The problem is Shaughnessy and....

[schmenga]

Gammons and Jackie etc...(regardless of spelling).

 

Treating one world series title in modern history (as a wild card at that (meaning no playoffs absent a wild card)) as somehow making things Yankees 1, Boston 1A.

 

Runaway?

 

Please.

 

(old poster here...just new name)

 

In my lifetime (born 1966), by pennants.

 

1- NYYankees, 10 pennants, 6 titles.

2- Oakland A's 6 pennants, 4 titles.

3- Baltimore 6 pennants, 3 titles.

4- LA Dodgers 6 pennants, 2 titles.

4- St. Louis Cards 6 pennants, 2 titles.

6- Cincinnati Reds, 5 pennants, 3 titles.

7- Atlanta Braves, 5 pennants, 1 title.

8- NY Mets, 4 pennants, 2 titles.

9- Boston, 4 pennants, 1 title.

10- Philadelphia, 3 pennants, 1 title.

 

By titles...

1- NYYankees 6

2- Oakland 4

3- Baltimore 3

4- Cincy 3

5- St. Louis 2

5- LA Dodgers 2

7- NY Mets 2

8- Detroit 2

8- Minnesota 2

8- Toronto 2

8- Pittsburgh 2

8- Florida 2

13- Atlanta 1

14- Boston 1

15- Philly 1

16- KC 1

17- Anaheim 1

18- Arizona 1

 

The A's, Orioles, Dodgers, Cardinals, Braves and Reds are more historic.

The Mets arguably so in my lifetime.

 

Outside of Boston and ESPN, the Red Sox are far from 1A.

 

Stop stuffing it.

 

And maybe the ijits will play better.

[BoSox21]

I think it's more the fact that Boston has been so consistently good over the past several years and in the past 7 years, as far as the division goes, it has been New York and Boston 1 and 2. Also the fact that both teams have produced 2 straight classic ALCSs

 

besides, having the Yankees and Red Sox battle it out every year is easily the best thing the sport has going for it

[schmenga]

in the past 7 years, as far as the division goes, it has been New York and Boston 1 and 2.

 

This part is true.

 

In the division Boston has been second. Often distant.

 

And the last 2 alcs were very close.

 

The Yankees on top is good for baseball.

 

If 1999 to the present is enough history for you, good enough.

 

Likely is good enough for Anaheim, Florida and Arizona too.

 

Boston has been decent. Very good last year.

 

That's about it.

 

I gather you are young.

[Sox fan in Tex]

Please tell me this isn't a thread about what you've done in the past.... congrats on the 20 championships (just a guess) that you've won prior to my lifetime, but it's over. 1999 to the present is enough history for me. For instance: I'm not going to go brag to Astros fans about the World Series that we won in 1918 or 2004 because they don't have one yet.... see, us Red Sox fans look at it year by year and now last years over, and we're ahead of you again this year. Congats on having 26, but you haven't done anything for in a few years, and if that's alright for you, then let it be that way.

[BoSox21]

Yankees vs. Red Sox is great for baseball. Red Sox becoming the only team ever to come back from an 0-3 deficit to beat their hated rivals is great for baseball. Red Sox finally breaking the most famous curse and championship drought in professional sports is great for baseball. and what's great for baseball is what keeps putting food on Peter Gammons' plate so regardless of whether it's perception or reality, that's the way it is

[mosox]

Who cares what anyone writes, or what the rest of the country, including NY thinks. I'm happy.

[Yanksin2010]

Did Gammons get a ring?

[schmenga]

Please tell me this isn't a thread about what you've done in the past.... congrats on the 20 championships (just a guess) that you've won prior to my lifetime, but it's over. 1999 to the present is enough history for me. For instance: I'm not going to go brag to Astros fans about the World Series that we won in 1918 or 2004 because they don't have one yet.... see, us Red Sox fans look at it year by year and now last years over, and we're ahead of you again this year. Congats on having 26, but you haven't done anything for in a few years, and if that's alright for you, then let it be that way.

 

 

You miss the point.

 

In ultra modern history the Bosox have been competitive, definitely behind the Yankees and others but they have been competitive.

 

It is ESPN and the Gammons' and the like that are force feeding us the historic nature of the Bosox, most of which is hyperbole from a traditional standpoint.

 

If we are only looking at right now, last I checked, NYork and Baltimore shoved Bosto n around.

 

The myopic Boston media really believes that HISTORICALLY, NYork is 1, and Boston is 1A. Your younger fans believe even over the last 7 years that is the same. It is not. In either case. Boston equals Anaheim in ultra modern history, and is a clear trailer of the above mentioned teams from a historic persepective, a historic persepctive that sports fans such as myself have forced upon us too often by ESPN types.

 

ESPN tells you and promotes events as important because in many cases they broadcast them. Sometimes they are correct...last year's Yankee melt down was historic. Sometimes they are incorrect..

 

Unless you younger generations made the ESPY's appointment TV.

[Tek4pres]

You miss the point.

 

In ultra modern history the Bosox have been competitive, definitely behind the Yankees and others but they have been competitive.

 

It is ESPN and the Gammons' and the like that are force feeding us the historic nature of the Bosox, most of which is hyperbole from a traditional standpoint.

 

If we are only looking at right now, last I checked, NYork and Baltimore shoved Bosto n around.

 

The myopic Boston media really believes that HISTORICALLY, NYork is 1, and Boston is 1A. Your younger fans believe even over the last 7 years that is the same. It is not. In either case. Boston equals Anaheim in ultra modern history, and is a clear trailer of the above mentioned teams from a historic persepective, a historic persepctive that sports fans such as myself have forced upon us too often by ESPN types.

 

ESPN tells you and promotes events as important because in many cases they broadcast them. Sometimes they are correct...last year's Yankee melt down was historic. Sometimes they are incorrect..

 

Unless you younger generations made the ESPY's appointment TV.

 

It comes down to money. The media is trying to make some for themselves, and both the Red Sox and the Yankees have it. Yet if you want to talk about ultra modern history, the Yankees have had the highest payroll in baseball for sometime now and still don't know how to use it. They've got a depleted farm system with no signs of turning things around, an aging team which they'll have to overhaul by overpaying for free agents and have lost four years in a row to teams that you classify as unsuccessful on a historical scale. Boston used to be a team that was haunted by the history of a move that one dumb executive made. But we've moved on and now it's the Yankee fans who are clinging to history. Not only are we running neck and neck with you now, but we're turning into a great developmental organization on top of being a successful organization now. So while you guys keep trading for and signing injury prone veterans, we'll keep building from the bottom while keeping the Major League team strong. If I were the Yankees, I'd better hope we win now, because resource wise you're about to get outclassed by that "historically" unsuccessful organization you seem obsessed with.

 

Keep your history. We'll take the future.

[vegassoxfan]

amazing how many yankee fans have showed up today. just get all your posts in now cause the royals and those pesky tampa bay devil dogs are right around the corner on the schedule and then we wont here from you again. that being said the yankees have been hitting home runs on an amazing pace which has gotten you back in the race for the division. and i wouldnt want it any other way.

[vegassoxfan]

i hope it comes down to the last series of the year. so those "espn types" can hype it even more

[stocker323]

i hope it comes down to the last series of the year. so those "espn types" can hype it even more

I do too, I don't want 3 Sox-Yankee games at the end of the season to turn out to be meaningless.