will manny get traded in the off season?

[therealsoxGM]

hey who thinks manny is gonna get traded in the off season and what players will boston get for him?

[yeszir]

No.

[BSL63087]

I hope he stays. I think him and Ortiz are a perfect 3-4 combo and without Manny, Ortiz is going to get walked a lot and lose a lot of his value to the team. Hopefully he will decide he would like to stay and we can pick up a good 1st baseman off FA in the off-season

[joe]

hey who thinks manny is gonna get traded in the off season and what players will boston get for him?

 

No.

Also, remember at the end of this season the 5-10 rule applies to him (5 years in the club, 10 years in the majors) so he will have veto power over any trading decision...

[Sox Fan on Cape]

No.

Also, remember at the end of this season the 5-10 rule applies to him (5 years in the club, 10 years in the majors) so he will have veto power over any trading decision...

Manny has already stated that he would like to play in NY someday. He grew up in NY.

[Sizzlin22]

Yeah because we're really going to trade him to New York.

[yankeessuck013]

I say no, I really believe that he wants to stay in boston.

[yankeessuck013]

Yeah because we're really going to trade him to New York.

 

he means the mets.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

he means the mets.

Thank you.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

I say no, I really believe that he wants to stay in boston.

I didn't say Manny wants to be traded. I responsed to the statement that Manny being a 5/10 player would block a trade and merely pointed out that he might not.

[yankeessuck013]

plus, in order for a trade to work we would have to get someone who can put up similar #'s as manny, and that is very unlikely that we will find someone who is on manny's skill level.

 

I wouldn't do anyone from the mets....possibly beltran, wright, reyes,pedro, but they wont trade any of them

 

I like dunn but the reds wont take on manny's contract.....and miguel cabrera is out of thequestion as well as andruw jones.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

plus, in order for a trade to work we would have to get someone who can put up similar #'s as manny, and that is very unlikely that we will find someone who is on manny's skill level.

 

I wouldn't do anyone from the mets....possibly beltran, wright, reyes,pedro, but they wont trade any of them

 

I like dunn but the reds wont take on manny's contract.....and miguel cabrera is out of thequestion as well as andruw jones.

IF, we did a deal with the Mets, itwould be to get salary flexabilty to either resign players ( Damon ) or to get new ones. A trade of Manny would only be triggered if the FO has determined that signing Damon is not possible. With no stellar outfielders on the free agent market, a trade is mandatory. The most likely candidate would be the Mets. Most likely the Mets would trade Cameron ( don'y Beltran with his salary and under perforance ) and some prospects. Wth the extra money and prospects we could get Huff and Paul K. ( free agent ). Overall numbers could be about the same with better defense.

[elsrbueno]

I sincerely hope the Red Sox trade Manny Ramirez.

 

As good a hitter as he is, this taking himself out of games crap has gone too far. Plus, he plays crappily for 3 or 4 games leading up to his necessary off days, which seem to come about every 2 weeks. Even when he's in the game in between his crappy spells, he's a lazy, selfish baseball player who's horrible at defense.

 

No, they can't replace his bat, but at his salary, they could get a good positional player who will give 100%, has some semblance of defensive ability, and can run out a groundball. With the extra money, add a top of the line pitcher.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

I sincerely hope the Red Sox trade Manny Ramirez.

 

As good a hitter as he is, this taking himself out of games crap has gone too far. Plus, he plays crappily for 3 or 4 games leading up to his necessary off days, which seem to come about every 2 weeks. Even when he's in the game in between his crappy spells, he's a lazy, selfish baseball player who's horrible at defense.

 

No, they can't replace his bat, but at his salary, they could get a good positional player who will give 100%, has some semblance of defensive ability, and can run out a groundball. With the extra money, add a top of the line pitcher.

I don't think we're going to have much of a choice. I really believe that there is no way the Sox are going to be held hostage again in negotiations with Boras. The currect ownership is not comfortable with Manny's contract or " Manny being Manny " . The Sox will grab someone to try in fill in for Damon, a corner outfielder, and a power hitting first baseman.

[noonanberg]

I say send him ot the Mets. That way he and his ever so good friend Pedro could be reunited again, and forever gone from the Red Sox. I'm so sick of Manny that I've actually come close to puking. Like Pedro he is the exact opposite of a team player, but Sox fans ignore that because of the numbers. It's pathetic. The Sox can win without either of those two guys and I think it's about time they start trying to.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

I say send him ot the Mets. That way he and his ever so good friend Pedro could be reunited again, and forever gone from the Red Sox. I'm so sick of Manny that I've actually come close to puking. Like Pedro he is the exact opposite of a team player, but Sox fans ignore that because of the numbers. It's pathetic. The Sox can win without either of those two guys and I think it's about time they start trying to.

