Drew on board

[pudge]

No' date=' but there isn't even an argument on JD's side.[/quote']

That avatar of yours has got to go im getting sick.

[schillingouttheks]

how can u be a fan and not know the captains code name what a fake fan..

 

...he's not a Red Sox fan.

[seabeachfred]

That avatar of yours has got to go im getting sick.

 

You must remember Lugo comes from that Dodger Board where class is as absent as life is on Mars, but he has been cool on this board and we should let him indulge in his fantasy a little longer. Sooner or later he will get another avatar and be in good standing. He has been a very pleasant surprise around here and we have to understand that he is justifiably angry at what Drew did. He is, after all, a Dodger fan.

[Vinny]

the patriots did twice in 2001 and 2003.

OK let me rephrase that nobody can win without a running game. Antowain Smith and Kevin Faulk made a pretty good 1-2 punch.

[Beckett95]

Anyone know why Drew hasn't been officialy announced yet?

 

Maybe tommorow?

 

Wednesday--Lugo

Thursday--Matsuzaka

Friday--Drew

[jacksonianmarch]

Anyone know why Drew hasn't been officialy announced yet?

 

Maybe tommorow?

 

Wednesday--Lugo

Thursday--Matsuzaka

Friday--Drew

 

he ran out of douche.

[seabeachfred]

Ignorance is bliss.

 

Can't buy what they're saying Jackson. The facts are clear. Damon was clearly the superior ballplayer this past season. Coco stunk to high heaven. Yes, they say he was injured, but the fact was when he came back he actually hit ok for a short time and got hi average into the 290's in late June when he went into his dive, culminating is that disgusting 1 for 19 All Star Choke Up in the five game debacle against your team. If he rebounds we might call it money well spent, but Crisp must rebound. Right now I would take Damon over him any day of the week. Hopefully, I will eat my words after the 2007 season.

[riverside sluggers]

"fred" it seems to me that Coco's 2007 season will be playing for what type of player they can get in return next offseason. Jacoby Ellsbury is the future. Drafted as the 1st round in 2005, he is already entering Triple A this spring due to his rapid progress.

 

2005 Single-A Lowell (35 games)

44 Hits in 139 ABs (.317 avg) (.418 obp) (.432 slg) (.850 ops) 3 Doubles, 5 Triples, HR, 19 RBIs, 28 Runs, 24 Walks, 20 Ks, 23 out of 26 SBs

 

2006 Single-A Wilmington (61 games)

73 Hits in 244 ABs (.299 avg) (.379 obp) (.418 slg) (.797 ops) 7 Doubles, 5 Triples, 4 HRs, 32 RBIs, 35 Runs, 25 Walks, 28 Ks, 25 out of 34 SBs

 

2006 Double-A Portland (50 games)

61 Hits in 198 ABs (.308 avg) (.387 obp) (.434 slg) (.821 ops) 10 Doubles, 3 Triples, 3 HRs, 19 RBIs, 29 Runs, 24 Walks, 25 Ks, 16 out of 24 SBs

2006 Arizona Fall League (25 games)

29 Hits in 105 ABs (.276 avg) (.342 obp) (.371 slg) (.713 ops) 4 Doubles, 3 Triples, 3 RBIs, 18 Runs, 8 Walks, 16 Ks, 7 out of 10 SBs

[Mr Crunchy]

from what ive read stat wise about ellsbury he has all the power of....david eckstein

that said

those #s will improve as he climbs the ladder

i find it overly optimistic to have him in centerfield next year

 

coco will bounce back this year

its hard swinging a bat with a finger thats dislocated and needs surgery

what was unsettling about crisp was his glove work and more specifically how he broke on hard liners

i look for good things from him this year and i think the jake will be in pawtucket early in 07 then will be brought up when the rosters hit 40 for the run

 

of course seeing that our outfield missed a collective?? i dunno,seems like 300 f***ing games anyways last year??

the jake may indeed be patrolling centerfield before we know it

 

i do like the depth

[example1]

from what ive read stat wise about ellsbury he has all the power of....david eckstein

that said

those #s will improve as he climbs the ladder

i find it overly optimistic to have him in centerfield next year

 

coco will bounce back this year

its hard swinging a bat with a finger thats dislocated and needs surgery

what was unsettling about crisp was his glove work and more specifically how he broke on hard liners

i look for good things from him this year and i think the jake will be in pawtucket early in 07 then will be brought up when the rosters hit 40 for the run

 

of course seeing that our outfield missed a collective?? i dunno,seems like 300 f***ing games anyways last year??

the jake may indeed be patrolling centerfield before we know it

 

i do like the depth

 

He may have the power of david Ekstein, but he has the speed of Carl Crawford (or at least beltran). Eckstein's doubles will (and have) turn to triples with Jacoby.

