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I saw this on ESPN.com, and thought with the way FA market is going, which one of these guys do you see getting moved and where? Do the Sox have a chance to acuire any of them? Give me your thoughts guys:dunno:

 

 

 

As soon as Carlos Lee signs -- with Baltimore, Houston or San Francisco, most likely -- the impact bats will be gone. That could pry some top offensive players loose, including Boston's Manny Ramirez, Toronto's Vernon Wells, Tampa Bay's Carl Crawford, Texas' Mark Teixeira, Atlanta's Andruw Jones, Philadelphia's Pat Burrell, Florida's Miguel Cabrera, Milwaukee's Geoff Jenkins and Colorado's Todd Helton.

 

There's more than sock available, too. As teams find out the asking prices for pitchers such as Barry Zito, Jason Schmidt, Danys Baez, Vicente Padilla and reel from the sticker shock on already-signed free agents such as Mike Stanton (two years, with a third-year option for a 39-year-old journeyman), Justin Speier ($18 million over four years), Jamie Walker ($12 million over three years), dealing for pitching suddenly seems sensible.

 

Thus, make your best offers for Freddy Garcia, Javier Vazquez, Jason Jennings, Aaron Heilman, Brad Lidge and perhaps Dontrelle Willis.

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lots of speculation. 3/4 of those guys wont even come close to moving. The only guys I see moving would be Wells in a late winter deal, Manny in an early december deal with Helton potentially being attached and Burrell in a dump. Jenkins is likely to be dumped too, but no team will want him at that price.
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Tell you the truth, I could see a deal involving the Red Sox and Blue Jays involving Manny and Wells as the centerpieces, as long as the Red Sox could sign Wells to an extension. Obviously, the details have to be worked out, I'm not saying Wells is as good as Manny, but Manny will bring back more next year when he gets traded in the last year of his contract, and the Red Sox get a decent bat right-handed, and great defense in the outfield.

 

It may have some juice, who knows?

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That would be the least likely trade, I mean seriously would the Red Sox trade Manny to a team they see what 19 games a season, yeah keep dreaming. Manny will only be moved if we get a power bat back and that is also not in our division. None of those teams would really work.
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Tell you the truth, I could see a deal involving the Red Sox and Blue Jays involving Manny and Wells as the centerpieces, as long as the Red Sox could sign Wells to an extension. Obviously, the details have to be worked out, I'm not saying Wells is as good as Manny, but Manny will bring back more next year when he gets traded in the last year of his contract, and the Red Sox get a decent bat right-handed, and great defense in the outfield.

 

It may have some juice, who knows?

I don't think there is a prayer of a chance of that happening.
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This one is just for fun, but what do you say to...

 

Texas get's, Manny, 1 of our starting Pitcher prospects, and maybe another pitcher or everday player prospect( since Texas is in need of young pitching)

 

BOS get's, Texira and young, or TEX and oshuka

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WONT HAPPEN. Please, stop throwing Teixeira and Young anywhere. The only way Tex moves is for an ace, not for an older version of himself in Manny. Both Tex and Young are worth more alone than Manny is at this point.
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Fair enough, was just throwing that one out for debate. If Manny is not worth that much now, as far as getting young ML ready talent back then I say don't move him at all. If it's not goona fill in a couple of the holes in the line up or help with the pitching issues we have then just keep him and let him be Manny. People seemed to be surprised by how he acts. He's been doing it ever since he got to BOS. He's not going to change, everyone after last season expected him to come back and be the perfect citizen, he was for awhile but eventually you have to expect him to be Manny being Manny at some point during the year.
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Anyone see anyway that the Sox swing a deal for Carl Crawford? He could play either CF or RF and could lead off. Unless they got Lugo and he could hit 2nd. I know it's a stretch, but he is said to be available so I thought I put it out there for debate. Of course I would assume it would have to be a 3 team deal because TB is a pain in the ass to deal with, and i'm sure they wouldn't just out right send a perenial all star to a division rival.
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Anyone see anyway that the Sox swing a deal for Carl Crawford? He could play either CF or RF and could lead off. Unless they got Lugo and he could hit 2nd. I know it's a stretch' date=' but he is said to be available so I thought I put it out there for debate. Of course I would assume it would have to be a 3 team deal because TB is a pain in the ass to deal with, and i'm sure they wouldn't just out right send a perenial all star to a division rival.[/quote']

 

Nope. The DRays are looking for young MLB ready pitching. That is why CWS is a likely destination with the white sox potentially sending Brandon McCarthy over. The sox dont have young MLB ready pitching this season. Lester would be their biggest chip, but he needs to get better before anyone would ask for his name.

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Man if CHW get Crawford for just Mcarthy i'll puke. And Kenny Williams should be arrested for fraud. That deal would have to involve more the Mcarthy. It would be one of the biggest lopsided trades ever. Mcarthy has looked decent but not good enough to get a 25 year old 5 tool All Star straight up. If thats all it takes then if you where the sox FO you would have to consider atleast throwing your hat in the ring for him. I mean ya we might not have enough thats ready right now but we could get creative. Mcarthy for Crawford would be the steal of the century.
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What about we send Manny to CHW, they send mcarthy to TB, then TB sends Crawford to us. I'm on then fence about Manny. But that wouldn't be a half bad trade. Yes I know it's a pipedream and don't have to be reminded, it's just a conversational idea.
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What about we send Manny to CHW' date=' they send mcarthy to TB, then TB sends Crawford to us. I'm on then fence about Manny. But that wouldn't be a half bad trade. Yes I know it's a pipedream and don't have to be reminded, it's just a conversational idea.[/quote']

 

The white sox do not need Manny. They have plenty of ploddingly slow power players in Dye, Crede, Thome, and Konerko. They need a speedster who is also good. Podsednik was the catalyst for that team when they wont it all and Ozzie likes to have options out there. Pods was pathetic this past season and it hurt the team. Ozzie wants a guy lwho has Pods speed but can actually hit the ball and reach base, and that is Crawford. Getting Manny would only slow them down further.

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