Are the yankees out of the race?

[soxie thefangirl]

I'm still scared of the Yankees. One would have to be silly not to be scared of them, given their history.

[YANKEESRULE]

The Yankees are only 3.5 games back in the division and only 2 games back from the wild card. The only team that will give us problems in the 2nd half is the Angels. Texas is coming back to reality, the twins are struggling the White Sox could give us trouble its hard to say since we haven't played them yet. Red Sox bullpen is a mess and there starters are not as dominate in games like they were in the first half except Clement. Baltimore has too many injuries and there strters can't last more theen a inning. With Giambi hitting again and our rookies stepping up it looks good for the Yankees.

[soxie thefangirl]

I realize this. But I think we're one of the teams you'll have trouble with.

[ORS]

The Yankees are only 3.5 games back in the division and only 2 games back from the wild card. The only team that will give us problems in the 2nd half is the Angels. Texas is coming back to reality, the twins are struggling the White Sox could give us trouble its hard to say since we haven't played them yet. Red Sox bullpen is a mess and there starters are not as dominate in games like they were in the first half except Clement. Baltimore has too many injuries and there strters can't last more theen a inning. With Giambi hitting again and our rookies stepping up it looks good for the Yankees.

I posted the schedule, and I suggest you look at it a little closer. They don't play a team with a losing record until August 15. You have 3 starters in your rotation with Wright, Brown, and Pavano out. That could make Texas, Baltimore, and Cleveland give you a harder time than you think. I stress the word "could". Nobody KNOWS what is going to happen, but I think your quick dismissal of the inherent danger in your schedule speaks volumes of your naivete.

 

naivete-the state or quality of being inexperienced or unsophisticated, especially in being artless, credulous, or uncritical.

 

Yeah, that word pretty much sums you up.

[CrespoBlows]

The Yankees are only 3.5 games back in the division and only 2 games back from the wild card. The only team that will give us problems in the 2nd half is the Angels. Texas is coming back to reality, the twins are struggling the White Sox could give us trouble its hard to say since we haven't played them yet. Red Sox bullpen is a mess and there starters are not as dominate in games like they were in the first half except Clement. Baltimore has too many injuries and there strters can't last more theen a inning. With Giambi hitting again and our rookies stepping up it looks good for the Yankees.

 

Look, you're in for a serious reality check.

 

The Yankees need to get at least two guys in the bullpen, and at least another starter. Wang has a 3.28 K/9 which doesn't bode well for future sucess in the AL. Ask Mr. Pavano how that worked for him, but his was 1 K higher.

 

Your bullpen is in rougher shape then the Red Sox, you only have two guys that can get outs Rivera, and Gordon. Other than that, do you trust Wayne Franklin to get Ortiz out?

 

Your rotation is awful, other than Johnson, and Mussina. Your other starters are Wang, Small and Sturtze, that's f***ing pathetic.

[YANKEESRULE]

Records mean nothing when a team is hitting. Wild Card teams winning last 3 series proves that. With Giambi hiting our lineup is unstopable. He's no longer a automatic out. he is not only hitting but when he gets a hit he drives in runs. He had two hits last night that scored runs. our pitching is coming around Wang is sick, wright coming back off the DL. Plus we haven't made that blockbuster trade yet. I understand what your saying about teams with losing records and all that, but we have a winning record so all the teams that play us will be playing a team with a winning record. I know you don't want to admit it that the Yanks may turn this around and have looked better as of late. I think we will win the series against Cleveland. I don't think you'll win the series against Baltimore. Sosa is starting to come around a little bit. The O's are tough at home. You could split but I think the O's will win the series. I just hope for your sakes that this clubhouse turmoil you guys are having won't effect your playing. In my case I hope it does. I may be a little niave, but so are you thinking the Sox will run away with the division. Because we have all (Yanks,O's, and Jay's) gave you plenty of time. They just didn't or couldn't do it. it's hard when you only win 2 games at home in two series. Yes I admit the ray's have given us fits this year. but, both the Jay's and the O's have given you fits this year. Your niave in thinking the Yankees will go away. its O.K. your a sox fan and you always worry about what the yankees do than what your own team does.

