Torri Hunter may patrol CF for Boston in 2008

[MANNYHOF24]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2007/03/18/talented_trio_on_center_stage/

 

I wouldn't mind seeing this at all. The only question I would have then is where would Jacoby play, maybe left field?

[TGov]

I wouldn't mind Hunter either, but how about A. Jones?

He could replace Manny if we don't resign him, which I doubt we would...

[ORS]

If they get any one of the three, you can bet your bottom dollar your namesake is out the door via trade.

[ORS]

I wouldn't mind Hunter either, but how about A. Jones?

He could replace Manny if we don't resign him, which I doubt we would...

Manny is under contract next year.

[castigs850]

i read the article in the globe this morning, kinda interesting how much hunter seems to want to be here, i dont think jones is a real option because he seems like he wants nothing but to stay with the braves and why would they pass him up, ichiro is an option cause he seems to want out of seattle, but like you said where would jacoby go?

[TheKilo]

Why?

[EvilDonut]

Do we really need him? But i guess id rather have Hunter over Jones. I think Jones is extremely overrated.

[Beckett95]

rather see ellsbury in CF next year

[a700hitter]

rather see ellsbury in CF next year

Rather than Andruw Jones? Why?

[ORS]

Do we really need him? But i guess id rather have Hunter over Jones. I think Jones is extremely overrated.

I don't see it. Jones is just slightly inferior to Hunter in the field, but vastly superior at the plate. By FRAA Hunter was 4 runs better, although by THT ZR, Jones was marginally better. Overall, they are about the same defensively, IMO, but Jones is about 20 runs better offensively. If there is any overrating going on, it is you doing it with Hunter.

[TheKilo]

Andruw Jones > Torii Hunter

 

I'd love for them to make a run at A. Jones

[castigs850]

Do we really need him? But i guess id rather have Hunter over Jones. I think Jones is extremely overrated.

 

9 straight gold golves, 51 and 41 in homers the past two years and consistantly around 30 for 7 years before that, what is he overrated at?

[a700hitter]

I don't see it. Jones is just slightly inferior to Hunter in the field' date=' but vastly superior at the plate. By FRAA Hunter was 4 runs better, although by THT ZR, Jones was marginally better. Overall, they are about the same defensively, IMO, but Jones is about 20 runs better offensively. If there is any overrating going on, it is you doing it with Hunter.[/quote']i agree with you about the offense, but from what I have seen, I think Jones also has the more than a slight edge defensively.

[TheKilo]

It's a wash defensively IMO, but Andruw is the clearly better offensive player.

[ORS]

i agree with you about the offense' date=' but from what I have seen, I think Jones also has the more than a slight edge defensively.[/quote']

A couple of years ago I might have agreed with you, but I think Hunter has aged a little better. Right now, I'd call the difference minimal either way.

[riverside sluggers]

i read the article in the globe this morning' date=' kinda interesting how much hunter seems to want to be here, i dont think jones is a real option because he seems like he wants nothing but to stay with the braves and why would they pass him up, ichiro is an option cause he seems to want out of seattle, [b']but like you said where would jacoby go?[/b]

 

off to another team

[Beckett95]

Rather than Andruw Jones? Why?

 

dont think we need to spend more money on OF's. Unless we trade Manny, theres no need for Jones. And if we do trade Manny, id much rather go after Jones than Hunter. Hunter doesnt really impress me that much except with his defense. Think he'd be a waste of money

[jacksonianmarch]

Jones is getting bulkier as he ages, Hunter isnt. I think Jones moves to RF soon.

[example1]

Okay, this discussion is getting pretty scattered and it is hard to remark on everything people have said so far...

 

One thing I've always liked about Tori Hunter is how realistic he is about his abilities and what he adds to a team: "I'm going to make a difference on defense. I'm going to make a difference on the bases. And every once in a while, you'd better not make a mistake at the plate."

 

Andruw Jones could say I make a difference in the field AND at the plate. Objectively, this is a no brainer.

 

Torii Hunter has some interesting statistics. Tremendous looking year last year: 31 HR, 98 RBI. Career high .337 ON BASE PERCENTAGE in a season, that's a lower-high than Alfonso Soriano, who has more power and speed and who is notorious for not getting on base. So I don't initially see him as a great fit on the red sox just based on philosophy.

 

Next comes the role of Jacoby Ellsbury and how acquiring a player like Jones, Hunter or Ichiro would effect Ellsbury's role with the Sox. I think ORS is right in that Manny would move. I imagine Crisp would move too, but in losing Ellsbury they would be losing a guy who could be as good as Torii Hunter but who is younger and cheaper.

