Damon to the Yankees

[eZ_d0eS_iT]

This is a great move by the yankees, but even more devestating to the bosox in my opinon.

 

um, not really. its a good short - term fix for the yanks, and an even better long-term one for the sox.

[natsfan]

An outsider's view of the Johnny Damon signing at awesomeinc.blogspot.com

[riverside sluggers]

Dirt Dogs:

 

Good Riddance Johnny

 

Sung to the tune of Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) by Green Day

 

Another long drawn out Scott Boras episode

George grabs him by the wrist, directs him where to go

So take the cash and defect to the other side

It's not a question, because we know the reason why

 

Johnny left for the money, his agent by his side

I hope you had the time of your life.

 

The Damon photographs now cost $1.99

Cardboard cutouts are half off for a limited time

No more Michelle hosting NESN's show "In Style"

We'll watch you fade and then get old in those pinstripes

 

Johnny left for the money, his agent by his side

I hope you had the time of your life.

[MANNYHOF24]

um, not really. its a good short - term fix for the yanks, and an even better long-term one for the sox.

 

Why is this a better long term option for the sox, i think Damon will be great all four years of the contract. Do you see a legite prospect to play center that can fill the leadoff spot and CF, Umm no, this is terrible by the sox front office, Damon was a God in this city and the Catylist for the entire lineup, with no leadoff man Manny and Davids RBI totals go Down

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Why is this a better long term option for the sox, i think Damon will be great all four years of the contract. Do you see a legite prospect to play center that can fill the leadoff spot and CF, Umm no, this is terrible by the sox front office, Damon was a God in this city and the Catylist for the entire lineup, with no leadoff man Manny and Davids RBI totals go Down

He's reffering to the Draft Pick

 

...you know, that draft pick every Red Sox fan here thinks will make the Sox system FAR better than the Yankees.

[riverside sluggers]

He's reffering to the Draft Pick

 

...you know, that draft pick every Red Sox fan here thinks will make the Sox system FAR better than the Yankees.

 

what the hell are you talking about? Myself included, I have really not seen much posts about us getting a 1st round pick. It doesnt matter much to me really. Please show posts of people saying on here that say "us getting that pick will make us FAR better than the Yankees."

[ORS]

He's reffering to the Draft Pick

 

...you know, that draft pick every Red Sox fan here thinks will make the Sox system FAR better than the Yankees.

I suppose this is an attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor, and a pretty bad one at that. FWIW, the Sox get two draft picks from this, and more importantly, they aren't saddled with a 34+ year old declining CF, which is very likely to happen, in two years. Also, the Sox are the first team to pick 4 times in June's draft, and after the Sox make their 5th pick in the 2nd round, the Yankees will be making their 3rd.

[eZ_d0eS_iT]

Why is this a better long term option for the sox, i think Damon will be great all four years of the contract. Do you see a legite prospect to play center that can fill the leadoff spot and CF, Umm no, this is terrible by the sox front office, Damon was a God in this city and the Catylist for the entire lineup, with no leadoff man Manny and Davids RBI totals go Down

 

 

HOF please do yourself a favor and take off those rose-colored glasses you obviously have on and see that the money saved on keeping Damon can be better well spent than an aging 32 yo CF with no arm and serious wear and tear. The only reason he didn't go on the DL for an extended period of time was that it was his walk year and he didn't want to negatively affect his value too much. He was definitely an icon in the city and good player, but I'm not going to say great. His power numbers have been on a steady decline and keeping doesn't make sense if the team is making all these moves to compete in the future instead of now. I think I'd rather have a shot at Andruw Jones than keeping an aging Damon.

 

2nd of all Loretta is more than capable of leading off and if not, I have faith a deal will be made to bring in someone who can. For Christ-sake, quit acting hysterical...last I checked its still December. And at this point I'm not even 100% positive Manny will still be here if an all-star CF/SS become available through a trade.

[26 to 6]

I suppose this is an attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor, and a pretty bad one at that. FWIW, the Sox get two draft picks from this, and more importantly, they aren't saddled with a 34+ year old declining CF, which is very likely to happen, in two years. Also, the Sox are the first team to pick 4 times in June's draft, and after the Sox make their 5th pick in the 2nd round, the Yankees will be making their 3rd.