He could be with alot more than Pedro ( MInk, Dauber, etc ).

[Sizzlin22]

I think we Red Sox fans have been spoiled a little bit. I really don't think we (Red Sox fans) as a group realize what we are watching when we see Manny Ramirez.

 

We are watching one of the best hitters of our time and by far the best right handed hitter of our time. The guy just hits and hits, he's a GAURANTEED .300+/40+/140+ guy a year, not that many players can say that.

 

We don't trade Manny, he makes Ortiz better, he makes the team better. He should not be traded.

[snb988]

If Manny does get traded I'm gonna be scared to see what the Sox can get for him. They get a couple BP arms for him and then you've got one sick ass team.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

I think we Red Sox fans have been spoiled a little bit. I really don't think we (Red Sox fans) as a group realize what we are watching when we see Manny Ramirez.

 

We are watching one of the best hitters of our time and by far the best right handed hitter of our time. The guy just hits and hits, he's a GAURANTEED .300+/40+/140+ guy a year, not that many players can say that.

 

We don't trade Manny, he makes Ortiz better, he makes the team better. He should not be traded.

I think we all know what we got. A tremendous hitter with a mental defeciency.

[yankeessuck013]

I think we Red Sox fans have been spoiled a little bit. I really don't think we (Red Sox fans) as a group realize what we are watching when we see Manny Ramirez.

 

We are watching one of the best hitters of our time and by far the best right handed hitter of our time. The guy just hits and hits, he's a GAURANTEED .300+/40+/140+ guy a year, not that many players can say that.

 

We don't trade Manny, he makes Ortiz better, he makes the team better. He should not be traded.

 

I couldn't agree more.

[Sizzlin22]

A mental deficiancy is not a good enough reason to get rid of a hitter like that.

 

Not to mentio he's not that bad in left, he plays that wall very well.

[yankeessuck013]

Hey TC I enjoy watching your show and even if I think differently about some things at least you are fair. That is I thought so, but you must dislike Manny so much that you are trying to stir up dislike or unhappiness for all of us. I have to admit that sometimes I want to biff him, and when he does things what we consider is wrong I think we should turn our telescope around and try to see his side. All in all I would hate to see him moved away from here. We need him and he really needs us even if he does sometimes say something that is taken out of context. You better hope they do not part with him as I'd rather be on his good side. Can you tell I think he is great? he's like one of my kids. Thanks for listening

Jeannette, Whitman

 

I'm here to listen. I really enjoy Manny -- especially when he's belting out homers. As I said in this space two weeks ago, the Sox gave themselves the best chance to win it all this year by keeping Manny on the team. I still think there's a real chance they will trade him in the off-season, when there is time to use that $20 million dollars to dip into the free-agent pool.

 

Bottom line is this: Manny's a tremendous talent, one of the best hitters in baseball. But, as the second-highest paid player in the game, he should be held to the highest standards possible. He should do it all: hit, field, run, and hustle. The sad truth is, he doesn't do all of that every night.

 

exactly

[Sox Fan on Cape]

A mental deficiancy is not a good enough reason to get rid of a hitter like that.

 

Not to mentio he's not that bad in left, he plays that wall very well.

Only when he feels like it. How many times have we seen a "I'll get to it when I want approach " to playing out there. Don't even quote the assist stats this year ( most are due to Manny's most are due to his attitude as mentioned earlier). At his comphensation ( $ 20 million a year ) I expect a consistent ballplayer. Do you want to compare salary and production to that of Ortiz, where due we get better dollar value. How many days off for David becausebecause he's tired. If he's tired because he's " playing the outfield " then we have a DH at a lot less money and then spend it in more productive overall ways. You're point at Fenway, only applies to half the games and only to balls hit off the Wall, and any compitent outfielder, given time will do as well or better.

[yankeessuck013]

dont get me wrong im one of edgars and nixons biggest fans just hear me out..

 

Nixon -7.5 million a year.

Reneteria- 8 million a year.

Millar- 3.5 million a year.

Bellhorn- 2.75 million a year

 

TOTAL - 21.75 million a year.

 

BUYS WHAT STATS?

 

A total between all four of them...

 

28-HR 164-RBI's .260-AVG.

 

Ramirez -19.8 million a year

 

BUYS WHAT STATS?

 

A total by himself of.....

 

32-HR 113-RBI's .287-AVG.

 

Nixon plays in 89 games, gets injured every year and shares right field with 3 other players and he is labeled a dirt dog.

 

Manny plays in 109 games (on pace to play over 140)

has no other player to really ever substitute for him, and when he takes the day off he's labeled a selfish bum.

[elsrbueno]

dont get me wrong im one of edgars and nixons biggest fans just hear me out..