 

That said, I like nearly everything about Torii Hunter. He seems to be a real class act and I always loved how he played the game. I don't exactly feel the same way about Andruw Jones, although he is largely pretty quiet and appears to be less of a bonehead than he was at 19 (go figure) when we were all introduced to him. He has quietly matured into a very, very good player (he has Sheffield power with Hunter defense). Ichiro, I think, would be a good defensive patch at CF--a position I especially don't like patching. You don't put a 2B at SS, you don't put a 1B at C and you should think twice before making a RF a CF. We all know Ichiro has tremendous speed and a great arm, but having watched him a little bit playing for Seattle I don't think he particularly likes playing CF... certainly not the same way that Jones and Hunter do. I thought his stated preference was RF..??

 

If the Sox were to get Ichiro I would put him in RF where his speed and arm could make him the most well-suited body/player to play RF that Fenway has ever seen. Amazing speed with Dewey's arm. I would trade Manny (even at a loss of $ for one season) and move Drew to LF. I would platoon Crisp and Ellsbury in CF for one season ('08) after which I think Ellsbury would have won the positon hands-down. Crisp will move on. Pena should be dealt after this season or converted to 1B if his power develops like it should. All of this is assuming we get Ichiro.

 

I don't see another position for Mr. Jacoby Ellsbury. I think it is CF or bust. He lacks the power to justify moving his defense to a corner, and lacks the arm to play RF anyway. I suppose there is a chance that Ellsbury ends up a super-sub with the sox until he's 26 or 27 when he gets traded or something. That speed off the bench and ability to play defense adequately in all three positions would be useful.

[NateGrey]

.. Wouldn't shock me if we had Jones in our lineup before the trade deadline ..

[jacksonianmarch]

.. Wouldn't shock me if we had Jones in our lineup before the trade deadline ..

 

If Andruw is traded, you better believe something serious is going back. I know the Braves were rumored to want Lester, Hansen, and Coco last yr. I would assume that Lester's cancer, Coco's s***** play and Hansen's implosion would mean more than that would have to go back. I dont think Andruw gets moved since I think the Braves will be in the running for the WC.

[Mr Crunchy]

we're discussing a jones and tori hunter and the issue at hand is where would jacoby go??

how about pawtucket??

how about.....whats the difference??

[SuperManny]

If Andruw is traded' date=' you better believe something serious is going back. I know the Braves were rumored to want Lester, Hansen, and Coco last yr. I would assume that Lester's cancer, Coco's s***** play and Hansen's implosion would mean more than that would have to go back. I dont think Andruw gets moved since I think the Braves will be in the running for the WC.[/quote']

 

Jones is gone at the end of the year. He already said he wants a big contract and is letting Boras do the negotations this time around. They might move him at the deadline instead of letting him walk but I would rather the Sox go after him as a FA anyways. It does the Sox no good to trade for him unless a contract extension is part of the trade. I also think Jones is a better fit for LF than CF at this point. Next year they should let Ellsbury play CF, and if they want Jones then trade Manny and put Jones in LF.

 

Hunter would be a horrible fit here because of his anemic OBP and I'm not sure Jones is that great in CF anymore either.

[SuperManny]

we're discussing a jones and tori hunter and the issue at hand is where would jacoby go??

how about pawtucket??

how about.....whats the difference??

 

Well we're talking about next season and Ellsbury is going to be in AAA this season. If you sign either of them to a contract longer than 1 year then Ellsbury has no where to play unless you switch positions. Jones is the only one who can hit enough to even be considered a corner OFer. Jacoby is also going to make league min and probably play better defense. That leaves extra money to upgrade other positions like 3B, 1B, or go after a future C for when Tek is gone.

[adam123]

ok people ..jones ..hunter ... man if we get any chance at ichiro you go get him he is the best hitter in american leauge hands down ..you put him on our line up GAME OVER ..

You want protection for manny and papi well there u go . I understand jone hes great but man how much more hefty is he gonna get .. torii ya he would be awsome reunite with big papi .. rather see that than jones

[castigs850]

bat ichiro 5th?

[CrespoBlows]

ok people ..jones ..hunter ... man if we get any chance at ichiro you go get him he is the best hitter in american leauge hands down ..you put him on our line up GAME OVER ..

You want protection for manny and papi well there u go . I understand jone hes great but man how much more hefty is he gonna get .. torii ya he would be awsome reunite with big papi .. rather see that than jones

 

:wtf:

[TheKilo]

Yeah, Ichiro is NOT the best hitter in the American League.

[adam123]

Well average wise he is if i need a hit i am going with Ichiro .He wont bat 5th but he would be a asset to the team

[TheKilo]

Well average wise he is if i need a hit i am going with Ichiro .He wont bat 5th but he would be a asset to the team

 

Oh goody average wise.

 

I'll take a guy that can get on base consistently. See Ramirez, Manny or Hafner, Travis.