Troy Glaus

[schillingouttheks]

There have been no indications yet of what actual players that Boston were talking about.

Well, that's sort of his point. When trading for a guy like TROY GLAUS, and you know you're only giving up a 2nd base defensive specialist on top of a mediocre relief pitcher, there's no reason that you need to know who specifically the players were, because generally, those positions are simply not enough to get a guy like Troy.

[Beckett95]

Both teams have agreed on the deal, its just up to Glaus waiving his no-trade. Hopefully he decided he doesnt want to go to Toronto.

[riverside sluggers]

I think theres a good chance that the D-Backs could have asked Boston for Lester or Papelbon, rather than going for Wells/Clement. Which Im sure if happened, the Sox said "yeaaa im going to have to say no"

[ksushi]

Why do you guys all want a not so durable likes to strike out a lot poor average hitting 3rd basemen who has never played first but everyone assumes is capable?

[Beckett95]

I dont understand why theyd want Orlando Hudson and Miguel Batista for a guy like Glaus and a prospect

 

curious to know what the sox offered. I think a deal with Wells/Clement/Arroyo, Tony G and adam stern could have worked. Those 3 pitchers are all better SP than Batista. Hudson is better Defensively than Tony G, but not as good hitting. Stern could be their 4th OF

[Beckett95]

Why do you guys all want a not so durable likes to strike out a lot poor average hitting 3rd basemen who has never played first but everyone assumes is capable?

 

Kevin Youkilis never played first untill last year, where in 9 games he made no errors. He easily could play first. Injuries do worry me but i think hed be a great #5 hitter behind Manny and ortiz. He has 45 hr a year capability

[BigPapiEnFuego]

the red sox are so screwed next year.

[Cityofchampions33]

the red sox are so screwed next year.

 

If the Jays keep pulling off this blockbusters then it would seem so, I'm not convinced that we'll crash n burn next year just yet. However our future is bright with all the young talent we're gettin soon.

[riverside sluggers]

its december guys, not april

[Beckett95]

Its official

 

The Blue Jays have reached a tentative agreement to obtain third baseman Troy Glaus from the Diamondbacks, FOXSports.com has learned.

 

The deal is contingent on a physical, which Glaus is expected to take Monday in Toronto. A press conference is tentatively scheduled for Tuesday.

In return for Glaus, the Diamondbacks are expected to acquire second baseman Orlando Hudson and right-hander Miguel Batista. The Jays also might receive a prospect in the deal.

 

Glaus, 29, had the power to invoke the limited no-trade protection in his contract to block a trade to Toronto, but he apparently has agreed to waive that right and approve the deal.

 

Players generally require a financial inducement to relinquish no-trade protection, usually in the form of a bonus, a contract extension or the addition of an option year. The details of any agreement between Glaus and the Jays is not known.

 

The higher tax rate that Glaus would pay in shifting his place of employment from the United States to Canada is another financial consideration. Glaus almost certainly would want a tax-equalization benefit as part of any package he receives from the Jays.

 

The Diamondbacks were seeking to unload Glaus without paying any of his remaining salary - $32 million over the next three years. Batista is due $4.75 million next season. Hudson is expected to be in the $2 million range in salary arbitration.

 

Glaus is expected to remain at third base for the Jays, who possess a surplus of corner infielders — first baseman Lyle Overbay and third baseman Corey Koskie, plus Shea Hillenbrand and Eric Hinske, who play both positions.

 

Hillenbrand is the most likely of the group to be traded. Koskie, attracting minimal trade interest, could be reduced to a designated hitter if he remains with the team.

 

In recent years, star players have balked at moving to Canada, but the addition of Glaus is another testament to the Jays' rising profile. Earlier this off-season, the Jays signed free-agent right-hander A.J. Burnett and left-handed closer B.J. Ryan for a combined $102 million.

 

Glaus also may be open to playing for the Jays because his wife, Ann, is an equestrian rider who often travels to the east coast for competitions. His contract includes an additional $250,000 per year to help finance his wife's career.

 

If the Jays absorb the entire financial commitment to Glaus, it is doubtful they would use him as a DH. Overbay, recently acquired from the Brewers, is set at first. Which leaves Koskie, Hinske and Hillenbrand, at least one of whom will be moved.

 

Koskie, 32, is guaranteed $11 million over the next two seasons. Hinske, 28, is owed $9.95 million. Hillenbrand, 30, stands to earn at least $5 million in salary arbitration. He is the most attractive of the holdovers to rival clubs, having averaged 18 homers and 86 RBIs the past three seasons.

 

To accommodate Glaus' contract, the Jays likely would need to clear other salaries in addition to Hillenbrand's. General manager J.P. Ricciardi has said the team's payroll will be $75 million.

 

 

 

id think Glaus would DH, Overbay at 1st and Koskie at 3rd. Then they have to get rid of Hillenbrand and/or Hinske for a 2B, OF or maybe a RP

[riverside sluggers]

damn it all, cmon sox lets get millwood--get a blockbuster deal at least for this club

[Soxfan1]

f*** f*** f*** f*** f***!!!!! :rant:

[Beckett95]

If the Jays also sign Molina..........

