Ideas for 2006 lineup

[MANNYHOF24]

Here mine

Lorreta-ss

Youk-1b

Ortiz-dh

Manny (God i will kill someone if they trade him at this point)-lf

Tek-c

Nixon-rf

Lowell-3b/Marte if Lowel Struggles early

Reed-CF what a downgarde

 

This lineup can only survive if Manny is here, even then the depth is gone, wow what a couple of years can make

[jimmycarter05]

With this crazy off-season for the BoSox I think we should open up this thread again. Here is my 2006 Red Sox;

 

1. Trade Clement to Seattle for Jeremy Reed. Vouch to pay 2-3 million dollars a year of his contract to get it done.

 

2. Trade Arroyo to the Guardians for Coco Crisp.

 

3. Sign J.T. Snow to platoon with Youk at first. The man has won 4 GGs, so he could teach Youk a thing or two. Go after him aggressively.

 

4. Trade Nixon to a team for farm talent.

 

5. Trade Wells to SD for Chris Young and Clay Hensley. Maybe add those prospects to get it done.

 

6. Sign either Tony G or Alex G to play SS. It doesn't matter to me, whichever one is cheaper. Again, go after hard.

 

OR

 

Instead of trading Nixon for farm talent, trade him to the Nats for Jose Vidro and have Loretta play SS.

 

Lineup w/o Vidro

 

1. Crisp-RF

2. Loretta-2b

3. Ortiz-DH

4. Manny-LF

5. Lowell-3b

6. Tek-C

7. Youk/Snow-1b

8. Tony G/Alex G-SS

9. Jeremy Reed-CF

 

Lineup with Vidro

 

1. Crisp-RF

2. Loretta-SS

3. Ortiz-DH

4. Manny-LF

5. Lowell-3b

6. Tek-C

7. Youk/Snow-1b

8. Vidro- 2b

9. Reed- CF

 

Pitching Staff

 

This is not defined by staff ace or if you're a 1,2, or 3 starter.

 

Beckett

Wakefield- Put a Knuckleballer between two hard throwers.

Schilling- He's 14-2 pitching in games after Wake loses.

Paps

Young

 

Bullpen

 

CL- Foulke, on VERY short lease, if he can't do it he's mid relief and trade bait

SU/CL- Rudy S.

SU/CL-Mota

Mid- Timlin

Mid- Hansen, start in majors

Mid- Hensley

Long Reliever, Mid, Alt. Starter- Dinaro, also can be the lefty coming out of the pen

LR, Alt. Starter- Lester after the All-Star break, Dinaro becomes Mid Relief Lefty

 

Backups

 

Alex Cora- 2b/SS

Adam Stern- 4th OF

Brandon Moss- 5 OF, after the All-Star break.

Ken Hucklebey-C

Marte-3b

 

This is my 2006 Red Sox team.

[Beckett95]

1. Trade Bronson Arroyo for Coco Crisp

2. Trade David Wells and Youk for Scott Linebrink and Adrian Gonzalez

3. Sign Alex Gonzalez to play SS

 

LINEUP

1.Coco Crisp—CF—S

2.Mark Loretta—2B—R

3.David Ortiz—DH—L

4.Manny Ramirez—LF—R

5.Trot Nixon—RF—L

6.Mike Lowell—3B/1B—R

7.Jason Varitek—C—S

8.Andy Marte—1B/3B—R

9.Alex Gonzalez—SS—R

 

BENCH

Ken Huckaby—C—R

Adam Stern—OF—L

Tony Grafanino—IF—R

Adrian Gonzalez—1B—L

Alex Cora—UTIL—L

 

BULLPEN

LRP—Lenny Dinardo—L

MRP—Rudy Seanez—R

MRP—Scott Linebrink—R

SU—Mike Timlin—R

SU—Guillermo Mota—R

CL—Keith Foulke—R

 

