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A lot of this is absolutley absurd and unnecessary.

 

Dont have time to comment on everything jacko said right now, but for starters, the last thing we need is Adam Dunn's injuries and Strike Outs. I'd rather try and come up with a solution from within (perhaps see if Duncan DOES end up getting his s*** together), or pull off a more sensible deal in the trade market, or resort to a reasonable, Teixeria-esque free agent signing.

 

..I also wouldnt be absolutely opposed to putting Damon there long term for the duration of his contract if we pick up an Ichiro or Andruw (just names you threw out in your other posts).

 

With Dunn's ability to get on base I'd be willing to overlook his other problems (unless he is consistently getting injured).

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Kennedy as a top-20 is pure comedy. He's pitched well, but he just doesn't have the tools to get rated that high. His scouting report is remarkably similar to Clippard. Not overpowering, good offspeed stuff, good control. He's even having similar rate results, of course he's two years older than Clippard was down there. Hell, he's only 2 months older than Clippard now. Imagine Clippard against the kids in the FSL. Only thing is, Clippard didn't even make BA's top-100 this year. Good luck with that one.

 

Tabata came in at 27 on the BA list, but that was before the first hint of some tarnish on the resume. I've read reports that he has to report to the park early to ride the bike in order to maintain his weight. One of the funnier things you hear like dogma from Yankee fans is the quote from a scout that said he reminded him of a young Manny Ramirez. Who, by the way, was putting up an 1100+ OPS as a 19 year old. Great scouting report. He's going to have to do something with that .064 IsoD in order to move up. My guess is he slips, and without power, he doesn't come close to Ellsbury in speed and fielding.

 

Chamberlin is only one there I see with some realistic ceiling. Of course, he's the same age Buchholz was last year in A-/A+, and Buchholz dominated but only came in at 51.

 

To top it all off, what's with all this below AA talk? Oh, that's right, the Yankees no longer have anyone at AA or higher worth paying attention to, so that caveat no longer matters.

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I'll say this, there is a reason why fans of other teams find Yankee fans to be annoying and obnoxious.

 

Yeah, exactly.

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Kennedy as a top-20 is pure comedy. He's pitched well, but he just doesn't have the tools to get rated that high. His scouting report is remarkably similar to Clippard. Not overpowering, good offspeed stuff, good control. He's even having similar rate results, of course he's two years older than Clippard was down there. Hell, he's only 2 months older than Clippard now. Imagine Clippard against the kids in the FSL. Only thing is, Clippard didn't even make BA's top-100 this year. Good luck with that one.

 

Tabata came in at 27 on the BA list, but that was before the first hint of some tarnish on the resume. I've read reports that he has to report to the park early to ride the bike in order to maintain his weight. One of the funnier things you hear like dogma from Yankee fans is the quote from a scout that said he reminded him of a young Manny Ramirez. Who, by the way, was putting up an 1100+ OPS as a 19 year old. Great scouting report. He's going to have to do something with that .064 IsoD in order to move up. My guess is he slips, and without power, he doesn't come close to Ellsbury in speed and fielding.

 

Chamberlin is only one there I see with some realistic ceiling. Of course, he's the same age Buchholz was last year in A-/A+, and Buchholz dominated but only came in at 51.

 

To top it all off, what's with all this below AA talk? Oh, that's right, the Yankees no longer have anyone at AA or higher worth paying attention to, so that caveat no longer matters.

 

Horne, Marquez, and Whelan are worth paying attention to. Hey, aside from the 2 B's the pitching in your system is barren.

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you're right ' date=' however the yanks will need to win at least at a .660 clip from here on out to make the playoffs , and i cant see that happening with the pitching staff you guys have[/quote'] Way too much of a big picture look for me. One game at a time is how you get things done. Clemens will help, Hughes will help, and Clippard looks like he'll hold the fort down in the meantime. Just win today, worry about tomorrow then.
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....{nonsense}.....
I'll take the 3 26 and under with the big club - from the sound of things Lester will be up right around the break - and the two B's over what you've got.
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by the way. Kennedy through 5.

 

5IP 6H 4ER 6K 0BB. 6K in 5 innings is solid and aside from the homer, he has been pretty solid. He is holding his own.

 

and I take that back. A nice start to his start (retired first 9 in a row), a horrible finish. Get em next time.

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by the way. Kennedy through 5.

 

5IP 6H 4ER 6K 0BB. 6K in 5 innings is solid and aside from the homer, he has been pretty solid. He is holding his own.

6IP 9H 6ER 6K 1BB --- solid indeed

 

And the pitching cupboard isn't barren. The full season debuts of Johnson, Bard, and Masterson haven't been good, but that's why it's the minors. Those are quality arms, and they have time to develop. Then there's Clay, a 1s from last year who hasn't debuted yet. The best of the rest are guys like Gabbard and Pauley, but I won't blow the smoke you do and try and call those guys legit prospects like you do with Horne and Wright.

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Horne is a legitimate prospect. Wright is more of a back end of the rotation guy, most likely in the NL, ie not.

 

The reason why you wont blow any smoke is because you dont have any smoke to blow. Gabbard is just like Wright. Pauley is just like Karstens. Aside from random 5th starter depth, I havent advocated either as long term solutions.

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Horne is a legitimate prospect. Wright is more of a back end of the rotation guy, most likely in the NL, ie not.

 

The reason why you wont blow any smoke is because you dont have any smoke to blow. Gabbard is just like Wright. Pauley is just like Karstens. Aside from random 5th starter depth, I havent advocated either as long term solutions.

Horne is the same age as Gabbard was last year in AA......and he's getting similar results. The only people talking about this guy think Derek Jeter has good range. In other words, just Yankee fans.

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Horne is the same age as Gabbard was last year in AA......and he's getting similar results. The only people talking about this guy think Derek Jeter has good range. In other words' date=' just Yankee fans.[/quote']

 

people will talk about him this offseason. He has power stuff. Just like all the ratings systems like. And he is dominating AA. How many other criteria do you want to make up to try and discredit me? He'll be in the top 100 this offseason and will likely be a Bronx option in 2008.

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