Should the David Pauley experiment be over

[stcjones]

Or placed on hold now or what....this guy has shown flashes of brilliance, but is overall not ready for prime time IMHO......He throws a very LOW ball which at this point is going to be called a ball more than a strike by most umps and has gotten shelled today......so what do we do with our gap in this spot? Pauley obviously ain't going to get it done. Not trying to flame the guy....just seems to be the way it is.........what do you all think?

[NomahsHammSammich]

he is not ready..2 absolutely dreadful performances and 1 good one = back to AA or AAA.

[CrespoBlows]

Clement and Wells are both on the horizon of coming back. Clement will go Wednesday (is that a good thing?) and Wells is about 10-14 days away.

 

So Pauley, maybe gets one more start?

[Beckett95]

this was probably Pauleys last start for a while as Clements back Wednesday and Lester's probably going to be in the 5th spot in the roatation.

[ksushi]

Pauley is not a bad pitcher, he certainly doesn't deserve AA. Complaining about a sinker baller keeping the ball too low is a pretty awful point to try to make and I don't think thats his trouble. He has good stuff, he just hasn't been in a league yet where hitters make serious adjustments to the way he pitches. AAA will hopefully be where he can call home for the next year or so to let him hone his craft, but David Pauley is 22 and he is a good pitcher. He'll be heard from again. He showed some composure to come back and pitch 3 solid innings after getting hit around. I was impressed with that. Pawtucket will help refine his game a little bit and maybe he will be getting that nasty breaker over for strikes more often. If he could do that, hes got four plus pitches he can work hitters with.

[BoSox21]

it was a lot to ask of a guy, to go right from AA to the majors. I love his potential, let him get his stuff together in the minors for another year or two.

[Beckett95]

IMO, he needs to spend the rest of the year in AAA, and he can be called up if someone in the rotation gets injured or for an emergency start or something.

[monstah27]

Good idea, we asked a lot of him and he did come up big when it counted (pitched great in Yankee Stadium)

[ksushi]

It was asking a ton, and he has surpassed any previous expectations by even making it past the 5th inning in each of his three starts. The guy showed guts and he doesn't deserve some of the ripping he has got after toronto and a little bit by some today. AAA is probably exactly what the doctor ordered and then hopefully we will see you in 07, Pauley.

 

He's already sort of a yankee killer. Sort of...

[Beckett95]

It looks like it is as Tito just announced Pauleys going to AAA when Timlin is activated

[NateGrey]

IMO Tek catches him better ....

[ksushi]

I'm psyched for Pauley, I think the move up for AAA is awesome. He earned it. I think he has to know now that he has a spot on the ML club come next year.

[schillingouttheks]

IMO Tek catches him better ....

I'm sure Tek would have caught him if there wasn't a double header.

 

Let him develop down in Pawtucket. I think he'll do well if we gradually increase his competition instead of ruining him by keeping him at the major league level. I think he'll do well in AAA and in a couple of years he can be a bottom of the rotation guy for us. A good one at that.

[jsinger121]

He has the ability to be a #5 pitcher in this league but what he needs is more seasoning and it is good for him to go down to AAA because he really has nothing left to prove in AA.

[a700hitter]

Hopefully, this game puts Pauley experiment to rest. It's too bad it didn't happen in his last start. His game against the Yankees just delayed the inevitable. He doesn't belong in the Bigs yet. He needs to go back to the minors for a year or two and then try to win a spot in ST. We need an experienced starter, maybe two (if Clement is damaged). Lester has tools and potential and he deserves another start, but I doubt that he will have the consistent command needed to stay in the majors.

[SCM33]

I dont think it was exactly ever an "experiment" per se. They needed someone to fill the gaps and decided Lester wasnt ready three weeks ago, and they already knew what they were going to get outta Abey babe.

 

I dont think they honestly expected very much from the AA kid, they wanted to see exactly what he had, and they knew he could possibly throw a lot of grounders. I think the FO was very pleased with what they got outta him in NY, but they expected more of the previous and latter against Toronto and Texas which was about 5 IP, 4 or 5 ER.

 

This is not a knock on the kid either, He faced the cream of the crop in terms of offenses...things just didnt go hiw way, but I really doubt they were expected to either.

