September 18: Yankees vs Blue Jays

[Optimist]

Typical.

 

Umps screwing up? Yes, it is typical. It's been happening all weekend.

[CrespoBlows]

Umps screwing up? Yes, it is typical. It's been happening all weekend.

 

Wow, I'm optimistic on your chances of being a total dumbass. Jesus christ, that pitch was a great one, right on the inside corner. It only looked inside, because Jeter was hanging on the plate. You lost, that's all there is to it. This isn't the god damn Kennedy conspiracy, it's just a f***ing ball game, just concide defeat.

[26 to 6]

Wow, I'm optimistic on your chances of being a total dumbass. Jesus christ, that pitch was a great one, right on the inside corner. It only looked inside, because Jeter was hanging on the plate. You lost, that's all there is to it. This isn't the god damn Kennedy conspiracy, it's just a f***ing ball game, just concide defeat.

have to agree with you.

 

Optimist, though some of the calls on the corners have been questionable this weekend, theyve been questionable for both teams so we really cant complain.

 

Now if we could just completely forget about this game I would be very happy. A tough loss.

[Optimist]

This isn't the god damn Kennedy conspiracy,

 

You're right, it's just incompetence.

 

just concide defeat.

 

...never mind.

[ORS]

Umps screwing up? Yes, it is typical. It's been happening all weekend.

Borderline calls go both ways in every ballgame played. Blaming the umps for a loss only accomplishes one thing. It proves that you are an idiot. Think before you speak or, in this case, type.

[Optimist]

Oh well, reasons to be optimistic after today:

 

1) A 5 - 1 road trip isn't something to be dissapointed with.

2) Boston's lead has been cut in half since last Sunday and we didn't lose any ground today.

3) Al Leiter did well today.

4) The team made it interesting at the end, just couldn't get one more big hit.

5) Mariano got another day off.

6) The team is going back to the Bronx (where they've done well all season) to face two struggling teams.

[riverside sluggers]

Sox are going to Tampa Bay who they hold a 12-4 advantage over, Yankees face off the Orioles who are 4-6 against them

[Optimist]

Sox are going to Tampa Bay who they hold a 12-4 advantage over, Yankees face off the Orioles who are 4-6 against them

 

The team we're 4 - 6 against, disappeared a few months ago.

 

Last time we faced them, on the eve of their collapse, we swept the two game series.

[riverside sluggers]

yankees havent faced their good rookie pitcher john maine--other side note is that both teams have had injuries today: Sox's 3rd baseman backup Kevin Youkilis might have broken his finger on a groundball, and Yankees' Jaret Wrigt and Jason Giambi both had to leave the game early

[HOFer51]

Sox are going to Tampa Bay who they hold a 12-4 advantage over, Yankees face off the Orioles who are 4-6 against them

Tampa Bay wants to play spoiler, and the Orioles cant win games period.

[riverside sluggers]

Tampa Bay wants to play spoiler, and the Orioles cant win games period.

 

Tampa Bay did try to play spoiler and were swept in 4 games

[HOFer51]

Tampa Bay did try to play spoiler and were swept in 4 games

that was at fenway.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

With the way the Red Sox are hitting (everyone outside of Ortiz and Manny seems to be in a slump) I wouldnt be thumping my chest GOING INTO (Not to Fenway) Tampa Bay. You dont know what your going to get out of Schilling who took a step back in his last start and is facing one of the better offenses in the AL. Your also facing Kazmir who the Sox seem to always struggle against AND hes having one of the best 2nd halfs of any pitcher in the AL (6-2 2.61 ERA 82K'S 3BB). This is no walk in the park for the Red Sox. One more thing also.....in those games at Fenway the Red Sox would fall behind 5-0, 5-1, and 4-2.The Sox needed a comeback in 3 of those 4 games, so those games in Fenway were no walk in the park as they appear.

[yankeessuck013]

Did you see our last start vs kazmir, just cause you can't beat tampa doesn't mean we can't.....

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Did you see our last start vs kazmir, just cause you can't beat tampa doesn't mean we can't.....

One start doesnt change a history of dominence(3.04 ERA this year and 0.00 ERA in 2004. What you said would be just like me saying (Prior to his last start at Yankee stadium)...Well in Tim Wakefield's last start against the Yankees AT fenway he gave up 3 home runs so I expect to hit him just as hard the next time.

