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Enjoy his 4.50+ ERA back in the AL and his 'tender' shoulder. I find it hilarious that they didn't resign him initially b/c of their worries about his elbow. But after he sat out the first year practically of his 3 year deal due to elbow problems and the problems in the first half last year, that they welcome him back.

 

Funny.

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Enjoy his 4.50+ ERA back in the AL and his 'tender' shoulder. I find it hilarious that they didn't resign him initially b/c of their worries about his elbow. But after he sat out the first year practically of his 3 year deal due to elbow problems and the problems in the first half last year, that they welcome him back.

 

Funny.

I guess his elbow has miraculously cured.
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Enjoy his 4.50+ ERA back in the AL and his 'tender' shoulder. I find it hilarious that they didn't resign him initially b/c of their worries about his elbow. But after he sat out the first year practically of his 3 year deal due to elbow problems and the problems in the first half last year, that they welcome him back.

 

Funny.

 

piss on the parade son. You know what Pettitte brings, and he will be bringing it for the full yr. As usual, I expect him to have a low 4's era with 15-20 wins in that lineup and that bullpen.

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the elbow has nothing structurally wrong with it. It was miraculously cured. It's called surgery and it was done 3 yrs ago.
Did he have ligament replacement done?
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I don't believe he had Tommy John, but he had some sort of repair done his first year in Houston. At the time it made the NYY look like geniuses for not signing him. Kinda like Pedro with us, we said his arm fall apart after 2-3 season thats why we wouldn't give the 4th year, no our FO looks smarter for not giving it to him. People try and say Minya did good with him and got what he wanted out of Pedro which is BS. 24-16 349.2 innings isn't worth what they payed for him.
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You guys may laugh, but if Pavano comes back and pitches decently, say with a 4.50 ERA, the Yankees have as deep a rotation as there is. Not bad...

 

The gap widens....

 

the only gap in this discussion is the one between pavanos legs that is indeed widening daily

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I don't believe he had Tommy John' date=' but he had some sort of repair done his first year in Houston. At the time it made the NYY look like geniuses for not signing him. Kinda like Pedro with us, we said his arm fall apart after 2-3 season thats why we wouldn't give the 4th year, no our FO looks smarter for not giving it to him. People try and say Minya did good with him and got what he wanted out of Pedro which is BS. 24-16 349.2 innings isn't worth what they payed for him.[/quote']It was such genius that they cost the 2005 team a chance at a repeat World Championship.
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You guys may laugh, but if Pavano comes back and pitches decently, say with a 4.50 ERA, the Yankees have as deep a rotation as there is. Not bad...

 

The gap widens....

 

the only gap in this discussion is the one between pavanos legs that is indeed widening daily

 

The Yankees sacrificed the sexy names for the ones who will give innings. I didnt know this stat until I saw it yesterday on yankees.com. The Yankees starters threw 934IP last season. Adding Igawa and Pettitte gave the yankees 2 guys with a track record of endurance. Add that to Wang, Mussina, and Johnson and you have 5 guys who can surpass 200IP. If Pavano can return to what he should be, then he could surpass 200IP if given a regular spot over Igawa. Durability was the issue the previous yrs. That shouldnt be the case this season.

 

And Mr. C, you are correct. Pavano's gaping gap needs a large metal bridge to cross.

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I don't believe he had Tommy John' date=' but he had some sort of repair done his first year in Houston. At the time it made the NYY look like geniuses for not signing him. Kinda like Pedro with us, we said his arm fall apart after 2-3 season thats why we wouldn't give the 4th year, no our FO looks smarter for not giving it to him. People try and say Minya did good with him and got what he wanted out of Pedro which is BS. 24-16 349.2 innings isn't worth what they payed for him.[/quote']

 

The Mets were a horrible franchise to that point with little going for it outside of the new prospects of David Wright and Jose Reyes. To them Pedro brought in a swager and a sense to other solid stars that it was okay to come to New York, like Carlos Beltran.

 

And why would Pettite have a low 4's ERA Jackson in the AL East when he could barely accomplish that in the pathetic NL Central?

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