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The guy needs to start a 21-game hitting streak to break Mr. Marilyn Monroe's record of 56 games. Just so you know...

 

 

 

Hope I'm not jinxing it. Let's go Jimmy!

Posted

Spanning it over 2 seasons is cheating. Asterisk!

 

But in all seriousness, the day in day out grind of baseball is what makes it so hard to get a streak of 56. An offseason in between kind of cheapens it.

Posted
Spanning it over 2 seasons is cheating. Asterisk!

 

But in all seriousness, the day in day out grind of baseball is what makes it so hard to get a streak of 56. An offseason in between kind of cheapens it.

 

 

I agree with the asterisk, but ONLY because I think it's important to see (in the future) that this was done over two seasons...BUT....

 

I think it's ridiculous to say that this is easier then what DiMag did...you hear players talk every day about just 'being in a groove' and 'swinging the bat real well right now' and things of that nature...To have JRoll break the record (which I hope he does, but don't think he will) I think would be a bigger accomplishment than to do it in a single seasons....dude has to have a hotstreak that lasts 9 freaking months. He could have had a damn kid in that amount of time.

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Spanning it over 2 seasons is cheating. Asterisk!

 

But in all seriousness, the day in day out grind of baseball is what makes it so hard to get a streak of 56. An offseason in between kind of cheapens it.

My feeling is quite the opposite. You need to be on a pretty hot streak to hit in 56 straight. Having 5 months, plus all of March for Spring Training off, that kinda tampers with your hot streak. Makes it difficult. You start off the second season cold and everything. I think doing it over a period of 2 seasons is more remarkable than doing it in one.

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I think it's ridiculous to say that this is easier then what DiMag did...you hear players talk every day about just 'being in a groove' and 'swinging the bat real well right now' and things of that nature...To have JRoll break the record (which I hope he does, but don't think he will) I think would be a bigger accomplishment than to do it in a single seasons....dude has to have a hotstreak that lasts 9 freaking months. He could have had a damn kid in that amount of time.

True, I'll give you that. He would basically have to have two hot streaks at possibly the two hardest times in the season to have hot streaks (Brian Roberts aside). He has some things going for him and some things going against him. How's that.

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My feeling is quite the opposite. You need to be on a pretty hot streak to hit in 56 straight. Having 5 months, plus all of March for Spring Training off, that kinda tampers with your hot streak. Makes it difficult. You start off the second season cold and everything. I think doing it over a period of 2 seasons is more remarkable than doing it in one.

Just for the record, I want my boy Joey D to hold this hitting streak record for a LONG, LONG time.

Posted
The guy needs to start a 21-game hitting streak to break Mr. Marilyn Monroe's record of 56 games. Just so you know...

 

 

 

Hope I'm not jinxing it. Let's go Jimmy!

 

 

Sean...I've noticed that you have a habit of quoting your own posts...:lol:

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yeah lol...most of the time it does it automatically for some reason :/

 

You probably have "Quote Message in reply" checked when you do Quick Reply.

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An offseason in between kind of cheapens it.
You really feel that way?

 

The way I figure it's herder to go on a tear at the end of one season and then start up all over again to egt another streak going, at the start of a new seaosn no less!

 

EDIT: I can see this has already been argued, any stat heads know what the longest streak from game one of a season on is?

Posted
Spanning it over 2 seasons is cheating. Asterisk!

 

But in all seriousness, the day in day out grind of baseball is what makes it so hard to get a streak of 56. An offseason in between kind of cheapens it.

 

I agree with yeszir completely on this. It isnt just the physical strain of doing it in one season, it's the mental strain also because of the media that will be on you if 56 is attainable during the season.

 

Also, this is baseball, noone cares about 2 season spans. Otherwise people woulda been going gaga everytime a basbeall player before McGwire or Sosa hit 61+ HRs in the span of 12 months.

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That's ridiculous. The hardest two times to get a good hititng streak going are the beggining and ends of the season. He was hot at the end of the season, hasn't been a game for the whole offseason and now he has to get hot alll over again.

 

As forMcGwire and Sosa, no one cared about going for it in 12 months because it was the SINGLE SEASON home run mark, this si jsut a hitting streak, nothing saying wether it can or can not be spanned over two seasons.

