Soriano to RED SOX?

[Ringo]

That package deal of Arroyo, Shoppach, Alvarez, and Stern could be used maybe in some kind of a three team deal between us, texas, and philly. WE could get WAGNER AND SORIANO!!! that would be sweet!!1

[soxie thefangirl]

I want Stern to stay. He's speedy, which is something we lack a lot of the time.

 

I dislike Soriano.

[riverside sluggers]

i like stern so much, its just fact of the matter is with gabe kapler coming back to the sox, probably to the majors by next month. thered be no room for a 5th outfielder and even if Sox were to send Stern down to triple A, Atalnta would snatch him up easily anyway.

[soxie thefangirl]

I don't know how smart it would be to send Stern now or trade him. We may need him. He's speedy like Roberts was.

[riverside sluggers]

how can we have a 5th outfielder, hard to give him and kapler good number of at bats and playing time. On WEEI yesterday, Theo Epstein had said Gabe Kapler will be back in roughly 3 weeks.

[elsrbueno]

how can we have a 5th outfielder, hard to give him and kapler good number of at bats and playing time. On WEEI yesterday, Theo Epstein had said Gabe Kapler will be back in roughly 3 weeks.

 

We had both Kap and Roberts last year-- so it's doable.

 

I agree with Soxie. Having Stern's speed on the bench is a dynamic the Red Sox desperately need, especially given how freaking slow this entire team is.

[bigpapi349]

twins-david bell,cora...

phillies-alvarez,shoppach,other prsospect

redsox-soriano,wagner or romero

rangers,arroyo,stern,prospect

 

idk some crazy trade :dunno:

[riverside sluggers]

thats right, my bad--to make room for kapler, theyd have to send somebody down from the bullpen then

[Sox Fan on Cape]

Stern is a Rule Five player, can't trade him and can't send him down. Very simply play him or lose him. Until he can show great base stealing ability ( which he hasn't ) . He's nothing more than a Donnie Sadler , et al. The fastest they have but not one of the best ( ala Roberts ).

[riverside sluggers]

Stern is a Rule Five player, can't trade him and can't send him down. Very simply play him or lose him. Until he can show great base stealing ability ( which he hasn't ) . He's nothing more than a Donnie Sadler , et al. The fastest they have but not one of the best ( ala Roberts ).

 

:what: in his very first game, he beat out the double play and then stole a base right after that agaisnt the orioles

[Tek4pres]

Stern is a Rule Five player, can't trade him and can't send him down. Very simply play him or lose him. Until he can show great base stealing ability ( which he hasn't ) . He's nothing more than a Donnie Sadler , et al. The fastest they have but not one of the best ( ala Roberts ).

 

There are a few wrinkles that allow a drafting team (Red Sox) to take other action on a player besides keeping him on the major league roster, the easiest one being sending another player to the Braves. Once this is done, the Sox could send Stern down to the Pawtucket. The Braves may do this rather than taking Stern back because Stern would have to clear waivers before he went back to the Braves at which point any team with a worse record could take Stern and keep him as long as he was on the major league roster.

 

Once this is done, I am guessing that the Sox would own his rights and be able to trade him away. Though I'm not exactly sure on that point.

[Soxfan1]

I really like soriano. I'd love too get him. I really wouldn't like to give up arroyo then and also schill would have to be ready to replace arroyo. So I don't see it happening, sadly.

[26 to 6]

I'd love to have Soriano..but i def would not trade Hanley for him!!! Plus we have bigger problems than second base!!1 We need a GOD DAMN CLOSER!!! I say trade one of the starters to get say...BILLY WAGNER. Then put Schilling back where he belongs..in the starting rotation.

no way you guys get Soriano without trading Hanley, simple as that

[26 to 6]

Stern is a Rule Five player, can't trade him and can't send him down. Very simply play him or lose him. Until he can show great base stealing ability ( which he hasn't ) . He's nothing more than a Donnie Sadler , et al. The fastest they have but not one of the best ( ala Roberts ).

right forgot about that, shouldnt have included him in that hypothetical package i posted earlier

[See Red]

I don't see the problem with shipping away Stern's speed when we'd be bringing in a man that's had atleast 35 steals three times in his career.

[riverside sluggers]

i dont think at all that now sox have tony G on the roster, wont be looking at soriano

[Manny Goes Boom]

Second base wasnt the big problem anyway (even though I have complained about Bellhorn), it's pitching, so I say if we make a big trade it better be for pitching

[schillingouttheks]

Well Graffanino did pretty good today. Got plunked, a double..1-3 on the day. Not too shabby. Definitely better than Blowhorn

[riverside sluggers]

the 3 main players i see sox goin after are burnett, wagner, and romero

[bigpapi349]

Soriano may follow A-Rod out

 

By KATHLEEN O'BRIEN

 

Star-Telegram Staff Writer

 

 

The Yankees depart from Texas tonight, taking with them the Rangers' former marquee player in Alex Rodriguez. They leave behind Alfonso Soriano, who once thought he would be a Yankee for life.