[ORS]

Records mean nothing when a team is hitting. Wild Card teams winning last 3 series proves that. With Giambi hiting our lineup is unstopable. He's no longer a automatic out. he is not only hitting but when he gets a hit he drives in runs. He had two hits last night that scored runs. our pitching is coming around Wang is sick, wright coming back off the DL. Plus we haven't made that blockbuster trade yet. I understand what your saying about teams with losing records and all that, but we have a winning record so all the teams that play us will be playing a team with a winning record. I know you don't want to admit it that the Yanks may turn this around and have looked better as of late. I think we will win the series against Cleveland. I don't think you'll win the series against Baltimore. Sosa is starting to come around a little bit. The O's are tough at home. You could split but I think the O's will win the series. I just hope for your sakes that this clubhouse turmoil you guys are having won't effect your playing. In my case I hope it does. I may be a little niave, but so are you thinking the Sox will run away with the division. Because we have all (Yanks,O's, and Jay's) gave you plenty of time. They just didn't or couldn't do it. it's hard when you only win 2 games at home in two series. Yes I admit the ray's have given us fits this year. but, both the Jay's and the O's have given you fits this year. Your niave in thinking the Yankees will go away. its O.K. your a sox fan and you always worry about what the yankees do than what your own team does.

Your statement about me being naive would be true if your supporting statements were correct; however, they aren't. I never once said the Yankees were out of it, nor did I say that we would run away with it. I maintain that your inability to critically analyze the situation concerning the Yankees rotation and schedule destroys any possibility of you sounding credible. Consequently, you need not worry, for I have determined that responding to your posts is an utter waste of my time and energy.

[CrespoBlows]

You might want to add paragraphs, and commas so I can respond to that.

 

What the f***? "Records mean nothing when a team is hitting" So if the Royals hit .500 the next 3 days it doesn't matter that their 28.5 games out?

 

Your lineup still isn't unstoppable, now that Giambi has pressure on him again, will he rise to the occasion or fade away, I really don't know. But Giambi is a good guy to have in your lineup because he gets on base. Cano is overrated with his .315 OBP, and Caberra is unproven.

 

Wang is sick? He can't strike anyone out, and Wright will hurt your team more then he'll help it.

 

I don't see what player your going to get, you have no prospects, and the ones you have are already in the bigs, and won't be traded.

 

The Yankees did this before, but can they sustain it? Momentum is as only good as your next day's starting pitcher, in this case unless your rotation looks like Johnson, Moose, Johnson, Moose, your current rotation won't carry you far.

 

As for the Red Sox running away with it, if Foulke were merely bad, the Sox would be 7 games up. We'll get there when Mr. Schilling gets in the closers role, and I think we fixed our clubhouse problem Damon backed off his comments, and Payton is gone.

 

Just think about it, the Sox are in first place with no ace, and no closer, shouldn't we be making excuses instead of the Yankees? If you couldn't catch us without Schilling, and without a bullpen, what makes you think you will now? Bradford is on the way from Oakland, Schilling is headed to be a the closer. (and for those who think starters can't be closers does John Smoltz ring a bell?) Let's just play worst case scernerio if Schilling can't do it, Timlin can and that should put the Red Sox way ahead in the division.

 

Our bullpen will be sick in August, with Schilling at closer, Foulke in setup (he's been good in non save situations) along with Timlin, Bradford, Myers, Papelbon, and Declarman it won't be much of a contest.

[elsrbueno]

First of all, the Yankees are NOT out of it. Why? They're only 4 games out and both the Boston Red Sox and Baltimore Orioles have big holes. However, the confidence YANKEESRULE is expressing is downright sickening. Your "ace" is only 8-6 with a 4.14 ERA. Backing him up is Mike Mussina's 9-5 record, 3.97 ERA. Wang has been one of your best pitchers, but considering that he has a 28:19 (less than 2:1) strikeout to walk ratio, and 3.3 K's/9, and he's given up 72 hits in 76 innings. He has in no way dominated the opposition this season. In fact, if you include the 6 batters he's hit, he has struck out 28, but given free passes to 25. That doesn't bode well.

 

Jaret Wright's coming back? With an ERA over 9 and 36 hits in 19 innings pitched... you must be so excited. Kevin Brown? 91 hits in 65 innings. The Yankees are better off WITHOUT these guys. Carl Pavano has yet to earn his paycheck either, as he's 4-6 with a 4.77 ERA.

 

Mussina's your most reliable starter, and in 3 starts against us, he's 0-2. In 14 innings, he's given up 11 earned runs (14 total). That's an ERA over 7.

 

Your bullpen is basically Rivera and Gordon, and BOTH of which have a hard time beating the Red Sox.

 

I predicted that the Yankees would win the division, and as I've been saying all along they are not out of the race-- not by a long shot. But the fact that you expect this team with no pitching to just walk all over the rest of the American League is amazing. The hitting is hot right now, but the Yankees have been so streaky this season. You had a devastating offense last year and no pitching, and where did it get you?