I love how you guys point out all of the negative of Johnny Damon now that he is here, but you know that had he re-signed none of this talk of his decline and age would even be brought up. And you are right, I had forgotten that it was 2 draft picks, the 2 picks that are going to make the Sox system so much better than the Yanks system. Well at least according to you guys a couple hundred pages back. Everyone was saying how this is going to make the Sox system far and away better, as if the picks are guaranteed to become superstars. There are tons of highly touted draft picks that dont make it big.

[bellhornsgirl12]

I think it's a bunch of bull. Johnny doesn't have a Boston heart like he claimed. He always said that Boston was his home, he lied. He was never a true red sock. He had no love.

[eZ_d0eS_iT]

I love how you guys point out all of the negative of Johnny Damon now that he is here, but you know that had he re-signed none of this talk of his decline and age would even be brought up. And you are right, I had forgotten that it was 2 draft picks, the 2 picks that are going to make the Sox system so much better than the Yanks system. Well at least according to you guys a couple hundred pages back. Everyone was saying how this is going to make the Sox system far and away better, as if the picks are guaranteed to become superstars. There are tons of highly touted draft picks that dont make it big.

 

the point is his age and obvious wear and tear would have been a concern, but the difference is we didnt become committed to a ridiculously inflated contract. 4yr/40 mil is a fair deal for what he's done and contributed to this city...not necessarily an indication of the production you think you'll see out of him.

[bellhornsgirl12]

money money money thats all its about these days. Nobody plays because they love it anymore.

[ORS]

I love how you guys point out all of the negative of Johnny Damon now that he is here, but you know that had he re-signed none of this talk of his decline and age would even be brought up. And you are right, I had forgotten that it was 2 draft picks, the 2 picks that are going to make the Sox system so much better than the Yanks system. Well at least according to you guys a couple hundred pages back. Everyone was saying how this is going to make the Sox system far and away better, as if the picks are guaranteed to become superstars. There are tons of highly touted draft picks that dont make it big.

I love how you, without fail, put words into my mouth.....

 

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In all fairness. JD is arguably the best leadoff hitter in baseball, and he'd have a lot more steals if he's on a team that runs more. That said, the durability and the arm are why he doesn't deserve any longer than 3 years (+options).

 

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Boras may laugh, but not any harder than teams must be at the thought of paying $84M over 7 years to an aging CF with a noodle arm. Anyone who gives him more than 4 years or more than $10M per is overpaying IMO.

 

I think my opinion pre-Damon signing is fairly consistent. Looking that up took me all of 10 minutes, which wouldn't have been a terribly large investment of your time in order to avoid looking like an idiot. Here's my advice, why don't you try actually researching something instead of pulling something out of your ass when you don't really know the answer.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Alot of you guys attack Damons durability. But at the same time this guy hasnt been on the DL in what 10 years? Last year was the first time ever that he really delt with injuries. Dont you need a little bit more to be overly concered with someones durability when hes only had one "injury plagued season" if you even want to call it that(He had a shoulder problem thats the only major thing I heard about. The concussion came on a freak play). Plus you want to talk about durability lets talk about one of the Red Sox pick ups this off-season. Josh Beckett is still yet to ever pitch over 180 innings. I'd be a little bit more concered with him then Damon who only delt with a shoulder problem last season. BTW This is not for just one red seat, Damons durability has been talked about alot.

[ORS]

Alot of you guys attack Damons durability. But at the same time this guy hasnt been on the DL in what 10 years? Last year was the first time ever that he really delt with injuries. Dont you need a little bit more to be overly concered with someones durability when hes only had one "injury plagued season" if you even want to call it that(He had a shoulder problem thats the only major thing I heard about. The concussion came on a freak play). Plus you want to talk about durability lets talk about one of the Red Sox pick ups this off-season. Josh Beckett is still yet to ever pitch over 180 innings. I'd be a little bit more concered with him then Damon who only delt with a shoulder problem last season. BTW This is not for just one red seat, Damons durability has been talked about alot.