 

Those times, of Rodriguez as an MVP winner in Texas and Soriano as an MVP candidate in New York, are memories. Just as Soriano in a Texas uniform could soon be a thing of the past.

 

Seventeen months ago, the Rangers swapped Rodriguez for Soriano, minor league shortstop Joaquin Arias and significant relief on Rodriguez's 10-year, $252 million contract. In a rarity for a trade of that magnitude, everyone got what they wanted. At least until now, because the looming question is whether Soriano will remain a Ranger past the July 31st trading deadline.

 

In the trade that was:

 

Rodriguez got out of Texas and excelled on baseball's biggest stage.

 

The Rangers escaped from most of Rodriguez's contract and had their best season since 1999.

 

The Yankees made a huge splash in acquiring one of baseball's best players.

 

And Soriano, the only reluctant party at the time, has come to embrace Texas and hopes to spend his entire career here.

 

"If it were up to me, I would like to be here," Soriano said, "with this young team and these guys. But you never know where you're going to play, or if they'll want to keep me."

 

Soriano might not get his wish to stay, because the Rangers need to add pitching if they hope to make the playoffs. Since they want to cling to their top minor league prospects, Soriano is likely their best trade chip.

 

Soriano's production in the past four years outranks every second baseman except perhaps the Dodgers' Jeff Kent. Yet he frustrates the Rangers with shoddy defense or by failing to run out hit balls. Perhaps most importantly, Soriano is making $7.4 million and will earn a raise through arbitration. And a potential replacement -- Ian Kinsler -- is at Triple A Oklahoma.

 

Rangers general manager John Hart has repeatedly said of Soriano: "We like him; we're not looking to trade him." But dealing Soriano might be the best way to improve the team. Soriano is aware of the trade talk, and it's nothing new.

 

"When I was with the Yankees, from the minor leagues until now, my name always comes up in trade rumors," Soriano said. "I wish I knew why."

 

Whether Soriano remains in Texas or not, he has been a bargain for the Rangers so far.

 

"Obviously Sori's been a great player for us," Rangers owner Tom Hicks said, "and I think, given us the ability, the financial flexibility that I can say yes to a trade, if [money is] all it takes to bring in a player. ... I think [the Rodriguez-Soriano trade] is a win-win. I think it was the right thing for Alex, and I think it was the right thing for the Texas Rangers."

 

In Soriano's first year in Texas, the Rangers won 16 more games than they did in any of Rodriguez's three seasons here. Soriano's statistics don't match Rodriguez's, but no one expected that. And Soriano's personality might mesh better with his teammates than Rodriguez's did.

 

"[sori] has a different personality -- he's more of a playful person," Rangers third baseman Hank Blalock said. "Alex is more serious. Both very talented players, obviously. ... The only reason why I wasn't really disappointed [about the trade] is because of what we were getting in return in Soriano."

 

Good luck finding a Rangers player who will say anything bad about Soriano, on or off the record. No one could ever knock Rodriguez's talent or his play. Yet there were occasional whispers about him being a difficult and demanding teammate for such a young club.

 

Rangers outfielder Kevin Mench, who still keeps in touch with Rodriguez, might have put it best: "Alex needed to be in the media market of the world. He's the biggest star and the best player, so that's where he needed to be."

 

Now he is, and he could not be happier, even if he had to give up playing shortstop to get to New York.

 

"It's been a dream come true for me to become a Yankee," Rodriguez said.

 

And if Rodriguez had known the Rangers would come within three games of the playoffs last year, without his help -- would he have stayed?

 

"You don't have a crystal ball," Rodriguez said. "I think having the opportunity to come to New York is a once in a lifetime opportunity I would never have passed up."

 

Rodriguez said he considers his time in Texas the best of his career. So does Soriano.

 

Ironic. Both might soon have that in common -- being ex-Rangers with fond memories of their time in Texas.

[YankeeDoodle]

Sori has indicated that he would love to return to the Yankees - now that Cano's brought up, I don't think that's a feasible option.

 

Oh Monday's game reminds me...he always did hit one of the LOOOONGEST singles seen!

 

That aside, he seems to be a good guy, and I doubt there'll be that outrage shown at A-Rod.

[bigpapi349]

sori sayd hed play CF for the yankees but the rangers want pitching in return and the yankees have 0 pitching to trade

[YankeeDoodle]

^ Yeah I know...he really wants to be in pinstripes again.

 

How about we swap him and Womack? C'mon now Rangers...

[bigpapi349]

womacks a bum the yankees would need to trade wang, melky cabrera and probaly womack to get him

[YankeeDoodle]

womacks a bum the yankees would need to trade wang, melky cabrera and probaly womack to get him

LOL, I was joking! The Rangers kinda remind me of the Yankees; they're both horrible at pitching, but have some bat power (when not facing the A's). Go figure that the Yankees score two runs on the night Chan Ho Park is pitching. <_>

 

Wang's not moving; he can't pitch now and plus if he gets better by next seasson (if not sooner, but it sounds bad), there's already spot on next year's rotation.