[YANKEESRULE]

it got us to the ALCS. The statement I said about records don't matter is this if a team that has a losing record starts to hit and win games doesn't meant they will win the whole thing. The Yankees are 5 games above .500 and if they are starting to hit and win then making up a 3.5 games behind lead is not impossible. The thing is this if you let the Yankees hang around after we go on two losing slumps this season and only are 3.5 games back the Yankees will take advantage. We have seen it so many times before. don't give me this s*** about this year they are 2 old. The way I look at it now they are getting younger with 3 rookies playing. Face the facts that the yankees are not done and they will be there in the end and will be playing in October. Schilling in the bullpen is not the answer either. Smoltz is a better pitcher than Schilling and has more talent in his pinky than loud mouth has. I truly believe schill's post season is what will end his career. he may have good games left in him but when you tear up your ankle the one you use to pitch with it won't make you that effective. It may boost morale, but i don't think schilling will be the savoir. plus schilling won't be able to let Clement be the stud in the rotation. look what happened with pedro. He will get jealous and start to whine. That's why he left Arizona he couldn't stand being the #2 guy. When Randy and Schilling face off for the first time we will see what a #2 guy Schilling really is.

[elsrbueno]

it got us to the ALCS. The statement I said about records don't matter is this if a team that has a losing record starts to hit and win games doesn't meant they will win the whole thing. The Yankees are 5 games above .500 and if they are starting to hit and win then making up a 3.5 games behind lead is not impossible. The thing is this if you let the Yankees hang around after we go on two losing slumps this season and only are 3.5 games back the Yankees will take advantage. We have seen it so many times before. don't give me this s*** about this year they are 2 old. The way I look at it now they are getting younger with 3 rookies playing. Face the facts that the yankees are not done and they will be there in the end and will be playing in October. Schilling in the bullpen is not the answer either. Smoltz is a better pitcher than Schilling and has more talent in his pinky than loud mouth has. I truly believe schill's post season is what will end his career. he may have good games left in him but when you tear up your ankle the one you use to pitch with it won't make you that effective. It may boost morale, but i don't think schilling will be the savoir. plus schilling won't be able to let Clement be the stud in the rotation. look what happened with pedro. He will get jealous and start to whine. That's why he left Arizona he couldn't stand being the #2 guy. When Randy and Schilling face off for the first time we will see what a #2 guy Schilling really is.

 

 

Tell you what. I'll take last year's results EVERY SINGLE season. Your basis of confidence has very little to do with the actual talent on the field. All you did was site that the Yankees have come from behind in the past (and that automatically means they will come back this year?!?). Schilling as a reliever is a band-aid until Foulke comes back. Everybody knows that.

 

Earth to Yankee fans: We're in first place WITHOUT Schilling. Why would we need him to be a savior?!?

[yeszir]

I'm not scared, but I'm not comfortable either. That about sums it up for me at this point.

[riverside sluggers]

hey all im looking at it, taking one game at a time--if i look at things long term, ill be cocky and ignorant as YANKEESRULE. yankees still do need to fill some holes. and dude our bullpen is changing just about each day, and sox have already done with foulke and mantei both out for what im thinking is rest of the season, and that will help since reinforcements are coming in. Now with Giambi, he "all of a sudden is starting to hit like he use to" i got ten bucks that says he found out he sucks without the roids, and asked sheffield to spot him some

[ARod2212]

Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.. How about we just let them play the games. They're not done, unless everyone 3+ games out in July is done.

[ORS]

Blah blah blah, blah blah blah.. How about we just let them play the games. They're not done, unless everyone 3+ games out in July is done.

Just let them play the games? Sounds like you don't think we should talk about it. Funny, since you posted that in a discussion forum. If that's how you truly feel, then why do you bother to post?

[Sox fan in Tex]

Because the Yankees have won a few games, tek_me_out_to_the..., that's when they decide to bug us with stupid comments. I mean, when was the last time you saw YANKEESRULE on? When you see him on, you know the Yanks have won a couple and the Sox are playing average.

[JeterWifey213]

3.5 behind as tough as our schedule is we will win games. We may not have the pitching but everything is working right now. The team is riding a streak and slowly but surely we are climbing. As much as you guys say that you guys aren’t worried, you can hear us coming. All we need to do is get back some of our pitchers. If you guys have faith in your team, so do we. As long as we keep our end of the deal going, we have nothing to worry. You guys are getting Schilling to close, one of the best pitchers. Closing a game is nothing like starting, how do you know that he won’t implode? See you in Boston!

[ORS]

JeterWifey213, your sig is like asking me "Why don't you like me?", while pissing on my leg.

[JeterWifey213]

LMAO that is the best I have heard about the sig. Last time I got called an idiot.

[Sox fan in Tex]

The real difference between Boston and New York, is a World Series of recently, the number of All-Stars/talent, and ball grabbing (or slapping), steroid using, cheaters play in New York.

 

P.S. The last time you were begging to see the Sox, JetersWifey, you were EMBARRASSED by David Wells and outscored by 16 in another game. Now you WANT to come to our place? You can't beat us in New York, how are you going to come close in Boston?

