Joe Torre's shit thread

[jacksonianmarch]

April 13th NYY @ OAK

 

Lets Minkey hit with the sacks packed in the 6th and 8th only to have him choke both times.

 

Torre brings in Farns with a small lead and he blows it.

 

I hope torre leaves this team, he absolutely sucks.

[Thumper]

Wasn't he suppose to get the can after last season?

[Optimist]

Yeah, watching some of his actions early this season I really doubt the Yankees offer him an extension. But who knows...it's still early.

[jacksonianmarch]

Joe Torre sucks. Absolutely BLOWS! Very annoyed. VERY f***ING ANNOYED.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

This might have been the worst managed game ever by Torre.

[schillingouttheks]

I bet you guys are really, really pissed right now.

 

The good thing is that I don't expect to see Gom on the board tonight :thumbsup:

[Mr Crunchy]

torre

has anyone done less with more??

dean smith and roy williams come to mind but they dont have as big of a payroll

close

but not that big

[jacksonianmarch]

This might have been the worst managed game ever by Torre.

 

I agree. Proctor comes in in the 7th when he should be the setup man. Vizcaino comes in one game after he showed he had some trouble out there. Bruney, the most dominant guy out there doesnt see the light. Mo comes in already in trouble after not pitching since he blew his last save. I mean, wtf? Then to pinch run for Giambi with a 4 run lead in Fenway when you know it could come down to him in the 9th or extras or whatever and then to leave Thompson up with Phelps on deck? Are you serious?

 

i advocated bringing in Mo when he did, but the situation was avoidable.

[jacksonianmarch]

torre

has anyone done less with more??

dean smith and roy williams come to mind but they dont have as big of a payroll

close

but not that big

 

No, absolutely not. I hope we can his ass before he takes us down with him. I have been trying to get his ass fired for 3 f***ing yrs now.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I agree. Proctor comes in in the 7th when he should be the setup man. Vizcaino comes in one game after he showed he had some trouble out there. Bruney, the most dominant guy out there doesnt see the light. Mo comes in already in trouble after not pitching since he blew his last save. I mean, wtf? Then to pinch run for Giambi with a 4 run lead in Fenway when you know it could come down to him in the 9th or extras or whatever and then to leave Thompson up with Phelps on deck? Are you serious?

 

i advocated bringing in Mo when he did, but the situation was avoidable.

 

He does the Giambi thing all the time and it drives me f***ing crazy. How many times this year does he pinch run for Giambi and it bites us in the ass later. At this point believe it or not but Bruney might be our best pitcher out of the pen. Why the f*** is he not in the 7th or the 8th inning? If you use Bruney in the 7th then you can use Proctor in the 8th(or vise versa).

 

I thought bring Mo in the 8th was a mistake. Right now Rivera isnt right. He cant locate at all. I think asking Rivera to get 5 outs right now is asking too much. I love how Torre said in spring training he would only use Rivera for 3 outs. All of a sudden hes pitching in the 8th. f***ing idiot!

[schillingouttheks]

You guys probably need to let Mo pitch in games where you're winning by 5+ runs in the ninth. I understand the concern of overworking him, but underproduction is a cause for concern as well. And with the lineup that you guys have, he may not get the chance to have as many save opportunities as in the past.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

You guys probably need to let Mo pitch in games where you're winning by 5+ runs in the ninth. I understand the concern of overworking him' date=' but underproduction is a cause for concern as well. And with the lineup that you guys have, he may not get the chance to as many save opportunities in the past.[/quote']

 

I think Mo needs to pitch. But I dont think he should be put into that spot when hes still trying to work things out.

[jacksonianmarch]

Mo will get it right and still save 85-90% of his chances, but when you know he is a bit off, you dont throw him into the fire like that. It is april, Mo is NEVER dominant in april.

[a700hitter]

He does the Giambi thing all the time and it drives me f***ing crazy. How many times this year does he pinch run for Giambi and it bites us in the ass later. At this point believe it or not but Bruney might be our best pitcher out of the pen. Why the f*** is he not in the 7th or the 8th inning? If you use Bruney in the 7th then you can use Proctor in the 8th(or vise versa).

 

I thought bring Mo in the 8th was a mistake. Right now Rivera isnt right. He cant locate at all. I think asking Rivera to get 5 outs right now is asking too much. I love how Torre said in spring training he would only use Rivera for 3 outs. All of a sudden hes pitching in the 8th. f***ing idiot!

Jimy the Idiot Williams used to do that all the time. I remember one time when he took out the cleanup hitter in the 7th in Seattle. The game went 14 or 15 innings and Manny had Darren Lewis batting behind him. The Mariners walked Manny 4 consecutive times and Lewis left men all over the bases.

[jacksonianmarch]

God I hate torre.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

God I hate torre.

Torre has been pretty awful since the 2003 world series. Hopefully this is his last year cause hes f***ing brutal.

 

 

EDIT: I take back what I said. Torre has NEVER been a good in game manager however the late 90 teams were so good they could over come him.