 

As for the mental strain and the "media surrounding him". The media is going to be all over this. We're talking about it right now and the season hasn't even started yet!

 

Bottom line here is it is so much harder to get hot and then try and get hot again in a new season all over again. It's called "mid-season form" for a reason.

Posted
so if someone legitimately hits 62 homeruns in 162 games, then thats the same as someone who gets a 56 game hitting streak over 2 seasons. Afterall, you need to be in midseason form for hitting HRs also, right? I think Giambi has a shot at it btw if you go with this logic.
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Posted

You are missing the point, the records' titles tell the whole story.

 

Single Season HR Record: By title, you have one season to do it.

Consecutive-Game Hit Streak: By title, the time limit isn't specified.

Posted
You are missing the point, the records' titles tell the whole story.

 

Single Season HR Record: By title, you have one season to do it.

Consecutive-Game Hit Streak: By title, the time limit isn't specified.

 

ok fair enough.

 

ehres a head scracther,

 

What about if the person does it over the span of 4 years? Maybe they're incredibly talented but just cant seem to stay healthy. Would that be more impressive to you?

Old-Timey Member
Posted
By definition, that woud fit the record. Although, I would definitely take issue with it. However, that isn't the case with Rollins. The only thing causing a break in his streak is the end of the season.
Posted
By definition, that woud fit the record. Although, I would definitely take issue with it. However, that isn't the case with Rollins. The only thing causing a break in his streak is the end of the season.

 

I only have a problem with it because it feels like this is something that should be accomplished in a single season. I don't know how many other "hallowed" baseball records don't make this distinction, but the consecutive hits record is the only one I can think of.

 

speaking of breaks, does it count if the guy gets intentionally walked in all his ABs in a game? but continues the streak the next game?

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I only have a problem with it because it feels like this is something that should be accomplished in a single season. I don't know how many other "hallowed" baseball records don't make this distinction, but the consecutive hits record is the only one I can think of.

 

speaking of breaks, does it count if the guy gets intentionally walked in all his ABs in a game? but continues the streak the next game?

 

The streak would be over because it is consecutive games and even if they would have walked they still would have played in the game.

Old-Timey Member
Posted
I'm not sure about that. It would depend on whether or not the record requires the player to record an AB in the game. All IBBs would mean no ABs, so the language of the record would matter. Let me see if I can find something.
Posted
I'm not sure about that. It would depend on whether or not the record requires the player to record an AB in the game. All IBBs would mean no ABs, so the language of the record would matter. Let me see if I can find something.

 

It's called a game hitting streak. If a player plays in a game even if he gets walked he still gets counted for playing in a game thus the streak is over.

Posted
It's called a game hitting streak. If a player plays in a game even if he gets walked he still gets counted for playing in a game thus the streak is over.

 

I dunno, I can see both points of view on this. Someone find this out

Old-Timey Member
Posted
I'm well aware of what it is called, but HHM brings up an interesting question. Can his streak be legitimately ended without giving him a chance to hit? You speak so often as if everything is absolute, as if we live in a black and white world, when in reality, there are many shades of gray in between.
Old-Timey Member
Posted
I can see this has already been argued, any stat heads know what the longest streak from game one of a season on is?

I found it over at Baseball-Almanac.com while looking for a clear description of the criteria of the rule (in an attempt to answer HHM's query).

 

AL: 34 games - George Sisler, St. Louis, 1925

NL: 44 games - Willie Keeler, Baltimore, 1897

Posted
Make it a 37 game hit streak. Rollins just hit a double in what most likely would have been his final at bat of the day in the 8th inning. Phillies are getting wrecked however.
Posted
I agree with yeszir completely on this. It isnt just the physical strain of doing it in one season, it's the mental strain also because of the media that will be on you if 56 is attainable during the season.

 

Also, this is baseball, noone cares about 2 season spans. Otherwise people woulda been going gaga everytime a basbeall player before McGwire or Sosa hit 61+ HRs in the span of 12 months.

Ripkens streak lasted over multiple seasons. I'm pretty sure somebody cares about that one.

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