World Baseball Classic Discussion

[MC Hammer]

You won't hear any argument from me.

 

Teams aren't countries, they aren't cities; they're groups of athletes who go out there and play a game.

Ok then how is this grouping of athletes playing each other any less of a clutch situation then groups of players playing in the states?

[yankeessuck013]

finally he comes through

 

he is now 1 for 100

[Bostons_Finest]

You won't hear any argument from me.

 

Teams aren't countries, they aren't cities; they're groups of athletes who go out there and play a game.

 

 

ur lame:thumbdown

 

jus mad yanks havent won in 6 years there pitching is ass so u aint gettin far in the playoffs once again.

[MC Hammer]

I loved the look on Arod's face after that hit ... it was just screaming "I FINALLY CAME THROUGH IN THE CLUTCH!!!!!"

 

USA wins.

[Optimist]

Ok then how is this grouping of athletes playing each other any less of a clutch situation then groups of players playing in the states?

 

What's at stake here? Nothing really.

 

What's at stake during the regular season? A world championship, something every single player, from their earliest days of playing, wants to win.

[Optimist]

ur lame:thumbdown

 

jus mad yanks havent won in 6 years there pitching is ass so u aint gettin far in the playoffs once again.

 

I'll respond to this after I translate it into English. Should take awhile.

[MC Hammer]

What's at stake here? Nothing really.

 

What's at stake during the regular season? A world championship, something every single player, from their earliest days of playing, wants to win.

No see whats at stake here is an actual WORLD championship. Not a United States and Canada championship.

[Optimist]

No see whats at stake here is an actual WORLD championship. Not a United States and Canada championship.

 

Ask any player, they'd rather have a ring than a WBC trophy.

[MC Hammer]

Ask any player, they'd rather have a ring than a WBC trophy.

Yeah well duh ... this is the first year of the WBC. Don't be an idiot.

[Optimist]

this is the first year of the WBC. Don't be an idiot.

 

If you seriously think players would ever want to win in March instead of October well, you'd know a thing or two about being an 'idiot.'

[MC Hammer]

If you seriously think players would ever want to win in March instead of October well, you'd know a thing or two about being an 'idiot.'

Did I ever say that. Obviously they want to win something thats been around longer than they have, more than anything. It has more history than the WBC.

 

That's not my arguement.

[kyahbean]

I think the players would want both - a ring and a WBC trophy...but perhaps for different reasons. A WBC trophy, this year, the first year of the classic, I would think would be pretty big. It is hard to compare that to a World Series win...as MC Hammer said..the WS has history..and the WBC doesn't have that yet. Sure, I bet if you asked any of those players in the classic, they'd be psyched to win the WBC trophy. But I don't think it's comparative to the WS ring....definately not equal..like MC said...these players grow up wanting that World Series...it's embedded. A win in the WBC will be great, as it in their competitive nature, but I wouldn't think it would be revered as much as that ring.

 

As for that game against Japan....that was a really good game. It was refreshing to see a game that didn't invoke the mercy rule. That first replay I saw of the contraversial call....it looked like that runner left the bag early...and Buck knew the rules of the game, and the ump rotation...so I guess the USA just lucked out. I don't have an opinion either way...those replays were tough to judge on, but I'm certainly glad it went in the USA's favor.

 

It's certainly different for me to be hoping A-rod and Jeter do good.... <_>

[ORS]

Two points I'd like to make.

 

#1

If you feel these games are meaningless and that the players involved would be better suited in their respective ST camps, then you aren't a fan of baseball, you are just a fan of your team. Which is fine, but it is a shame because as a baseball fan I can tell you are missing out on some fantastic baseball. Nothing about the atmosphere of the games, both on the field and in the stands, suggests this is meaningless. This is the first time all the best professional players from each country have played together when they were at the peak of their game. It's ground breaking, and it is as exciting as hell.

 

#2

If a player who you usually root against just so happens to be playing for your country, and he does something big to win the game, what is served taking shots at him afterwards? Seems very sophomoric to me.

[empirestrikesback26]

The yankees, I mean the US beats Japan.

[a700hitter]

Yes, playing for your country is meaningless.

Then why did they go?

 

 

As for the comments about winning a World Championship, my recollection is that ARod doesn't have one of those. He may have to settle for a WBC championship. As for the WBC being meaningless, IMO it probably has a lot of meaning to the US team. I think they would be personally embarrassed to lose the first true World tournament for the Great American Pastime.

 

BTW Not too many Yankees with rings anymore. I count PD, Posada and Mo. Damon and Myers have Red Sox rings. Pavano and Sheffield have Marlin rings. Not much Yankee winning tradition left on the roster.

[mtbykr]

If you seriously think players would ever want to win in March instead of October well, you'd know a thing or two about being an 'idiot.'

 

Well look, you are really starting to show your ignorance! These players are not substituting winning in march for winning in october; it is two totally different things. These players all want a WS ring, however they also want a WBC championship. It's not an either/or proposition! If these players didn't care about this, then they wouldn't be here---look at how many guys backed out. (and i am fine with that--i want the guys that are here to want to be here) These guys want to be here and represent their country, as evidenced by their participation and by their emotion.

 

 

Yes, playing for your country is meaningless.