[riverside sluggers]

note: you seem to forget last time sox were in tampa, they took 2 out of 3.... Well Tim Wakefield has become a better pitcher than he was in July, he was still a warrior enough to pitch a complete game. Whose to say right off the bat Wakefield will get rocked hard? In September he has been the Ace of the Sox going 4 games (8 innings or more) and an ERA of just 1.73

 

do you honestly expect Sox's offensive slump to continue throughout the rest of the season, ass??? Why dont you go "stop thumping your chest" (by the way thats an immature comment), thinking the Sox will idly just give up for the rest of the season

[riverside sluggers]

This is no walk in the park for the Red Sox. One more thing also.....in those games at Fenway the Red Sox would fall behind 5-0, 5-1, and 4-2.The Sox needed a comeback in 3 of those 4 games, so those games in Fenway were no walk in the park as they appear.

 

what>.. stop right now thats what happened? i um had no idea how those games had went down, thanks for letting me know that any 4 game sweep would still be considered a walk in the park

 

David Wells - career vs Tampa Bay, 10-1 record with a 2.63 ERA (at Tropicana Field 4-1 record with a 3.28 ERA)

this September in 3 games is 2-1 with a 3.74 ERA

 

Curt Schilling- career vs Tampa Bay, 6-4 record with a 4.16 ERA (at Tropicana Field 4-2 record with a 3.25 ERA)

this September in 3 games is 1-2 with a 4.29 ERA

 

Tim Wakefield- career vs Tampa Bay, 13-1 record with a 2.86 ERA (at Tropicana Field 6-0 record with a 1.79 ERA)

this September in 3 games is 1-1 with a 1.73 ERA

 

One start doesnt change a history of dominence

 

wouldnt the same have to be said for David Wells and Tim Wakefield against Tampa Bay, yes I very much think so. Curt Schilling could still pitch like the way he dominated at Yankee Stadium last week, besides the Sox are facing the very hittable Seth McClung that night

[26 to 6]

just because you guys have a winning record over TB this year doesnt mean your guaranteed victory during this series. Just like Baltimore having a winning record over us doesnt guarantee them victory. We play 19 games against a division opponent for a reason.

[riverside sluggers]

i simply saw this comment

 

With the way the Red Sox are hitting (everyone outside of Ortiz and Manny seems to be in a slump) I wouldnt be thumping my chest GOING INTO (Not to Fenway) Tampa Bay. You dont know what your going to get out of Schilling who took a step back in his last start and is facing one of the better offenses in the AL. Your also facing Kazmir who the Sox seem to always struggle against AND hes having one of the best 2nd halfs of any pitcher in the AL (6-2 2.61 ERA 82K'S 3B. This is no walk in the park for the Red Sox. One more thing also.....in those games at Fenway the Red Sox would fall behind 5-0, 5-1, and 4-2.The Sox needed a comeback in 3 of those 4 games, so those games in Fenway were no walk in the park as they appear.

 

and i chose to defend my team. im sorry was i supposed to go through you before i posted the cold hard facts?

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

note: you seem to forget last time sox were in tampa, they took 2 out of 3.... Well Tim Wakefield has become a better pitcher than he was in July, he was still a warrior enough to pitch a complete game. Whose to say right off the bat Wakefield will get rocked hard? In September he has been the Ace of the Sox going 4 games (8 innings or more) and an ERA of just 1.73

 

do you honestly expect Sox's offensive slump to continue throughout the rest of the season, ass??? Why dont you go "stop thumping your chest" (by the way thats an immature comment), thinking the Sox will idly just give up for the rest of the season

How is that an immature comment when you read the thread. You guys are extremly confident for a club who just split a 4 game set AT HOME against the A's who were struggling prior to coming into Fenway. Who said give up? You have to give up to lose ballgames in the majors? Its not just the D-Rays. You guys never give credit to the other ballclub. The fact of the matter here is you guys are struggling and the Yankees are making a charge. Are you going to deny that also? You guys have played in about 29 stright games....its obvious that Varitek and other Sox are gased so I dont know if the offensive slump will continue or not. Whats immature is you and Yankeessuck thinking that you will walk over the rest of the AL when in fact your lead has been cut in half and you have another series left with the Jays and the Yankees both who have given you trouble this year.

