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I just read this and they mentioned it on EEI, makes sense, but where would he fit in. I'm thinking maybe 2B with Loretta as a backup.
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Sori would have some fun with the Green Monster, but I just don't think he fits. The guy is too stubborn to play OF and he sucks at second. Also it would probably put Loretta on the bench and screw everything up. I don't know.
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There's nowhere for him. This would be one of the dumbest moves the Sox ever made. He would only fit in as a 4th OF, and for the amount of money he makes, no way. I am not putting him at 2B over Loretta. Loretta is much more consistent, and older. Why is older good? Well, Pedroia's only blocked by Loretta right now, who will be with the Sox for a short amount of time. If Soriano plays 2B, we have a young, overrated 2B who's just blocking Pedroia and I don't want that, and neither does anyone else. Besides, he won't even play OF anyway, so he has no use here.
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Soriono at 2B would instantly give us one of the worst infields in the baseball ... no matter who we else we have around the diamond.

 

Don't we have another thread about the same thing?

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There's nowhere for him. This would be one of the dumbest moves the Sox ever made. He would only fit in as a 4th OF, and for the amount of money he makes, no way. I am not putting him at 2B over Loretta. Loretta is much more consistent, and older. Why is older good? Well, Pedroia's only blocked by Loretta right now, who will be with the Sox for a short amount of time. If Soriano plays 2B, we have a young, overrated 2B who's just blocking Pedroia and I don't want that, and neither does anyone else. Besides, he won't even play OF anyway, so he has no use here.

 

haha are you kidding me, are you saying Loretta>Soriano and Nixon>Soriano. You have got to be kidding me.

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haha are you kidding me, are you saying Loretta>Soriano and Nixon>Soriano. You have got to be kidding me.

 

Well, hitting-wise, Soriano > Loretta besides OBP. Soriano won't play the OF though, and would kill the infield defense.

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There's nowhere for him. This would be one of the dumbest moves the Sox ever made. He would only fit in as a 4th OF, and for the amount of money he makes, no way. I am not putting him at 2B over Loretta. Loretta is much more consistent, and older. Why is older good? Well, Pedroia's only blocked by Loretta right now, who will be with the Sox for a short amount of time. If Soriano plays 2B, we have a young, overrated 2B who's just blocking Pedroia and I don't want that, and neither does anyone else. Besides, he won't even play OF anyway, so he has no use here.

 

I don't want to block Dustin, but he can play short as well and Soriano would probably be a one year rental. I'm not in favor of this, I just thought I'd point that out.

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haha are you kidding me, are you saying Loretta>Soriano and Nixon>Soriano. You have got to be kidding me.

Soriano is a f***ing defensive blunder. Not to mention I don't feel like taking Trot's LH bat out of the lineup. I'm not starting Soriano in the OF where he's never played before, or has minimal experience.

 

And if you understood my post, I'd like to keep Loretta because we get Pedroia up here sooner.

 

But then again, if you want to delay our farm system from being put to use, by all means, take Soriano. And again, if you want to pay a HUGE contract that the Sox don't need, by all means, take Soriano.

 

I don't want him. Loretta has a great glove, and a f***ing .300 career avg. How could you ask for more? Especially when Soriano sucks with the glove?

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I don't want to block Dustin, but he can play short as well and Soriano would probably be a one year rental. I'm not in favor of this, I just thought I'd point that out.

I'd like to keep him at 2B. Let's leave him at his primary position and get him into the MLB before we start switching his position, and re-groom him.

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I'd like to keep him at 2B. Let's leave him at his primary position and get him into the MLB before we start switching his position, and re-groom him.

 

I thought his primary position was SS and was switched to 2B? I could be wrong though.

 

edit: We could still keep him at second though because he probably won't be up until midseason if at all this year. Again, not in favor of this, just pointing that out.

