Yankees nearing deal for Mike Gonzalez?

[jacksonianmarch]

http://mvn.com/mlb-yankees/

 

Have never used this source before, but why not. They say it isnt official yet, but is nearing completion. Sounds like Melky and a B level prospect. Nothing we didnt already know aside from the fact that it seems to be getting closer to happening.

[Optimist]

I don't like this trade. I'd hate seeing Melky leave NY....especially for a bullpen arm.

[Cocos Disciples]

Their link is an article from yesterday. Not credible.

[TheKilo]

Why can't you post in the Gonzalez thread?

[jacksonianmarch]

cause this has passed one time rumor level and I figured I'd put it where it belongs, in the Yankee thread. Hope I am not annoying anyone.

[Cocos Disciples]

Has passed one time rumor level? It's an uncredible blog post with a link to something that we've already seen.

[TheKilo]

cause this has passed one time rumor level and I figured I'd put it where it belongs' date=' in the Yankee thread. Hope I am not annoying anyone.[/quote']

 

 

There's another Gonzalez thread in this subforum though.

 

http://www.talksox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7989

[Rdsxmbnt]

theres plenty of bandwith

[example1]

I don't like this trade. I'd hate seeing Melky leave NY....especially for a bullpen arm.

 

I've got to agree with this assessment. Melky has certainly earned his spot on the team and it would be a shame to get traded for a reliever. I think Melky is a very good player and I wish the sox got him. He's solid.

[jacksonianmarch]

from today's herald.

 

Losing out to the Bucs

 

Last week, general manager Theo Epstein said the club had extended an invitation to spring training to veteran Japanese pitcher Masumi Kuwata. The right-handed reliever, however, chose to sign with the Pirates instead, a decision based partly on what he said was his lifelong affinity with Roberto Clemente.

 

It is also believed that Kuwata, 38, felt he had a better chance of pitching in the majors with the Pirates. Pittsburgh is expected to have at least one opening in their bullpen, once they decide where to trade 28-year-old Mike Gonzalez.

 

The Sox, New York Yankees and Atlanta are believed to be the most ardent pursuers of the lefty. The Sox have mentioned Coco Crisp and Eric Hinske, but the Bucs are believed to have their eye on either Braves first baseman Adam LaRoche or Yankees outfielder Melky Cabrera.

 

So Melky has more value than Crisp in the Pirates eyes? Wow.

[jacksonianmarch]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spyanks195021738dec19,0,6170841.story?coll=ny-sports-print

 

This article makes it seem like the Yankees are the ones who are holding up the deal.

 

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12192006/sports/yankees/yanks_ink_igawa_deal_yankees_george_king.htm

 

George King (the equivalent of Gordon Edes in NY) says that the Yankees-Pirates dialogue is essentially toast, but that the braves and pirates are trying to get something done, then the yankees and braves will talk once Gonzalez is acquired.

 

http://www.nj.com/yankees/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1166510438315490.xml&coll=1

 

and this one made it sound like the pirates and braves arent talking and the yankees are trying to find another team to help out. I wonder who is right?

[Cocos Disciples]

MLBTradeRumors says Gonzalez and McLouth for Cabrera and Ian Kennedy. That would be a very good deal for the Yankees IMO.

[Papelbon58]

In a way I hope it happens. I think Melky and Kennedy are extremely dangerous, and that trading Melky for a bullpen guy with no big game or American League experience is a mistake. McLouth is good I guess, but the Yankees have a solid core of pitchers they are developing in house. Trading Kennedy is a risk. I hope they do it. I do not really like Gonzales for the Sox anyway.

[jacksonianmarch]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

why the hell would they want Kennedy of all pitchers? He sounds like a Jeff Suppan lite and is the least likely of the yankees top 10 to make the majors. As a yankee fan, I would have to say that this deal would be in our favor. Then again, I think dealing away the last two first round picks in a span of 6 months should essentially motivate Cashman to make a wiser first selection (although I think his selcetions thereafter have been fabulous).

[jacksonianmarch]

I had thought Kennedy was a good pitcher when we drafted him as his scouting report said something about a low 90s heater and 3 plus offspeed pitches. Then when you get a few other scouting reports and then get to see him play on the boob tube (he was on YES at some point recently) then you see that his heater tops out at 88 and his only good off speed pitch is that changeup. They have a further advanced version of himself in AAA (clippard). This may be the one guy in the minors that I'd say do it. Although in the NL, Kennedy may have a shot to be a pretty good pitcher, but he is not an AL type dominant type pitcher.