 

[Soxfan1]

Screw it. I am this close to converting.> l l

[riverside sluggers]

Arizona got raped on this one, they gave up a 40HR/100RBI 3rd baseman for as what others said: an aging starting pitcher turned relief pitcher who hasnt shown much spark, and an average 2nd baseman, they also give up a prospect to toronto

[Beckett95]

i dont understand what the D-backs are thinking on this one. They wanted SP and got a spot-starter/middle reliever and an average 2B.

[ksushi]

Glaus really isn't that big of a deal.

[jimmycarter05]

No Glaus isn't that big of a deal. Manny has said that he would gladly go to Seattle to escape Boston. My thoughts are if he wants to go to Seattle of all places, let him go there.

 

Seattle:

Manny R.

Matt Clement

Abe Abverlez

 

Boston:

Richie Sexson

Raul Ibanez

Jeremy Reed

 

Then we trade Wells for Chris Young, straight up.

Then we trade Trot Nixon and Youk/Arroyo for Ryan Church and Jose Vidro and have Vidro play 2b while Loretta plays SS.

 

Opening Day Lineup

 

Loretta-SS

Vidro-2b

Ortiz-DH

Sexson-1b

Lowell-3b

Ibanez-LF

Tek-C

Church-RF

Reed-CF

 

SP

Beckett

Wake

Schilling

Young

Paps

 

BP

Foulke-CL

Seanz-SU,Cl

Mota-SU,CL

Timlin-MR

Hansen-MR

Dinaro-MR Lefty, Long Reliver(gets replace by Lester, is just Lefty)

Lester-Long Reliver, Alt. SP when he comes up(after All-Star break)

 

Back Ups

Cora-2b,SS

Marte-3b, could learn to play 1b too(as a backup)

Stern-4th OF

Moss-5th OF, when he comes up after All-Star break

Hucklby/Flatery-C

 

Trade Youk/Arroyo(whichever one is left over) for pitching prospects.

 

 

I don't know why I do this, its kinda fun for me, any comments?

[pats55sox45]

the sox might just think glaus is not woth one of their sp's that they can use as trade bait, since they can play youk at first, or marte at third with lowell at first

where as we have nobody to play at cf and ss

 

so the two sps that we trade should be used to get a cf and a ss

[jimmycarter05]

The Red Sox took a hit from their fan base for not coughing up the money to keep Johnny Damon, but there were signs yesterday the team was recovering by trying to put together a deal for a big bat and another big-name starter.

Troy Glaus, the Arizona Diamondbacks’ slugging third baseman, has been the focus of recent trade talks between the clubs. However, the Sox are not the only team interested in Glaus, whose fly ball power stroke makes him a natural fit for 20-30 home runs a season at Fenway Park. The Sox want him as a first baseman.

 

 

The Blue Jays were believed to be furthest along in talks with the Diamondbacks last night, but according to one executive who recently spoke with former Red Sox assisant GM and current Arizona GM Josh Byrnes, “I think he’s going to Boston, that’s what it sounds like.”

As tempting as Glaus might be, there were indications that the primary focus now is obtaining another pitcher first. That brings in free agent starter Kevin Millwood.

Signing Millwood would allow the Sox to trade one of three starters - David Wells, Matt Clement or Bronson Arroyo - possibly in a Glaus deal or in some other configuration.

A deal for Baltimore shortstop Miguel Tejada remains a longshot, especially with the Orioles more focused on swapping Tejada for Chicago Cubs pitcher Mark Prior. That deal is alive but currently involves just two teams.

Exactly what the Diamondbacks were looking for in return from the Sox was unclear, although if the Sox were willing to assume the bulk of the $32.5 million remaining on Glaus’ deal for the next three years, the cost in players may not be as high as one would think.

Team president and CEO Larry Lucchino said Wednesday at Fenway Park that the Sox would “redeploy” the dollars slated for Damon. The $40 million they had allotted for Damon for four years certainly would cover Glaus, 29, who had 37 homers last season for Arizona.

However, it would not address the Sox’ glaring need for a center fielder, leadoff hitter and shortstop.

[26 to 6]

Arizona got raped on this one, they gave up a 40HR/100RBI 3rd baseman for as what others said: an aging starting pitcher turned relief pitcher who hasnt shown much spark, and an average 2nd baseman, they also give up a prospect to toronto

Im still trying to figure this one out :dunno:

 

BUt there is no doubt the Jays will be a pretty good team.

[Beckett95]

No Glaus isn't that big of a deal. Manny has said that he would gladly go to Seattle to escape Boston. My thoughts are if he wants to go to Seattle of all places, let him go there.

 

Seattle:

Manny R.

Matt Clement

Abe Abverlez

 

Boston:

Richie Sexson

Raul Ibanez

Jeremy Reed

 

Then we trade Wells for Chris Young, straight up.

Then we trade Trot Nixon and Youk/Arroyo for Ryan Church and Jose Vidro and have Vidro play 2b while Loretta plays SS.