[RoyNHSox]

I dont think it was exactly ever an "experiment" per se. They needed someone to fill the gaps and decided Lester wasnt ready three weeks ago, and they already knew what they were going to get outta Abey babe.

 

I dont think they honestly expected very much from the AA kid, they wanted to see exactly what he had, and they knew he could possibly throw a lot of grounders. I think the FO was very pleased with what they got outta him in NY, but they expected more of the previous and latter against Toronto and Texas which was about 5 IP, 4 or 5 ER.

 

This is not a knock on the kid either, He faced the cream of the crop in terms of offenses...things just didnt go hiw way, but I really doubt they were expected to either.

 

Your post really says it well.

 

My impression of Pauley is that Sox management wasn’t as concerned about his psyche as they are Lester’s. So in terms of bringing him up before he was ready, it was less of a risk if Pauley struggled and failed than Lester. The good news is the kid did show composure, but his lack of experience was obvious as well.

[redsoxrules]

well so far 0-2 7.88 ERA 16IP 31H 14ER 6BB 10K WHIP 2.31 opponants batting .419

 

and who was saying he has more balls and better than clement ???? i dont like clement myself but f*** pauleys stats are just plain awfull id send him back down right away , i wouldnt give him another start

[SCM33]

He was sent down after the game...to make room for Timlin.

[redsoxrules]

He was sent down after the game...to make room for Timlin.

 

great news!:thumbsup:

[RoyNHSox]

He was sent down after the game...to make room for Timlin.

 

Is this official yet? I thought they were going to wait until Tuesday.

[ksushi]

great news!:thumbsup:

 

Considering that most of the hits came today, when he really got ripped in the first and second inning, those stats are going to make him look a lot worse than he is. Of course if you go by the line all the time you won't always see the ability someone has. That said, Pauley isn't ready for a big league season and its probably best he gets his learning in down in AAA which will be a more friendly environment. He is 22, has good stuff, you might want to not bash him right off the bat because you'll probably be seeing more of him. He is actually a good pitching prospect to have.

[redsoxrules]

Considering that most of the hits came today, when he really got ripped in the first and second inning, those stats are going to make him look a lot worse than he is. Of course if you go by the line all the time you won't always see the ability someone has. That said, Pauley isn't ready for a big league season and its probably best he gets his learning in down in AAA which will be a more friendly environment. He is 22, has good stuff, you might want to not bash him right off the bat because you'll probably be seeing more of him. He is actually a good pitching prospect to have.

 

most of his hits came today? let me refresh your memory

may 31 VS toronto 11H

jun 06 VS new york 8H

jun 11 VS texas 12H

[Mr Crunchy]

is this the same kid who gave up 1 into the 7th inning in nyc last week as josh beckett and wakefield got killed and schill gave up 3 bombs??

[a700hitter]

He was sent down after the game...to make room for Timlin.

Hopefully, we will not see him until ST.

[Mr Crunchy]

3 starts against the best O's in baseball not named boston

he kept us in the 1st 2 games,i dont care about the #s,he gave us a chance to win the 1st 2

yesterday,against jon jon wasdin of all fukin people,he couldnt get it done

he isnt the answer but to dismiss him as 100% ineffective isnt proper either

[a700hitter]

3 starts against the best O's in baseball not named boston

he kept us in the 1st 2 games,i dont care about the #s,he gave us a chance to win the 1st 2

yesterday,against jon jon wasdin of all fukin people,he couldnt get it done

he isnt the answer but to dismiss him as 100% ineffective isnt proper either

He is not 100% ineffective. He is not effective nor consistent enough to stay with the ML team.

[Mr Crunchy]

agreed senor brasi

he needs to throw 150 more innings in the i/league and if his #s are decent he'll have a pop next year to make the club

[SCM33]

Is this official yet? I thought they were going to wait until Tuesday.

 

 

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[Cityofchampions33]

What is all this negativeness about a AA pitcher struggling in hi first ML stint? I eman what he did in NY should be enough, I mean talk about pressure, after giving up a lead in Toronto, then going into Yaneke Stadium and effectively shutting down the "potent" Yanee offense, I mean this kid has balls. I love his natural sinker and his curve will be good with some work, AAA was the right move for him, if he can just work on having all 3 pitches to be more consistent, then he'll make a fine ML pitcher one ay, maybe evn joining out trio of Papelbon, Lester, and Beckett.