Good point, he hasn't spent much time on the DL in his career. My concern centers more around his go-for-broke style of play, combined with advancing age.

 

Yes, Beckett is an injury risk. But, the Sox have two years at arbitration prices to find out if the risk is enough to cause serious concern, while the Yankees have four years at $13M ($18.2M with cap penalty) to see if Damon's body and level of performance can hold up.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Good point, he hasn't spent much time on the DL in his career. My concern centers more around his go-for-broke style of play, combined with advancing age.

 

Yes, Beckett is an injury risk. But, the Sox have two years at arbitration prices to find out if the risk is enough to cause serious concern, while the Yankees have four years at $13M ($18.2M with cap penalty) to see if Damon's body and level of performance can hold up.

Yeah, your the only one that I see makes any logical point surrounding Damon and his durability. As for Beckett, hes certainly worth it. Why not? great stuff and already a world series MVP. The only problem in that arguement is while you certainly make a good point about the money, the Red Sox did give up what in many people mind was a top 5 or 10 prospect in Hanley Rameriez.

[jsinger121]

hanley was a top 10 prospect in many peoples eyes but the fact is he was getting alot of hype for having 5 tool potential yet he has never backed up his hype with the statistics. the red sox in fact have replaced hanley with an even better prospect in andy marte who has backed up his hype with stats in the minors and is 21 already and has tasted the big leagues.

[26 to 6]

the point is his age and obvious wear and tear would have been a concern, but the difference is we didnt become committed to a ridiculously inflated contract. 4yr/40 mil is a fair deal for what he's done and contributed to this city...not necessarily an indication of the production you think you'll see out of him.

That arguement "we didnt commit to an inflated deal..." makes no sense because you offered him the same amount of years. True, we offered more money, but money isnt a factor when it comes to players declining.

[a700hitter]

After the 2004, no FA was hotter than Carlos Beltran. The Mets won that sweepstakes and watched the 2005 playoffs from their couches. The Astros were so devastated that they went to the World Series. When the Yanks got ARod, the Red Sox were supposedly devastated, and they won it all for the first time in 86 years. Enjoy your acquisition now. You may not be smiling in the Fall.

[jsinger121]

i wonder how many people take into account that alot of the hits that damon slapped off the wall at fenway will becomes out at yankee. he is not a dead pull hitter. i believe his average will drop into a range like between .280-.290. for his career he is a .290 hitter and if you take him away from fenway it would be much lower than that.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

BTW any idea what pick the Yankees give up for Damon? Someone told me a 2nd rounder and the Yankees retain their 1st rounder from the Phillies for Gordon.

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BTW any idea what pick the Yankees give up for Damon? Someone told me a 2nd rounder and the Yankees retain their 1st rounder from the Phillies for Gordon.

I think they get out original first rounder and a supplemental 1st round pic ...not positive though, good chance im wrong.

[ORS]

They got the #28 pick, the Yankees original 1st round slot, for Damon. The Yankees got the #21 from Philadelphia. Both got sandwich picks.

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and for those that dont know, a sandwich pick, or a supplemental 1st round pick is a pick that takes place between the 1st and 2nd round.

 

ORS.. where do you have a list of who has what picks? Im curious.

[ORS]

I lurk over at SoSH (I think fees and applications are a little pompous), and one of the members, Eric Van, works in the Sox FO. He updates a draft compensation thread whenever signings that affect the draft occur. You can get a viewer membership for free, you just can't access certain parts of the board or post messages.

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[riverside sluggers]

the Sox should just give up Damon's #18 to first come, first serve

[jsinger121]

I wouldn't be shocked if the sox do. he only played 4 years. its not like he is going to be a hall of famer either. he was a nobody before he came to boston and grew the hair. now he thinks he is a star.

[He Hate Me]

it's amazing how fast some people start bashing Johnny the minute he leaves town. I heard the same things when Pedro went to the Mets, and we know how that turned out.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

it's amazing how fast some people start bashing Johnny the minute he leaves town. I heard the same things when Pedro went to the Mets, and we know how that turned out.

Same with Nomar