[JeterWifey213]

I wasn't BEGGING to see any one all I said is that Yanks will be seeing the Sox. What is it with you and your feeling of superiority? It was only last year your team FINALLY beat mine, you call Yankee fans arrogant but you are proving to be the same.

 

And your sig amuses me, cause many of your fellow fans were ripping Edgar a new a couple of weeks ago.

[Tek4pres]

I wasn't BEGGING to see any one all I said is that Yanks will be seeing the Sox. What is it with you and your feeling of superiority? It was only last year your team FINALLY beat mine, you call Yankee fans arrogant but you are proving to be the same.

 

And your sig amuses me, cause many of your fellow fans were ripping Edgar a new a couple of weeks ago.

 

What's more arrogant: talking trash about your rival amongst your own fan base or creating an account on your rivals site, baiting them and then calling them arrogant because they tell you what they think of you?

[BellhornLove]

No... Yankees are never out. We may dislike them and Bash them but the truth is... Never count the Yankees out.

[JeterWifey213]

What's more arrogant: talking trash about your rival amongst your own fan base or creating an account on your rivals site, baiting them and then calling them arrogant because they tell you what they think of you?

 

You really amuse me. I wasn't baiting anyone, I expressed my opinion that is all. I don't really care what you guys think of me or my team. As long as I am having fun ( which I am) on this site. Most of the people here are civil and know what they are talking about. If it bothers you that I am here, well that is your problem. Good Wishes to all.

[ORS]

3.5 behind as tough as our schedule is we will win games. We may not have the pitching but everything is working right now. The team is riding a streak and slowly but surely we are climbing. As much as you guys say that you guys aren’t worried, you can hear us coming. All we need to do is get back some of our pitchers. If you guys have faith in your team, so do we. As long as we keep our end of the deal going, we have nothing to worry. You guys are getting Schilling to close, one of the best pitchers. Closing a game is nothing like starting, how do you know that he won’t implode? See you in Boston!

I don't think you are taking into account how important pitching is going to be during this stretch in your schedule. Not only do all the teams you play have a winning record, but they are hitting the heck out of the ball right now.

 

Sure, Moose and the Unit will get you some wins during that month, but what happens if they have an off game (like they have each done more than once this year)?

 

Wang's been serviceable, but very hittable too. He's managed to wiggle out of several innings where it looked like crooked numbers were about to go up.

 

That's 3 starters. May started today (1st start) and served up 3 shots of "Jack" in a 7 ER, 4 1/3 IP performance. Sturtze is your other spot starter, and he got creamed in his first start against the O's.

 

Wright and Pavano are close to coming back, but they have been extremely hittable this year, so that wouldn't fill me with confidence.

 

I'm concerned. Concerned about how we play, how you play, and how the O's and Jay's play. I'm confident too. We have a good squad, and if we can find consistant relief out of someone (Timlin, Schilling, whoever), I think we can go on a good run. But I'm also willing to admit that some things about this team don't make me comfortable.

 

I think you, and several other Yankee fans, are approaching this next month with blinders on when you say "Don't worry, we will win most of the games against those good teams". Confidence in your team is admirable, but "blind faith" without acknowleding the difficulty ahead seems less like confidence and more like denial.

[JeterWifey213]

I don't have blind faith, after last year I know better than that. I know the upcoming teams are tough, and that our pitching is not the best. I still have confidence in our starters ( as little as they may be, lol) and in our hitting. In denial I am not, I know what Boston, the LAA, the Twins, and Rangers can do. They have very good pitching, good hitting, and good defense. If I start to panic and worry I will drive myself crazier. I take the season one game at a time, I understand completely what you are saying. Believe me Pavano is not on my favorite list, but is better than Mays. All I am saying is that miracles can happen, I think as a Sox fan you will agree with me on that.

[ORS]

Well now you admitted the upcoming schedule is a challenge.......earlier it was "we wil win". Totally different, totally respectable.

[JeterWifey213]

Oh when I wrote that I didn't mean we will win all, but some. Sorry for the expression of the context.

[ARod2212]

Just let them play the games? Sounds like you don't think we should talk about it. Funny, since you posted that in a discussion forum. If that's how you truly feel, then why do you bother to post?

Everyone has made their points ad nauseum. They aren't done, and if they come out of this stretch against Cleveland, Boston, Texas and Anaheim well, they will win the AL East. It is a stupid discussion at this point.

[ORS]

Everyone has made their points ad nauseum. They aren't done, and if they come out of this stretch against Cleveland, Boston, Texas and Anaheim well, they will win the AL East. It is a stupid discussion at this point.

Yet you continue to respond.

 

P.S. They have medication that will make the voices in your head quieter if you are having a hard time ignoring them.