[schillingouttheks]

Joe Girardi anyone?

 

Is he doing anything this year with any teams anyway?

[jacksonianmarch]

Joe Girardi anyone?

 

Is he doing anything this year with any teams anyway?

 

no kidding.

[example1]

Mariano Rivera blows the game tonight and its Torre's fault? I'm pretty sure I read Jacksonian praising bringing in Mariano when it happened... even if it was a little late it was still your closer that blew the game. Yes, your golden boy blew the game. :harhar:

[jacksonianmarch]

Mariano Rivera blows the game tonight and its Torre's fault? I'm pretty sure I read Jacksonian praising bringing in Mariano when it happened... even if it was a little late it was still your closer that blew the game. Yes' date=' your golden boy blew the game. :harhar:[/quote']

 

and I can deal with that. But the way it led up to that. Bringing in your lefty specialist to face Papi with a 4 run lead and nobody on. That essentially tells Myers to throw strikes first, just dont walk him and you negate his usefulness. Vizcaino, while he has been okay to this point, is a guy who walks too many. I dont like him facing Manny. And Mo in the 8th. Yeah, I forgot we have the april version of Mo. The less reliable guy who eventually turns it on and is ridiculous. But until then.

 

The three things that burn me the most is the defense played on Crisp, pinch running for Giambi for nearly no reason, and then not having Phelps hit for Thompson.

 

When Crisp was at the plate, a single is tolerable, a double ties the game. Therefore, you should be playing no doubles defense. There is no way Minky should have been that far off the line.

[Optimist]

If he asks for an extension, I hope Steinbrenner makes him go take a long ride with Steve Swindel.

 

Could someone tell this guy that Vizciano does not literally have a rubber arm? He gave up 4 runs on Thursday, maybe that's a sign that he should get a day or two off. Honestly, yesterday's game was probably one of the worst managing jobs I have ever seen in all my years of watching baseball.

 

I wouldn't be shocked, given his work in April, to see Joe not even get to finish the year.

[a700hitter]

Torre always panicked and went for the win, whether in April or September. He could never resist going to his horses no matter how many days they worked in a row. The difference now is that he has no horses. Mo is not the Secretariat of closers any more, but he's still a horse. He's the only horse out there, and Torre will break him like he has broken all of his other horses in recent years.

[yankees228]

My biggest problem is that he didn't let Mo pitch during the week to give him work when he's clearly rusty. Some of the blame also had to fall on Guidry.

[yankees228]

If he asks for an extension, I hope Steinbrenner makes him go take a long ride with Steve Swindel.

 

Could someone tell this guy that Vizciano does not literally have a rubber arm? He gave up 4 runs on Thursday, maybe that's a sign that he should get a day or two off. Honestly, yesterday's game was probably one of the worst managing jobs I have ever seen in all my years of watching baseball.

 

I wouldn't be shocked, given his work in April, to see Joe not even get to finish the year.

 

Vizcaino gave up four runs on Thursday because he pitched poorly not because he was overworked. He last pitched on Saturday. If he can't pitch back to back days, whether he gave up four runs the day before or not, it's a problem.

 

EDIT: I'm not a fan of Joe either but not everything can fall on him. There has to be a point where you look at player's performance as well.

[jacksonianmarch]

Torre always panicked and went for the win' date=' whether in April or September. He could never resist going to his horses no matter how many days they worked in a row. The difference now is that he has no horses. Mo is not the Secretariat of closers any more, but he's still a horse. He's the only horse out there, and Torre will break him like he has broken all of his other horses in recent years.[/quote']

 

the horses are hosing off after running the Derby 6 times in 3 weeks. We have a pen that should be very good. But when the starters are going less than 5IP on average (or right around there) then you will burn them quick. Wang and Moose cannot return fast enough.

[Optimist]

3 inning from Wright last night = Unacceptable

 

I don't care if the Sox had batted around, with each and every one of them hitting a home run, you must get at least one or two more innings out of him. The Yankees should not be concerned with Chase Wright's confidence, which Torre used as his excuse, but the state of the bullpen. Honestly, has Torre been watching the games so far? If he was, he'd know that.

 

He has got to go. Sooner rather than later.

[Mr Crunchy]

im of the mindset that torre has improved over the years

he had the best rotation in baseball year after year and the best middle defense year after year then the felon had to go and f*** around with the roster and blam

 

0-century

its no surprise that youre 2 under 500 when your starters avg 4ip per and your bullpen is 0-6 in save opps

convert those save opps to wins and then youre in 1st

cant blame torre for the aging rivera,the gash that is mussina,the yeast infection that is pavano and the fact that cashman spent on igawa rather than dice k

 

my god is vizcaiano a fraud or what??

proctor never impressed

mrs farnsworth is on the shelf and myers had 2 good months in boston but essentially is a 1 out man..

 

torre??

isnt it awful watching him stuff his pinky up in his nose up to the knuckle??

 

hi def tv does have its problems