ROTATION

1. Curt Schilling—R

2. Tim Wakefield—R

3. Josh Beckett—R

4. Matt Clement—R

5. Jon Papelbon—R

[Cityofchampions33]

My Plan:

1) Trade Clement for Reed, Meche, if needed give money

2) Trade Arroyo for Crisp

3) Trade Wells to SD for one of their two top C prospects (Kottaras/Hundley)

4) Trade Nixon to WSH for INF Brendan Harris

 

Lineup

1) Crisp, rf

2) Loretta, ss

3) Ortiz, dh

4) Ramirez, lf

5) Lowell, 3b

6) Varitek, c

7) Youkilis, 1b

8) Graffanino, 2b

9) Reed, cf

 

Rotation

1) Schilling

2) Beckett

3) Wakefield

4) Papelbon

5) Meche

 

Bullpen

1) DiNardo

2) Seanez

3) Timlin

4) Hansen

5) Mota

6) Foulke (if fails trade, call up Delcarmen)

[Optimist]

BULLPEN

LRP—Lenny Dinardo—L

MRP—Rudy Seanez—R

MRP—Scott Linebrink—R

SU—Mike Timlin—R

SU—Guillermo Mota—R

CL—Keith Foulke—R

 

ROTATION

1. Curt Schilling—R

2. Tim Wakefield—R

3. Josh Beckett—R

4. Matt Clement—R

5. Jon Papelbon—R

 

Only one lefty?

[Beckett95]

My Plan:

1) Trade Clement for Reed, Meche, if needed give money

2) Trade Arroyo for Crisp

3) Trade Wells to SD for one of their two top C prospects (Kottaras/Hundley)

4) Trade Nixon to WSH for INF Brendan Harris

 

Lineup

1) Crisp, rf

2) Loretta, ss

3) Ortiz, dh

4) Ramirez, lf

5) Lowell, 3b

6) Varitek, c

7) Youkilis, 1b

8) Graffanino, 2b

9) Reed, cf

 

Rotation

1) Schilling

2) Beckett

3) Wakefield

4) Papelbon

5) Meche

 

Bullpen

1) DiNardo

2) Seanez

3) Timlin

4) Hansen

5) Mota

6) Foulke (if fails trade, call up Delcarmen)

 

first, we need someone who can help right away in the wells trade, probaly a bullpen guy. Also, why would you trade your starting RF for another 3B prospect. Harris plays 3B/2B and we already got guys in Pedroia and Marte for those positions. Id much rather have Nixon and Crisp in my lineup than Reed and Crisp. I think we should keep Clement, who by the way went to the Allstar game last year, as our 4 or 5 starter. Gil Meche is a spot starter at best. Last two years hes had an ERA over 5.

[Beckett95]

Only one lefty?

 

i dont agree with it, but theres noone else out there really. They should have made a better offer to myers

[ksushi]

Why both crisp and reed? Despite his inability to live up to his promise trot nixon is still a viable option in right field. You can't deal both clement and arroyo, not with pitching being so scarce. No way. I say get reed and meche and see what is available for Wells, it won't be linebrink without adding something into that deal. Perhaps youkilis? Move Lowell to first, and put Marte at third. I like that.

[riverside sluggers]

for a center fielder:

 

Boston gets Torii Hunter, a gold glove center fielder who has pop in his bat

 

Minnesota gets Kevin Youkilis who theyve had on their radar, and 2 of our lesser known prospects

[Beckett95]

i think the sox have to get crisp because hes really the only available lead-off hitter. He and Reed are both good CF's and Crisp has a little more speed and is a much better hitter. NO way is reed leading off for the Red Sox next year

[Cityofchampions33]

first, we need someone who can help right away in the wells trade, probaly a bullpen guy. Also, why would you trade your starting RF for another 3B prospect. Harris plays 3B/2B and we already got guys in Pedroia and Marte for those positions. Id much rather have Nixon and Crisp in my lineup than Reed and Crisp. I think we should keep Clement, who by the way went to the Allstar game last year, as our 4 or 5 starter. Gil Meche is a spot starter at best. Last two years hes had an ERA over 5.