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Well, what I meant was he's been groomed in the farm to be a 2B. Let him play at his position NOW in the MLB. He could switch earlier because he still had to go through the farm. Now that he's on the verge of the MLB, let's just leave him alone. He's doing fine.
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haha are you kidding me, are you saying Loretta>Soriano and Nixon>Soriano. You have got to be kidding me.

I would also like you to explain exactly WHY you think Soriano > Loretta and Nixon. The only stuff I see you post are general with next to little, if any, support.

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Soriano would be our "renteria of 2005", we are talking 20+ errors he would give us. Loretta would be in the 10-15 range, edge Loretta. He also sucks with RISP. Whines when he doesnt get his way. OBP, thats Loretta as well (scouts have rated him one of the best #2 hitters in baseball)

 

Ah what the hell Im doing, this is a dead issue, so why bother argue? Soriano is only coming to Boston as the opposing player. Plain & Simple. Theo is a better man not to make that type of assinine trade.

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Soriano would be a terrible fit here. He is not the type of player the Red Sox are looking for right now. Big contract, free swinger, low OBP plus he would cost us some quality prospects to fill something which we currently don't need. Besides you're potentially blocking Pedroia and I'm satisfied with Loretta/Graffanino/Cora so this move makes 0 sense.
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What about playing Soriano at 1B?

 

Soriano's bitching right now about being moved from 2B to the OF so I wouldn't take the risk of him bitching about playing 1B, plus it's not as easy as everyone thinks it is just. Just ask our good friend Mr. Millar.

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he would cost us some quality prospects

 

I don't know. It would make sense that this is a possibility if Wells or Clement were part of the deal because I read at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/26/AR2006022601337.html that the Sox are prepared to give the 5th starter job to Jonathan Papelbon, making Wells, Clement, or Arroyo (less likely) expendable.

 

you're potentially blocking Pedroia

 

Soriano would probably be a one-year rental as he is a free agent after the season.

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Soriano would probably be a one-year rental as he is a free agent after the season.

 

Then what do the Sox do with Loretta, demote our solid #2 hitter to a bench role? Really there's no room, no need for him. Soriano would seriously decrease the Sox's infield power. He's made 100+errors the last 5 seasons, K's up easily (just throw a pitch off the plate and he will go swinging easily), doesnt take walks, the list goes on. Please this "Soriano to Boston" has no merit

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Then what do the Sox do with Loretta, demote our #2 hitter to a bench player. Really there's no room, no need for him. Soriano would seriously decrease the Sox's infield power. He's made 100+errors the last 5 seasons, K's up like Bellhorn, doesnt take walks, the list goes on. Please this "Soriano to Boston" has no merit

 

I'm not in favor of this, just pointing out (again) that Soriano is a FA after the season...

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I understand that. But I would rather have the Sox trade Wells away for a couple lower level prospects than Soriano, thats just how much I am against him coming to the Hub.

 

I'd trade Wells for Soriano, then spin Soriano off to Minaya for Milledge (if Minaya was dumb enough to do that).

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I'd trade Wells for Soriano, then spin Soriano off to Minaya for Milledge (if Minaya was dumb enough to do that).

 

Oh, he'd be dumb enough...

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...Aren't you the one that basically laughed at me for saying Loretta > Soriano and Nixon > Soriano in our given situation?

 

Now you're saying Minaya should send us Milledge because he'd be dumb enough? So where do you stand? Keep Soriano, send him off somewhere, or not get him? I'm confused because you seem to be contradicting yourself.

 

Basically, I can't say Loretta and Nixon > Soriano, but you can say Milledge >>>>>> Soriano when Milledge hasn't exactly proved himself in the majors yet?

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No, I just said minaya would be dumb enough to trade a top prospect for soriano. I'd like to see either Loretta or Soriano at 2B this year, and then kind of work pedroia in next year or the year after. How many years are on Loretta's contract?
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This is just a bad move overall unless there areother pieces involved, and theyd have to go heavily in our favor. Don't want him at 2nd, won't play any other posistion, basically a bad clubhouse guy, good power, good speed, but that about does it. He'd be a good DH, but we got that filled.

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