 

Nixon -7.5 million a year.

Reneteria- 8 million a year.

Millar- 3.5 million a year.

Bellhorn- 2.75 million a year

 

TOTAL - 21.75 million a year.

 

BUYS WHAT STATS?

 

A total between all four of them...

 

28-HR 164-RBI's .260-AVG.

 

Ramirez -19.8 million a year

 

BUYS WHAT STATS?

 

A total by himself of.....

 

32-HR 113-RBI's .287-AVG.

 

Nixon plays in 89 games, gets injured every year and shares right field with 3 other players and he is labeled a dirt dog.

 

Manny plays in 109 games (on pace to play over 140)

has no other player to really ever substitute for him, and when he takes the day off he's labeled a selfish bum.

 

You had to pick Bellhorn and Millar, didn't you?

 

Listen-- I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have a trio like Nixon, Renteria and Mueller than one Manny Ramirez. Manny's selfish attitude and lack of effort KILL this team. Yes, he can hit, but like I said, for $20 million you can not only get a decent hitter, but a pitcher too, and let's face facts: Pitching wins.

 

Superstars do not make winning baseball teams. How many world series championships have Alex Rodriguez, Barry Bonds, and Ken Griffey Jr (possibly the 3 biggest superstars in my lifetime) won combined? None.

 

TEAMS win championships, not superstars. Manny Ramirez' deficiencies which I've already stated outweigh his potent bat (which I'll admit is one of the best I've ever seen) IMO.

 

For $20 million, he's got to be out there every day giving 100%

 

You think Varitek isn't beat up? How about Johnny Damon? Trot Nixon has to be PULLED from the lineup kicking and screaming. Manny Ramirez needs Varitek and Nixon to gang up on him in the locker room and beat him into a bloody pulp-- give him a reason to take his worthless ass out of games.

 

Pssst-- guys-- kick Millar's ass while you're at it too, because that's the only way we'll see him on the bench.

 

OK-- all violent jokes aside, Manny Ramirez has no idea how good he has it. He gets $20 million dollars a year to play a GAME, and he doesn't even have to work the whole year. He gets 6 months in the offseason to rest. PLAY THE f***ING GAME.

[riverside sluggers]

i was checking stats, and he he has had 5 requested off games in the past 18

[ORS]

3 of those were when he was sat by Tito against the Twins right before the deadline.

[riverside sluggers]

actually about 1 1/2 he was sat by tito, game 1 he played which is where he was booed by the fenway faithful, game 2 out of lineup for whole game, then game 3 came as the pinch hitter in the 8th inning

[MC Hammer]

If you want to get rid of Manny then we might as well trade Ortiz too because all he's going to see is intentional walks. Manny is hitting behind Ortiz for a reason. That reason being, atleast I think, because Ortiz does not have a great eye at the plate. So, putting Manny behind him will lead to him seeing more pitches in the strike zone. If you take Manny out of this lineup Ortiz will not hit 40 HRs ... he will not drive in 140. Simply put without Manny, Ortiz is not Ortiz. Without Manny Ortiz is Barry Bonds, only seeing pitches when the bases are empty. Do you really think teams are going to pitch to Ortiz because they're scared a Mike Cameron? Come on. Not to mention how money Manny is in the playoffs.

 

Trading Manny to keep Damon makes no sense to me what so ever. Resigning Johnny doesn't make a whole lot of sense to begin with. Although Johnny is having a great year, his days as a lead off hitter are numbered, while Manny still has years left to play in the OF ... then probably several more as a DH. Damon may help the team for, maybe another 2 years, where as Manny can still contribute for several more years. Once Johnny is no longer effective in the leadoff spot he has very little value in a lineup. He has average range, a weak arm, and he's going to continue losing a step or 2 every year. I don't see why you would let one of the best right handed hitters of all time go, so you can keep a guy thats going to be worthless for the last 3/4 years of his contract. I would rather pay manny 40 million than trade him and resign Johnny for the 6 years he's asking for.

[sarasoxfan]

the f***ing guy just was player of the week the other week, and then it wa s oritz, I cant believe that people forget things like that..

 

you have millar in there smelling like a pile of s***, that's where the rage should be directed..manny wins games, and hits the s*** out of the ball, I''d rather have manny sit against the tigers than the angels and have him fresh for the stretch.

 

poeple are just waiting to attack manny, and while he isnt a rocket scientist than man can hit and impacts the entire line-up...

period.

 

there are some players so desperate to get in the line up that they play even when they hurt the team..we could have won yesterday iif certain players could do more than hit into double plays, it's difficult to win also when you spot any tieam 5 f***ing runs in the frist two innings, whether manny is the line up or not.