 

That is your opinion, and one that is not shared by any member of team USA! -- becuase if it was, they wouldn't be there!

 

 

I love how you guys, and a few of these players, think they're actually doing something for their country by playing in this tournament. They're putting a uniform with their country's name on the front on and playing a game. It's meaningless.

 

All these guys could be doing much more important things right now, like (for guys like Damon) getting adjusted to playing with new teams or (for the rest) getting back into shape with their teams. You know, what this time of the year is supposed to be about.

 

Ahh the truth comes out; you are more concerned that damon won't mix with his teamates and needs more time---we know you care more about the yankers, but if you knew anything about damon, you would know that this isn't a problem! Even all the repots out of yanker camp says so (and i don't look for those reports, they were all over the place)

 

Teams aren't countries, they aren't cities; they're groups of athletes who go out there and play a game.

 

That's apparently how it is in NY, not in boston. -- The community is part of the team in every sense of the word!

 

 

 

Ok, so you don't like the WBC, fine---then why don't you go back to your yankee boards and talk spring training instead of coming here and spewing out crap that is totally oposite of your username!

[mtbykr]

The yankees, I mean the US beats Japan.

 

 

Nice try! A-rod came through when it counted and i congratulate him for that--he did a great job. (and i don't like the guy just so you know:D ) However it was one play, the A-rod and Jeter ground into DP's in critical situations didn't help; nor did JD striking out! A-rod did great, but let's not get carried away!

[Optimist]

Ahh the truth comes out; you are more concerned that damon won't mix with his teamates and needs more time

 

I wish I could make stuff up too.

 

---we know you care more about the yankers, but if you knew anything about damon, you would know that this isn't a problem! Even all the repots out of yanker camp says so (and i don't look for those reports, they were all over the place)

 

You'll notice I said 'guys like Damon,' players who are on a new team this year.

 

Ok, so you don't like the WBC, fine---then why don't you go back to your yankee boards and talk spring training instead of coming here and spewing out crap that is totally oposite of your username!

 

Wait, because I don't like the WBC I can't post here? Who are you? Bud Selig?

 

And what 'crap' have I spewed?

[MC Hammer]

For any kids watching the WBC tonight, please do not watch Soriano field ground balls ... horrible technique. He doesn't even make an attempt to square himself ... what a horrible 2B. To think some of you actually want this guy at 2B for the Sox

[jsinger121]

What a great atmosphere down there tonight. If this score holds up this would be a pretty big upset.

[mtbykr]

I wish I could make stuff up too.

 

Nice try, but i was quoting you. -- i didn't make anything up!

 

 

You'll notice I said 'guys like Damon,' players who are on a new team this year.

 

I understand what you said, but the guys playing in the WBC doesn't mean it has a negative impact on their "bonding" with their teams.

 

 

Wait, because I don't like the WBC I can't post here? Who are you? Bud Selig?

 

 

 

 

I never said that you couldn't post here. I was merely pointing out that everything you have said recently in this thread was negative towards the WBC. We get the fact that you don't like it, and that's your opinion and you are entitled to it! There are some of us who do like it and would like to discuss it.

 

And what 'crap' have I spewed?

 

and i quote:

 

 

Yes, playing for your country is meaningless

 

In my opinion, that is crap! Of course it is my opinion, and that is what we do on this board--give our opinion!

[empirestrikesback26]

Ortez is out!

[empirestrikesback26]

For any kids watching the WBC tonight, please do not watch Soriano field ground balls ... horrible technique. He doesn't even make an attempt to square himself ... what a horrible 2B. To think some of you actually want this guy at 2B for the Sox

Didn't have enough time. That ball was scolded. That said, he should have made the play.

[mtbykr]

Ortez is out!

I am not watching the game, what do you mean?

[empirestrikesback26]

He grounded out. I'm rooting for PR

[mtbykr]

Ohh, well you should be happy then cause it's over! We'll see if the DR can rebound!

[redsoxrules]

The yankees, I mean the US beats Japan.

 

 

i wouldnt brag about that ,japan has barely any major leaguers in their lineup,and it isnt because of the yankee players that their this far its because of Lee,not to mentioned the big controversial call in the 8 inning

[jsinger121]

i wouldnt brag about that ,japan has barely any major leaguers in their lineup,and it isnt because of the yankee players that their this far its because of Lee,not to mentioned the big controversial call in the 8 inning

 

Japan has many players on their roster that easily could be in the majors. They are not a pushover at all. The U.S. was lucky to win the game over a team that is just as good as them.

[The Monster is my Mom]

For any kids watching the WBC tonight, please do not watch Soriano field ground balls ... horrible technique. He doesn't even make an attempt to square himself ... what a horrible 2B. To think some of you actually want this guy at 2B for the Sox

 

You took the words right out of my mouth. That guy is sooo bad on defense, and really doesn't do much on offense. I'd much rather have Loretta.

[Ray10]

Wow man A-Rod really came through in the clutch. And Korea's pitching is looking good. Also liked the play of Puerto Rico upsetting the Dominican's 7-1 they are also looking really strong. Going to be a great game tonight when U.S.A faces off against Korea two really good teams in this tournament this game is for sure going to be within 2 runs at the end of it.