[ORS]

from what ive read stat wise about ellsbury he has all the power of....david eckstein

that said

those #s will improve as he climbs the ladder

i find it overly optimistic to have him in centerfield next year

 

Dude ran a deer down in his backyard as a teenager. If he can keep getting on base and nabbing shoulda-been triples with his speed like he has in the minors, he can hit with the power of Pokey for all I care.

 

That said, he's got more pop than the little engine that could.

[riverside sluggers]

Am I really being overly optimistic that Jacoby will be up here next year?? His progress shows otherwise that he wont be staying for a long time down in Triple A. He is set to be a member of the Pawtucket Sox this spring, he'll be down there for close to 2 seasons? I cant comprehend with such a notion

[CrespoBlows]

He'll be the CF for the Red Sox on June 15th, when Coco Crisp is shipped out of here for a closer.

[Mr Crunchy]

y'all could be right

or

he could go 3-58 in rhode island and find himself shucking long neck clams in beales island maine by july 4th wondering why he cant catch up to the AAA fastballs.

 

we got crisp on the cheap and we got him for a while

coco wont be going anywhere if he performs like hes capable and should

if he dont?? then the jake gets a pop along with wily mo

however

the jake maybe a tasty treat along with one the young arms for a team looking for some speed and prospects in the pitching department

 

too early to tell

i do like the depth,especially in this injury prone outfield which figures to occupy the trainers room for long stretches at some point this summer

 

if im gambling

i say crisp is here playing full time this summer and the jake is in the weight room just north of providence trying to bench press his way into the big show

[jacksonianmarch]

What I find interesting is Jacoby's inability to be very successful stealing bases. From Wilmington on, he has been 48 of 68 in the SB dept. That will only get worse in the majors with the better catchers. He will have to improve on that before considering it a big time plus, cause those CS's are a big time negative too.

[ORS]

He's susceptible to pick-off moves. Getting better at that will come with time, but it's not due to a lack of speed.

[jacksonianmarch]

I know he is fast. I read the scouting report, he may be one of the fastest in the minors right now.

[Mr Crunchy]

anyone remember lachelle tarver??

how about michael""prime time"" coleman??

 

these men were cant miss centerfielders with blinding speed

in tarvers case i believe he went 22/23 steals in pawtucket

coleman,by all accounts was a 5 tool monster

 

i dont think they had 100abs combined in the majors

 

as far as the jake having issues with running

he will learn to read pitchers better as he gets older

he probably never had any teaching on the subject of base stealing as he relied on his wheels to get it done,pro ball is a different level of speed that this guy hasnt gotten accustomed to yet.

[seabeachfred]

"fred" it seems to me that Coco's 2007 season will be playing for what type of player they can get in return next offseason. Jacoby Ellsbury is the future. Drafted as the 1st round in 2005, he is already entering Triple A this spring due to his rapid progress.

 

2005 Single-A Lowell (35 games)

44 Hits in 139 ABs (.317 avg) (.418 obp) (.432 slg) (.850 ops) 3 Doubles, 5 Triples, HR, 19 RBIs, 28 Runs, 24 Walks, 20 Ks, 23 out of 26 SBs

 

2006 Single-A Wilmington (61 games)

73 Hits in 244 ABs (.299 avg) (.379 obp) (.418 slg) (.797 ops) 7 Doubles, 5 Triples, 4 HRs, 32 RBIs, 35 Runs, 25 Walks, 28 Ks, 25 out of 34 SBs

 