 

Opening Day Lineup

 

Loretta-SS

Vidro-2b

Ortiz-DH

Sexson-1b

Lowell-3b

Ibanez-LF

Tek-C

Church-RF

Reed-CF

 

SP

Beckett

Wake

Schilling

Young

Paps

 

BP

Foulke-CL

Seanz-SU,Cl

Mota-SU,CL

Timlin-MR

Hansen-MR

Dinaro-MR Lefty, Long Reliver(gets replace by Lester, is just Lefty)

Lester-Long Reliver, Alt. SP when he comes up(after All-Star break)

 

Back Ups

Cora-2b,SS

Marte-3b, could learn to play 1b too(as a backup)

Stern-4th OF

Moss-5th OF, when he comes up after All-Star break

Hucklby/Flatery-C

 

Trade Youk/Arroyo(whichever one is left over) for pitching prospects.

 

 

I don't know why I do this, its kinda fun for me, any comments?

 

there is no way in hell the marineers trade for Manny and we wouldnt be getting back enough. I also dont think the padres would trade chris young for David Wells

[26 to 6]

No Glaus isn't that big of a deal. Manny has said that he would gladly go to Seattle to escape Boston. My thoughts are if he wants to go to Seattle of all places, let him go there.

 

Seattle:

Manny R.

Matt Clement

Abe Abverlez

 

Boston:

Richie Sexson

Raul Ibanez

Jeremy Reed

 

Then we trade Wells for Chris Young, straight up.

Then we trade Trot Nixon and Youk/Arroyo for Ryan Church and Jose Vidro and have Vidro play 2b while Loretta plays SS.

 

Opening Day Lineup

 

Loretta-SS

Vidro-2b

Ortiz-DH

Sexson-1b

Lowell-3b

Ibanez-LF

Tek-C

Church-RF

Reed-CF

 

SP

Beckett

Wake

Schilling

Young

Paps

 

BP

Foulke-CL

Seanz-SU,Cl

Mota-SU,CL

Timlin-MR

Hansen-MR

Dinaro-MR Lefty, Long Reliver(gets replace by Lester, is just Lefty)

Lester-Long Reliver, Alt. SP when he comes up(after All-Star break)

 

Back Ups

Cora-2b,SS

Marte-3b, could learn to play 1b too(as a backup)

Stern-4th OF

Moss-5th OF, when he comes up after All-Star break

Hucklby/Flatery-C

 

Trade Youk/Arroyo(whichever one is left over) for pitching prospects.

 

 

I don't know why I do this, its kinda fun for me, any comments?

Thats all fine and dandy...but you're getting nothing in return for Manny. And do you seriously think the Padres will do Young for Wells straight up? Wells is over 40 and this kid young could potentially be a superstar.

[Beckett95]

2002 first-round pick Sergio Santos is expected to be the prospect included in the Troy Glaus deal with the Blue Jays.

That makes a lot of sense, as the Diamondbacks want to commit at Chad Tracy at third base and also have Stephen Drew, and hopefully Justin Upton, at shortstop. Santos hit just .239/.288/.367 in a disappointing first year in Triple-A, but he only turned 22 in July. He could become a quality regular after another year or two in the minors. Dec. 23 - 10:58 pm et

a first round pick who hasnt done much in the minors, but good potential. Josh Byrnes blew this deal

[jimmycarter05]

Thats all fine and dandy...but you're getting nothing in return for Manny. And do you seriously think the Padres will do Young for Wells straight up? Wells is over 40 and this kid young could potentially be a superstar.

 

 

We could add whichever one the Nats don't want, Youk or Arroyo.

[ORS]

a first round pick who hasnt done much in the minors, but good potential. Josh Byrnes blew this deal

I think you'll be singing a different tune in a few years. The D-Backs are loaded with corner IF and OF prospect talent, and Byrnes just added some middle IF talent into the mix while opening a hole for Chad Tracy. This team will be good in a couple of years.

[26 to 6]

I think they could have maybe got more from Boston.

[ORS]

Not likely. Most of Boston's moves thus far have improved the post-2006 team more than the 2006 one, which suggests a forward-looking FO, IMO. Toronto is acting very much like a "win now" team, and those types tend to offer more to get the deal done.

[26 to 6]

Not likely. Most of Boston's moves thus far have improved the post-2006 team more than the 2006 one, which suggests a forward-looking FO, IMO. Toronto is acting very much like a "win now" team, and those types tend to offer more to get the deal done.

good points

[ksushi]

Glaus isn't worth giving up much for since he comes with a grande contract and a .250 batting average. I ranted on that earlier but people seem to be allergic to my posts.

 

the guy is approaching 1000 strike outs in 8 ML Seasons. 3 of those seasons he played well under 100 games and got fewer than 300 AB's, his rookie season and his two injury hampered seasons. Im just pulling that out of memory so 300 AB's might be a little generous. Glaus sucks guys. Jose Valentin can hit home runs, but do we want him? No, he just gets less respect because hes ugly.