Did we just get Beckett?

[26 to 6]

Pitchers of the caliber of Martinez or Beckett can adapt to any league. It's not like Beckett's been facing NL hitters for decades and has his comfort zone. He'll succeed in the AL.

And when he doesnt?

 

Same could be said for Pavano in regards to how long he's been facing NL hitters, but that never stopped anyone from counting him out based on the fact that he was an NL pitcher.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Wells is an AL pitcher, sorry buddy. And as I recall, despite his great start, Clement was hardly reliable down the road.

 

All I was saying t=is that you guys are quick to jump on us when we get an NL pitcher, and say that hes gonna suck based on our luck the last few years, but here you guys go and get an injury-prone NL pitcher and make him out to be Cy Young all over again. thats all I was saying. It doesnt matter much to me, im pretty happy about this trade. because while, yes, there is a chance it works out great for you guys, there is also the chance that it turns out horribly.

 

Beckett could hit the DL once or twice next year, Lowell could have similiar difficulties next year to what he had this past year. And as I recall, Lowell couldnt hit the moon if you threw it at him. Also, while Lowell is playing 3rd for you guys, unless he starts at first, Youk will be rotting away another year in Pawtucket or on the bench.

 

I cant wait until the day next year where beckett is on the DL, Lowell is in an 0-22 slump, and Renteria is making errors left and right (much like last year) and you guys are saying "man, we should have never made this trade, now we're stuck with Renteria who cant catch the ball, Beckett who cant stay healthy, and Lowell who cant hit. I wish we still had Hanley"

 

So good luck with this one guys, as I said, it could potentially be a great deal for you guys, but it could just as easily be a nightmare. So dont put all of your money on this one yet.

 

 

Sounds like bitterness to me?? I'm sure you guys would LOVE to have Beckett and dont tell me otherwise.

 

Don't compare Beckett to Pavano either....the talent between the two is rediculous. Pavano was the fourth most talented on that staff behind Beckett, Burnett, and Willis

[yeszir]

And when he doesnt?

 

Same could be said for Pavano in regards to how long he's been facing NL hitters, but that never stopped anyone from counting him out based on the fact that he was an NL pitcher.

"When" and if he doesn't, it wont be because he switched leagues. Baseball's baseball.

[Optimist]

Sounds like bitterness to me??

 

Who would be bitter about a rival team picking up a pitcher who has been on the DL 9 times in 4 seasons?

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Who would be bitter about a rival team picking up a pitcher who has been on the DL 9 times in 4 seasons?

 

I GUARANTEE you would be shouting for joy if you guys traded for him and not us

[Cityofchampions33]

Don't even try to deny that Beckett is not better than the NL pitchers we've seen fail in the AL. A lot of papers are comparing this to the Martinez trade and your own are saying this will beat whatever George will throw back at us.

[Optimist]

I GUARANTEE you would be shouting for joy if you guys traded for him and not us

 

Yeah, I'd be jumping for joy at the idea of trading away top prospects for this:

 

http://nomaas.org/images/becketthurt.jpg

[JimBrown32]

thats what i'm saying. Everyone is so convinced that they have a sure thing here, but fact of the matter is that hes just another one of those NL pitchers who hasnt proven anything in the AL yet. And correct me if im wrong, but dont a lot of Sox fans always rag on us because we have gone out and got a lot of NL pitchers lately??

 

Like seriously, Beckett doesnt have Nolan Ryan numbers, in fact he is only 7 games above .500 for his career, and all these SWox fans are pointing to him to be their Ace.

 

The Yankees have always messed up the careers of good players, alot like the Mets too, they always seem to be killers of studs. Sometimes they stay good, but that's rare. Of course, you DO have a point, NL pitchers get their asses handed to them in general once they go to the AL. It's a waste of good money.

[JimBrown32]

Yeah, I'd be jumping for joy at the idea of trading away top prospects for this:

 

http://nomaas.org/images/becketthurt.jpg

 

He was also the WS MVP in 2003, which he OWN3D you guys.

[yeszir]

Who would be bitter about a rival team picking up a pitcher who has been on the DL 9 times in 4 seasons?

Most of the time with measley blisters. No rotator cuff tears or ACL concerns. Sox doctors should be able to patch him up nicely should something go wrong. We seem to be good at that.

[Optimist]

Actually, I'm going to shut up. One of you is buying me a Christmas present and with each post I'm slipping closer and closer to coal...

[26 to 6]

"When" and if he doesn't, it wont be because he switched leagues. Baseball's baseball.

well how come when the Yankees get an NL pitcher who doesnt work out its because he switched leagues. When it applies to us, its never because "baseball is baseball", but because we are dumb for going out and getting another NL pitcher.

 

Who would be bitter about a rival team picking up a pitcher who has been on the DL 9 times in 4 seasons?