2006 Double-A Portland (50 games)

61 Hits in 198 ABs (.308 avg) (.387 obp) (.434 slg) (.821 ops) 10 Doubles, 3 Triples, 3 HRs, 19 RBIs, 29 Runs, 24 Walks, 25 Ks, 16 out of 24 SBs

2006 Arizona Fall League (25 games)

29 Hits in 105 ABs (.276 avg) (.342 obp) (.371 slg) (.713 ops) 4 Doubles, 3 Triples, 3 RBIs, 18 Runs, 8 Walks, 16 Ks, 7 out of 10 SBs

 

Riverside, you wasted a lot of your time posting those stats up for my benefit because I already knew them and you were only talking to the choir because I have been a big Jacoby Ellsbury fan since I saw him in the College World Series in 2005, but thanks anyway. Let's give JE a firm shot at AAA Ball this coming season, making sure he develops and works on all facets of his game. If he does really well, we can always bring him up, but I think for a year we can get along with what he have in the OF. That's my thinking on this anyway. :D :D :D

[seabeachfred]

Hey guys, Ellsbury has too much on the ball to be shucking oysters anywhere, but let's give the kid some freakin' time to further develop his skills. And Crespo, don't say June 15 for a closer. If we don't get one before that time he could be s*** out of luck by the middle of the season. The way I see it, and it is only a guess, we might have to put either Pena or Crisp on the block to get a decent one this winter. But as Crunch said, I do like our depth, not only in the OF but in the pitching department. We have the means to trade for a closer.

[Vinny]

You guys should keep both of them. I'd be surprised if Drew plays more than 100 games.

[Vinny]

Don't you have any pitchers with a fastball and a changeup that can be use in the closer role? No need to trade for a closer, they're inconsistent anyways.

[Cocos Disciples]

Uhh no we don't.

[Vinny]

Well that's not a very good farm system.

[Rdsxmbnt]

ur a noob

[jacksonianmarch]

in the sox defense (cringe) they do have a very good lower level of the minor leagues. Their upper levels have either been called up or raped in trades.

 

Now onto you Vin Scully. Is there any truth to the rumor that you take it from behind with unmitigated glee?

[Vinny]

You really only need 2/3 pitches and a strong mentality to be a closer. I'm sure you have one of those in your farm system. I wouldn't trade Coco or Willy Mo for a closer. Half the time you don't know what you're getting anyways. They can loose it just as fast as they found it.

[Vinny]

The rumor is false Jackson. I'm always the one giving it to people not the other way around. But of course you already know that. :wink:wink:

[seabeachfred]

in the sox defense (cringe) they do have a very good lower level of the minor leagues. Their upper levels have either been called up or raped in trades.

 

Now onto you Vin Scully. Is there any truth to the rumor that you take it from behind with unmitigated glee?

 

Jackson, you called it right again with the Red Sox minor league system. For the life of me I cannot understand how we have all these good young prospects everyone talks about and all of a sudden when they get to Triple A they're either s***** or traded away. That is one reason I am adamant about putting Pedroia at second and keeping him there. The guy has been successful at every level he has played at. We have Jacoby Ellsbury not too far behind in AAA this coming season, and Youk didn't do a bad job for us last year at all. To me the mark of a good team is to blend in the solid veterans with some young and talented ballplayers so as to keep the mixmaster going. I remember as a kid in New York the Brooklyn Dodgers were an outstanding baseball team for years but they got old at once and collapsed the first year they got to LA. BTW, don't bitch at the Red Sox getting Matsuzaka; you guys got Pettitte back and if any Red Sox tell you that is nothing to brag about, don't believe them. Andy is still a helluva good pitcher in my book.

[seabeachfred]

You guys should keep both of them. I'd be surprised if Drew plays more than 100 games.

 

Well shock yourself for a surprise Vinny. Drew played 146 games for your Dodgers last year and could have played more had Grady not worried about his health and sat him a few times when he could have and should have played. He had played just about every game in 2005 when he got hit with that pitch, something that could happen to anybody, and he played a full season for the Braves in 2004, hitting 305, 31, and 93. Drew will have good backup with Big Papi, Manny and some of our other hitters, something he did not have his first year in LA except for Kent, and last year when there was a t otal power outage and your team depended on singles and doubles to pile up wins.