 

1)first, we need someone who can help right away in the wells trade, probaly a bullpen guy

Answer= Why? Unless it's Linebrink I'm not interested, and also we could use one of em when varitek gets to the end of his contract.

 

2) Harris plays 3B/2B and we already got guys in Pedroia and Marte for those positions

Answer= Pedroia to SS

 

3)Id much rather have Nixon and Crisp in my lineup than Reed and Crisp

Answer= I would not mind keeping Nixon if a) he wasn't injury prone, and he wasn't as old as he is. Reed and Crisp would make for a great young combo and if Reed reaches his power potential they could combine for 40 HRs a season.

 

4)I think we should keep Clement, who by the way went to the Allstar game last year...Gil Meche is a spot starter at best

Answer= Clement was another Theo mistake IMO, yes he was great in the first half and he only made the team due to injury. And Gil mehce I agree isn't much but he may get us to mid-season where hopefully Lester can take over? If not, keep Wells until mid-season.

[Beckett95]

Scouting Reprts for Reed and Crisp

 

REED

Reed makes contact easily with a line-drive stroke that sprays balls to all fields. He has good gap power, hits lefties successfully and consistently totals more walks than strikeouts. Reed is a good outfielder with a solid arm, and he may have enough speed to play center. That still isn't certain, as Safeco Field has a big outfield, but Reed has tremendous instincts, which may make up for his lack of pure speed. He still needs to fine-tune his jumps and angles on balls hit his way.

 

CRISP

Crisp is a switch-hitting, line-drive hitter who chokes up on the bat, sprays the ball around and likes to bunt. If Crisp walked more, he would be an ideal leadoff hitter. But patience is a problem. He likes to swing early in the count, hitting .380 (27-for-71) on the first pitch. The Guardians felt they put too much pressure on Crisp in 2003 when they asked him to hit leadoff. Last year, he spent most of his time in the ninth spot. Pitchers try to overpower the deceptively strong Crisp with fastballs.

Crisp stole 20 bases in 2004, but he still needs to work on his leads and knowledge of pitchers. With his speed, he should be better than a 61-percent basestealer. The Guardians consider Crisp to be an above-average left fielder and an intriguing center fielder because he can hit with more power than most players who man the position. In left field, he comes in and goes back well on balls and is not afraid of the wall.

[riverside sluggers]

And Gil mehce I agree isn't much but he may get us to mid-season where hopefully Lester can take over? If not, keep Wells until mid-season.

 

Gil Meche to us is saying "yes please lets tarnish our rotation." Theres no need for him anyway, and Wells is likely to be traded. If he isnt, look for him to retire like he has announced.

 

Curt Schilling

Josh Beckett

Matt Clement

Tim Wakefield

Jonathan Papelbon

 

I think by now any deal for Coco Crisp can be ruled out. An Arroyo for Reed is much more likely to happen.

 

Crisp turnover unlikely

By Chris Snow and Nick Cafardo, Globe Staff | December 18, 2005

 

While the Sox have talked with the Guardians about dealing for 26-year-old Coco Crisp -- who could play any of the outfield positions and hit leadoff or second -- it appears unlikely that Cleveland will deal the sure-handed and switch-hitting Crisp. The Guardians, according to a club official, have been contacted by many teams interested in Crisp, but have not come close to moving him. Cleveland is high on Crisp, who hit .300 with 16 homers and 69 RBIs while making $365,000 last season, and the team is in need of outfield depth. It is pursuing Nomar Garciaparra, who, if signed, would likely play right field, Casey Blake's position.