[Papelbon58]

I think Melky>Gonzalez, and McLouth is not that much better than Kennedy, plus he is not raised in the Yanks system

 

I'm just saying. I do not care that much, because Gonzalez is not a big deal to me

[jacksonianmarch]

you know what, something is afoot here. Just checked Kennedy's stats. Have you seen what he is doing recently in the hawaiian league? In his last 20.1IP he has allowed 6ER and K'd 31 batters while walking only 3. Where did this stuff come from. When I last saw him he got pumped for 8ER in a little over an inning. I am going to waffle over this thing for awhile until it is either nixed or completed.

[Mr Crunchy]

kennedy was a hi fallutin draft pick and if im not mistaken it was tampa that had him 1st

his career can be described as a disappointment but hes still young enuff and he throws from the left side so its still very possible for him to have what amounts to be an effective career

[jacksonianmarch]

he is a righty Mr. C. He has been compared to Mike Mussina, but the Mussina of old threw 92-94 consistently. But this guy cannot break 90 without grunting.

[Mr Crunchy]

was he in oakland last year jack??

[Cocos Disciples]

Thinking of Joe Kennedy I believe.

[Papelbon58]

yeah, this is Ian Kennedy, he has never been to the majors before, Yankees drafted and raised

[Mr Crunchy]

my bad men

apologies

[jacksonianmarch]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12202006/sports/yankees/doug__i_dig_yanks_yankees_george_king.htm

 

George King is reporting that if the yankees dont give both Proctor and Melky, a deal wont happen. Good, f*** Pittsburgh, pull it off the table. That is WAY too much.

[Cocos Disciples]

http://buccoblog.mlblogs.com/my_weblog/2006/12/too_late_the_tr.html

 

All but done. Gonzalez is taking a physical.

[BSN07]

Well Jacko we will see what Ol Melky is made of now won't we.

[Cocos Disciples]

Personally, I like this deal for the Yankees. We saw that Kyle Farnsworth wasn't a great setup man last year. Gonzalez was good last year, but he did walk a load, and he did play in Pittsburgh. We'll have to see how he adjusts to the pressure.

 

Melky Cabrera is a good young player. I just don't think he's a future superstar. He wouldn't start this year, although since the Yankees outfield is injury prone, he would probably get significant action.

[ARod2212]

Yeah, I'll wait for something besides BuccoBlog.

[jacksonianmarch]

Personally, I like this deal for the Yankees. We saw that Kyle Farnsworth wasn't a great setup man last year. Gonzalez was good last year, but he did walk a load, and he did play in Pittsburgh. We'll have to see how he adjusts to the pressure.

 

Melky Cabrera is a good young player. I just don't think he's a future superstar. He wouldn't start this year, although since the Yankees outfield is injury prone, he would probably get significant action.

 

I made a point earlier about Melky not getting enough PT because the yankee outfield is actually anything but injury prone. Matsui played every single game of his career until he broke his wrist. Abreu has played over 150 games for something like 9 yrs in a row and Damon is continually over 135 games, so Melky would have had to squak out some time when one of those guys got a rest as the DH. I love Melky. I think the guy is gonna hit for a high average one day and be a very different style of corner OFer. At the same time, he wont see the field as a starter for 2 more yrs and the yankees in that time will likely have a better OFer to go after or bring up Tabata. The time is now to move him, unfortunately.

[a700hitter]

I made a point earlier about Melky not getting enough PT because the yankee outfield is actually anything but injury prone. Matsui played every single game of his career until he broke his wrist. Abreu has played over 150 games for something like 9 yrs in a row and Damon is continually over 135 games' date=' so Melky would have had to squak out some time when one of those guys got a rest as the DH. I love Melky. I think the guy is gonna hit for a high average one day and be a very different style of corner OFer. At the same time, he wont see the field as a starter for 2 more yrs and the yankees in that time will likely have a better OFer to go after or bring up Tabata. The time is now to move him, unfortunately.[/quote']Who will be the 4th OF in 2007...Bernie?