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No one player is bigger than the team. I want to see what this team is like with a healthy Doug Gabriel and Chad Jackson. Good for the Pats for sticking to their guns for a first round pick. Branch is not worth Reggie Wayne money and that is that.
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No one player is bigger than the team. I want to see what this team is like with a healthy Doug Gabriel and Chad Jackson. Good for the Pats for sticking to their guns for a first round pick. Branch is not worth Reggie Wayne money and that is that.

 

Branch isnt worth Wayne money... but either is Reggie Wayne himself. However if you put Branch in the Colts system, branch would be one of the best statstical WR in the game. With out Deion, Brady is going to struggle like yesterday.

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Branch isnt worth Wayne money... but either is Reggie Wayne himself. However if you put Branch in the Colts system' date=' branch would be one of the best statstical WR in the game. With out Deion, Brady is going to struggle like yesterday.[/quote']

 

You do realize that Brady lead this team to a Super Bowl win in 2001 with Fred Coleman and other scrubs as his receivers. Granted Troy Brown was there but they can still win without Branch.

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deion branch is better than reggie wayne

we let givens go

we let the other guy go to dc last season

deion is 1 of the top 10 wideouts in football and a big game player

good luck tom

im sure hes as f***ing thrilled as the rest of us who dont polish the front office knobs

 

are jon jon bob and myra donating the 13M under the cap back to the season tix holders??

are they gonna stop the $7.50 additional ""handling fee"" per tix they charge 69,000 season tix holders 10xs a year??

outrageous

now they can scour practice squads,bar rooms and prisons to find brady someone to throw to.....reche caldwell and troy brown??

are you s***ing me??

13M under the cap and this is what they come up with??

good

good job boys

did theo epstein and jon jon kraft go to the same kibbutz??

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No one player is bigger than the team. I want to see what this team is like with a healthy Doug Gabriel and Chad Jackson. Good for the Pats for sticking to their guns for a first round pick. Branch is not worth Reggie Wayne money and that is that.

 

 

Thats the key term when Doug Gabriel & Chad Jackson are healthy. Ben Watson should become the top receiver this season for Brady.

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Hopefully Seattle does bad this year so the pick will be higher.

 

Well, if history holds true and it carries over to this season (which is unlikely with the experience and talent that the Seahawks have), no Superbowl losers have put up a .500 season the year after. It's true for the 2001 Giants, 2002 Rams, 2003 Raiders, 2004 Panthers, and 2005 Eagles.

 

This could be true for the 2006 Seahawks. The last team to put up a .500 season or better after losing the year before was the 2000 Tennessee Titans after losing to the Rams in the superbowl and putting up a 13-3 record the following season.

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am i the only one who isn't extremely disappointed? brown, jackson, caldwell, watson, and graham are, while not like branch, but are 100% completely capable. and if our running game can hold up like it did vs. buffalo we won't really need to depend on the passing game like we did last year.

 

all i can say is hopefully we get a WR with that pick.

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You forgot Gabriel. If he was able to receive 500+ yards last year behind Porter and Moss with KERRY COLLINS throwing to him, I'm not too concerned.

 

We have 2 first rounders next offseason. I would love a linebacker and a wide receiver.

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ya hopefully

they cant f*** signing the draft pix up because their salaries are pretty much slotted in cement

 

hey

they got peter gabriel and chad jackson and future all pro kelvin knight waiting on the practice squad

we're all set

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i'd say seattle's FO got a little desperate or antsy after watching that game yesterday. While we cannot really say we are content, I think people make too big a deal out of Deion Branch, it does not decimate this unit. Watson will be the breakout player of the year
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watson is a tremendous athlete who will have big #s but without a deep threat the safetys play closer to the line and the zones get smaller as do the seams

the linebackers can play run run run and the corners can handle who ever we have on the outside 1-1

branch needed to be doubled

troy brown doesnt

bradys field just got shorter

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ya

wha

he is

dont be dazzled by the shiny things in life

look at the bottom line and who you'd want to throw to on 3rd and 8

put marvin harrison on the opposite side of deion branch and see where he ends up as far as #s go

hes played in a fairly conservative offense his entire career in foxboro

hes had corey dillon running the ball,3 tight ends who can all catch and make plays and hes had to compete with givens brown johnson and faulk for time