 

Garciaparra, though, appears closer to signing with the Dodgers. In a deal for Crisp, the Sox likely would have to give up Matt Clement or Bronson Arroyo. The Guardians lost starting pitcher Scott Elarton (who signed with Kansas City) and are expected to lose Kevin Millwood to a club with deeper pockets, but they have signed starter Paul Byrd, formerly of the Angels. That gives the Guardians a rotation with an 18-game winner (Cliff Lee), two 15-game winners (C.C. Sabathia and Jake Westbrook), and a 12-game winner (Byrd), which means they probably don't need much rotation help.

[Beckett95]

to bad the Devil Rays front office sucks. They have 3 solid CF in Crawford, Gathright and Baldelli. The problem is theyd want Lester and someone else in any trade

[Cityofchampions33]

Id rather get rid of Clement for reed

but if needed Ill trade Arroyo

[jimmycarter05]

If we can get Chris Young from the Pads, that puts us in pretty good conditon to trade both Arroyo and Clement, (since now we'll have a future rotation of Beckett, Paps, Lester, Young), and with starting pitching slim in this years market, I'm sure we'll get what need, hopefully a very good SS, 1b(if we trade youk, which I'm not in favor of), and CF.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

what are you getting Chris Young for?

[yankeessuck013]

anyone know when andruw jones becomes a FA, I heard its after next year.

[schillingouttheks]

Yes, the 2006-2007 offseason.

[ORS]

I've checked Hardballdollars.com and MLB4U.com, and both have A. Jones signed through the end of the 2007 season.

[jimmycarter05]

what are you getting Chris Young for?

 

 

If we trade Clement and Arroyo, that leaves us one short of a 5 man pitching rotation, so we trade Wells for Chris Young(our 5th starter) and Clay Hensley(great young bp guy).

[Beckett95]

Peter Gammons says the redsox have to get another bat in the middle of the lineup (Troy Glaus), a leadoff guy (Julio Lugo and takes care of SS) and a CF (Jeremy Reed, who he says well be better than Damon in 3-4 years).

[stocker323]

Peter Gammons says the redsox have to get another bat in the middle of the lineup (Troy Glaus), a leadoff guy (Julio Lugo and takes care of SS) and a CF (Jeremy Reed, who he says well be better than Damon in 3-4 years).

 

I don't think we have enough guys to trade to acquire all 3 of those players.

[ORS]

If we trade Clement and Arroyo, that leaves us one short of a 5 man pitching rotation, so we trade Wells for Chris Young(our 5th starter) and Clay Hensley(great young bp guy).

On what planet do 43 year-old pitchers, who have said they are only playing one more year, land two young, good prospect type players?

[Cityofchampions33]

Peter Gammons says the redsox have to get another bat in the middle of the lineup (Troy Glaus), a leadoff guy (Julio Lugo and takes care of SS) and a CF (Jeremy Reed, who he says well be better than Damon in 3-4 years).

 

Since when do we need anotehr guy for the middle of the lineup? We had the same 3-4-5 last year except now -Millar and add Lowell

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

If we trade Clement and Arroyo, that leaves us one short of a 5 man pitching rotation, so we trade Wells for Chris Young(our 5th starter) and Clay Hensley(great young bp guy).

Its a good idea but why would the Padres trade Chris Young and Hensley for a 42 year old pitcher who is demanding a trade which means they(Red Sox) really dont have much leverage at all?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

On what planet do 43 year-old pitchers, who have said they are only playing one more year, land two young, good prospect type players?

Damn you one red seat your a minute ahead of me

[Beckett95]

Since when do we need anotehr guy for the middle of the lineup? We had the same 3-4-5 last year except now -Millar and add Lowell

Im just saying what Peter Gammons said on ESPN News

[ORS]

Damn you one red seat your a minute ahead of me

JC05 is on my radar, as some of his trade ideas are pure fantasy, so I usually check it out when one of his posts is the latest on the main forum page.

[jimmycarter05]

On what planet do 43 year-old pitchers, who have said they are only playing one more year, land two young, good prospect type players?

 

 

Alright then, just Young, but if we can get Hensley by maybe throwing in Abe, then we should do it