[HOFer51]

How is that an immature comment when you read the thread. You guys are extremly confident for a club who just split a 4 game set AT HOME against the A's who were struggling prior to coming into Fenway. Who said give up? You have to give up to lose ballgames in the majors? Its not just the D-Rays. You guys never give credit to the other ballclub. The fact of the matter here is you guys are struggling and the Yankees are making a charge. Are you going to deny that also? You guys have played in about 29 stright games....its obvious that Varitek and other Sox are gased so I dont know if the offensive slump will continue or not. Whats immature is you and Yankeessuck thinking that you will walk over the rest of the AL when in fact your lead has been cut in half and you have another series left with the Jays and the Yankees both who have given you trouble this year.

Yankees? given them trouble? I could have sworn that they had a losing record against the damn yankees.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

what>.. stop right now thats what happened? i um had no idea how those games had went down, thanks for letting me know that any 4 game sweep would still be considered a walk in the park

 

David Wells - career vs Tampa Bay, 10-1 record with a 2.63 ERA (at Tropicana Field 4-1 record with a 3.28 ERA)

this September in 3 games is 2-1 with a 3.74 ERA

 

Curt Schilling- career vs Tampa Bay, 6-4 record with a 4.16 ERA (at Tropicana Field 4-2 record with a 3.25 ERA)

this September in 3 games is 1-2 with a 4.29 ERA

 

Tim Wakefield- career vs Tampa Bay, 13-1 record with a 2.86 ERA (at Tropicana Field 6-0 record with a 1.79 ERA)

this September in 3 games is 1-1 with a 1.73 ERA

 

 

 

wouldnt the same have to be said for David Wells and Tim Wakefield against Tampa Bay, yes I very much think so. Curt Schilling could still pitch like the way he dominated at Yankee Stadium last week, besides the Sox are facing the very hittable Seth McClung that night

I could really care less what Curt Schllings career record is against Tampa. Despite your optmistic view hes not the same pitcher. I also dont want to hear that s*** about his 1 great start in NY. Since when is having 3/4 bad starts considered a good thing? Wakefield is facing Kazmir. Thats a wash and Wells should beat Hendrickson. My point in this whole thread is its no cake walk like you guys are saying. You can take it or leave it. No 4 game sweep is a walk in the park when you have to comeback in 3 of 4 games.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

just because you guys have a winning record over TB this year doesnt mean your guaranteed victory during this series. Just like Baltimore having a winning record over us doesnt guarantee them victory. We play 19 games against a division opponent for a reason.

Thats my whole point in this thread. I really dont have to say anything else.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Yankees? given them trouble? I could have sworn that they had a losing record against the damn yankees.

lmao I hear ya.

[yankeessuck013]

I could really care less what Curt Schllings career record is against Tampa. Despite your optmistic view hes not the same pitcher. I also dont want to hear that s*** about his 1 great start in NY. Since when is having 3/4 bad starts considered a good thing? Wakefield is facing Kazmir. Thats a wash and Wells should beat Hendrickson. My point in this whole thread is its no cake walk like you guys are saying. You can take it or leave it. No 4 game sweep is a walk in the park when you have to comeback in 3 of 4 games.

 

take a glance at wakefields numbers the past 2 weeks.....thats what I thought

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

take a glance at wakefields numbers the past 2 weeks.....thats what I thought

Kazmir for the whole 2nd half: 6-2 2.61 ERA with 82 K's. Wakefield vs Kazmir=wash......Yeah thats what I thought. Why are you even arguing it? Its not like I'm even saying the Red Sox are going to be sweept. All I'm saying is those games will NOT be as easy as some of you make it out to be.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

What looks good on paper, really doesn't mean squat. Its a good match-up, but that's about it. Especially, since the weather conditions can have a serious effect on Wak's knuckler and that's an unknown till game day.

[riverside sluggers]

What looks good on paper, really doesn't mean squat. Its a good match-up, but that's about it. Especially, since the weather conditions can have a serious effect on Wak's knuckler and that's an unknown till game day.

 

the game will be in a domed stadium where Wakefield is basically lights out when playing indoors.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

the game will be in a domed stadium where Wakefield is basically lights out when playing indoors.

Oops, my bad. Doing a tax return while posting, probably isn't a good idea.

[riverside sluggers]

no its cool, but still i find it funny yankee fans are mostly focusing on game 3 against Kazmir, when Sox will have Wakefield who has been the ace for the Sox since August---Tonight is Wells vs Hendrickson, once you see the stats Sox batters have against Hendrickson, littel to believe they will stay in their current offensive slump