 

Pretty much what im trying to say, you guys can take him. I dont want him. After 2003 he was garbage. Granted, if you could guarantee me that he would pitch like he did in the 2003 postseason I would be all for getting him, but I cant say based on the past 2 years that he is a guy I would want to go out and get. Honestly.

[26 to 6]

He was also the WS MVP in 2003, which he OWN3D you guys.

and there is no denying that he owned us. Josh Neckett of October, 2003 is a great pitcher.

[yeszir]

well how come when the Yankees get an NL pitcher who doesnt work out its because he switched leagues. When it applies to us, its never because "baseball is baseball", but because we are dumb for going out and getting another NL pitcher.

 

Give us some examples so we can refute them please.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Yeah, I'd be jumping for joy at the idea of trading away top prospects for this:

 

I'm still waiting to hear about all these pitchers who come over from the NL to the AL and stink??

 

Dan Haren is the only young starting pitcher that comes to mind....who the hell are you Yankee fans talking about?? As far as I know Haren had a great season...don't think he is in the same class as Beckett. You guys are just bitter about Pavano, Wright, Vazquez, Brown....do you see a pattern??

[Optimist]

You guys are just bitter about Pavano, Wright, Vazquez, Brown....do you see a pattern??

 

Yeah, keep thinking this only applies to the Yankees...

 

Wow, 2006 is going to be very entertaining.

[yeszir]

Yeah, keep thinking this only applies to the Yankees...

 

Wow, 2006 is going to be very entertaining.

Sure will be. I can't wait for the world series DVDs to come out in 2007!

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Yeah, keep thinking this only applies to the Yankees...

 

Wow, 2006 is going to be very entertaining.

 

Just keep dancing around the question....name pitchers??? you must be digging real deep if you dont have any names yet.

[Optimist]

Sure will be. I can't wait for the world series DVDs to come out in 2007!

 

Yes, it'll be great when they change the sign near the Stadium from "26 World Championships" to "27 World Championships."

[RedSoxRooter]

Yeah, I'd be jumping for joy at the idea of trading away top prospects for this:

 

Well, yeah, maybe. But your team has no top prospects to begin with, so shut up.

 

[Optimist]

But your team has no top prospects to begin with

 

Duncan? Bean? Cabrera? Henn? etc. etc.

 

so shut up.

 

You shut up.

[schillingouttheks]

The "etc etc" normally means you cant think of any more.

[Cityofchampions33]

Don't get us started on camparing the minor leaguers again...

 

Thing is, Beckett is better than most or all of the NL pitchers you get, he is 25 and hasn't even rwached his prime, you can;t judge him on his first years, and if he can beat the Yankees, in yankee Stadium, during the World Series, when he was 23, I'd say thats a pretty good start to a career.

[Optimist]

The "etc etc" normally means you cant think of any more.

 

Pretty much.

[RedSoxRooter]

I'm just gonna post this again because it's fun!

 

http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/chinigor/talksox/WWJD2.gif

[Cityofchampions33]

Wait, did u post it for fun? or because thats one of the many failed Yankee NL pitchers? either or, good post

[yeszir]

I'm just gonna post this again because it's fun!

 

http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/chinigor/talksox/WWJD2.gif

Ha!

 

And I'm gonna post THIS again because it too is fun:

:dance:

[riverside sluggers]

Same could be said for Pavano in regards to how long he's been facing NL hitters, but that never stopped anyone from counting him out based on the fact that he was an NL pitcher.

 

I never wanted Pavano, glad you guys got him. he's had his share of seasons with ERA's over 5. And about Hanley as if you didnt know, which im sure is the case, Hanely was really overhyped as a top prospect. Im not just saying this because of the trade for Beckett. He struggled for most of the season when he had come up to play Double A. And now the marlins are going to make him their starting shortstop, whcih i think could backfire on them, if he struggled against Double A pitching. How will he be to jump to against major league pitching. We gave away Anibal Sanchez, ok good for the Marlins. We wasnt our top pitching prospect, the top is prized Jon Lester who the Marlins were really pushing for. He had cemented more of a presence than Sanchez did for the Sox and will be a starter on opening day, 2007.

 

I find it very laughable "oh wait and rent had 30 errors last season, so that means duh its gonna happen for 2006. Lowell though in a hitter's park will go duh 0-22. Beckett will go on the DL because he went on it last season."

[Cityofchampions33]

Thing is they keep comparing beckett to otehr NL pitchers that came over and failed, aka Vazquez, Brown, Pavano, etc. so they think he will do the same thing. they just don't get that Beckett is ONLY 25, and is already MUCH better than all of those guys.

[yankeessuck013]

is this trade official yet?

 

if not, are the physicals the only thing making this trade from becoming official in the next few days?