 

hes gonna get big money in seattle and hes going to fluorish there as a top 10 nfl reciever

in fact

if im not mistaken his agent said he'd show here and resign for next season if the pats didnt slap the franchise tag on him which wouldve guaranteed him top 5 money

the pats refused

he walked

and now??

we have scouts in montreal following the alouettes and the eskimo's looking for someone on the outside to compliment our inside tight end threats

lots of talent in the CFL...

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No one player is bigger than the team. I want to see what this team is like with a healthy Doug Gabriel and Chad Jackson. Good for the Pats for sticking to their guns for a first round pick. Branch is not worth Reggie Wayne money and that is that.

 

If you seriously think you can win a SB with troy brown as your top receiver, a mediocre second WR in Caldwell, a backup in Gabriel, and an unproven rookie in chad jackson, well then all I can say is good f***ing luck.

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If you seriously think you can win a SB with troy brown as your top receiver' date=' a mediocre second WR in Caldwell, a backup in Gabriel, and an unproven rookie in chad jackson, well then all I can say is good f***ing luck.[/quote']

 

Want me to display the 2001 Pats receiving corp that helped win it all and start a dynasty?

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They didnt have flashy top-notch receivers in 01 I can recall.

 

Yeaaah in the divsion they are in (Miami might be behind them, but Daunte cant handle big games), easy schedule, future HOF QB in Brady, a better running game than last year's, better defense than last year's with return of Rodney Harrison, and future HOF coach Belichick... they will not make the playoffs

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If you seriously think you can win a SB with troy brown as your top receiver' date=' a mediocre second WR in Caldwell, a backup in Gabriel, and an unproven rookie in chad jackson, well then all I can say is good f***ing luck.[/quote']

 

Yes and when the end of the season comes and you see the New England Patriots in 1st place you will be the one eating crow.

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agreed

the pats won in 01 with the worst receiving corps in history since the 72 fins

but even that team had paul warfield marlin briscoe and ....ya

howard twilley

 

that being said

brady threw for 112 yards in that game and won the mvp??

 

our dbax and special teams were infinitely better then than now

anyone care to argue this point?

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agreed

the pats won in 01 with the worst receiving corps in history since the 72 fins

but even that team had paul warfield marlin briscoe and ....ya

howard twilley

 

that being said

brady threw for 112 yards in that game and won the mvp??

 

our dbax and special teams were infinitely better then than now

anyone care to argue this point?

 

They were good but Ellis Hobbs easily shutdown the Bills top receiver in Lee Evans who is a pretty good receiver who is getting better all the time.

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you want to compare hobbs with vintage ty law??

or this linebacking crew with willie a healthy brewski,tj etc...

 

i think our dline is better

i think our obacks are better

brady is definetly bette

and i for 1 will never ever call bellichek out

hes done more with less than anyone ever

 

i just dont like the move my man

it was over a cheesedick amount of money in the grand scheme of things and this time we werent prepared i feel

 

what about the kicker??

i loved what our guy did yesterday

however

put him in foxboro in january with a 20mph wind and a raging blizzard in his face and we may never have seen the dynasty get off the ground.

 

good day men

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Your secondary is not nearly as good as it used to be. You shut down Lee Evans, but he's a 48 catch guy so far in his career, with JP Losman tossing him the ball and nobody to protect Losman. He'll be a great player, but he's not there yet. The LB's aren't nearly as good as they used to be. Seau isn't even a shell of his former self at this point in his career -- that was a desperation signing.

 

The offense is one-dimensional without Branch. How confident do you feel about your passing games chances against the Broncos defense in week 3?

 

As for the Seahawks, a first round pick for a man who hasn't even had 1,000 recieving yards or 5 TD's? Bad trade.

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