scott williamson

[yankeessuck013]

Jan. 19 - The Cubs agreed to a minor league deal with reliever Scott Williamson. The 28-year-old right-hander will earn a salary of $316,000, or $500,000 if he's called up, The Chicago Tribune reports. The Cubs also hold an option on Williamson for 2006.

Williamson, who underwent elbow surgery in mid-October, isn't expected back until at least August. He was 0-1 with a 1.26 ERA in 28 relief appearances for Boston last season.

[sarasoxfan]

my God, man, that injury must have been horrible.

I remeber he almost was put on the world series roster, he must must be hurt far more than they let on.

That salary is about as low as you can go.

[ahhchon]

for that price i don't see why the sox didn't sign him. if they are willing to risk 750k on mantei i don't see why they won't risk 300-500k on williamson. those 2 (if healthy) with foulke would/could take so much off our starters if needed.

 

john

[Plumpamania]

Agreed, if their going to possibly pay only MLB minimum salary I would have done that in a hearbeat, but Williamson also said last year he wants to close. The Cubs have a horrible pen, and he would easily be their closer. That might have affected his decision b/c Theo would have made that offer easy.

[BoSox Rule]

Why the hell didn't we sign him to a Jon Lieber deal?

[ahhchon]

it's not like he's going to be the closer for the cubs. i'm sure they are going to try hawkins there again.

 

john

[Plumpamania]

At least for next year, Williamson is infinitly better than Hawkins (mental make up...please see the 2003 ALCS).

[elsrbueno]

At least for next year, Williamson is infinitly better than Hawkins (mental make up...please see the 2003 ALCS).

 

Williamson is out until at least August, so Hawkins will get his shot.

 

I agree though.... I'd take a healthy Williamson back in a second.

[ahhchon]

any have any idea how much nen and beck are looking for. nen was absolutely filthy before the 2003 season (which he didn't play at all).

 

i can't see offering him a min contract with millions more in incentives. if we're willing to gamble 750k on mantei i don't see why we won't with nen. this guy was my fav closer, still is if he can get healthy again.

 

what about beck, timlin is getting old and embree has lost speed on that fastball. i'm just never too comfortable with those oldies on the mound. i trust them, but not too much :-(

 

john

[Plumpamania]

any have any idea how much nen and beck are looking for. nen was absolutely filthy before the 2003 season (which he didn't play at all).

 

i can't see offering him a min contract with millions more in incentives. if we're willing to gamble 750k on mantei i don't see why we won't with nen. this guy was my fav closer, still is if he can get healthy again.

 

what about beck, timlin is getting old and embree has lost speed on that fastball. i'm just never too comfortable with those oldies on the mound. i trust them, but not too much :-(

 

john

 

Beck isn't exactly young either..and we had him a few years back.

[ahhchon]

an incentive loaded contract of course..

 

john

[elsrbueno]

any have any idea how much nen and beck are looking for. nen was absolutely filthy before the 2003 season (which he didn't play at all).

 

i can't see offering him a min contract with millions more in incentives. if we're willing to gamble 750k on mantei i don't see why we won't with nen. this guy was my fav closer, still is if he can get healthy again.

 

what about beck, timlin is getting old and embree has lost speed on that fastball. i'm just never too comfortable with those oldies on the mound. i trust them, but not too much :-(

 

john

 

Robb Nenn hasn't pitched since 2002, and as nasty as he was in 2002, his K/9 and K/BB numbers were trending downward since 2000 before he got hurt. Also, his BAA was trending upward in those 3 seasons.....

 

He's worth a minor league contract with an invitation to ST, but I'd be worried about a seemingly healthy 34 year old arm with those trends.... let alone someone who's been basically out of action 2 years.

 

Rod Beck was actually a decent pitcher throughout his Red Sox career, and in 2003 with San Diego pitched very well (in limited work though). In 2004 he pitched in even fewer games, and was not effective. San Diego released him August 17th, 2004, but he doesn't seem to have the injury issues Nen had.

 

Still, at 36, Beck is also a big risk.

[ahhchon]

but at league min contracts with incentives it's not a very big risk, considering it's pocket change for henry.

 

john

[soxonfox]

but at league min contracts with incentives it's not a very big risk, considering it's pocket change for henry.

 

john

 

 

if you say thet timlin and embree are old and that you dont trust them, why do you think beck would be getting younger and better. he is definitly not better than either of them. i think hes done.

[ahhchon]

my bad, i didn't check his health record. i just remember hearing he was having a good year sometime ago, then i saw his name so i brought it up.

 

nen on the other hand.. i would like to see theo make it happen.

 

john

[CrespoBlows]

Robb Nen isn't even worth a minor league contract, no way some one can come back from that.

 

BTW, I believe the Cubs closer is Ryan Dempster's job to lose. But I think they should of gave Hawkins a better chance, or better yet Boworski.

[Plumpamania]

Nenn can come back..and $300,000 for a possible elite RP or CP is well worth it.

[yeszir]

Oh wow, Nen, I had completely forgotten about him.

[element1151]

Here are Nen's (only one n, his first name is the one with the double letters at the end) stats. He kind of fell of the face of the earth there, and they don't even know if he'll be able to pitch in 2005.

 

Nen still hoping to pitch in 2005 That is a AP story from August 16, 2004.

 

It's approaching two years since Robb Nen last pitched in the majors, but he still believes he can do it again -- despite his troublesome right shoulder.

 

"I'm still doing everything I can to give myself a chance," Nen said Monday during a visit to San Francisco to see his Giants teammates. "We'll see what happens."

 

That is the latest i could find on him.

[mtac288]

who cares, the sox are never gunna win again

[ahhchon]

who cares, the sox are never gunna win again

 

ban this guy. you know he's an idiot to have said that. just like if we said the yankees would never win again.

 

this is an absolute ban or i'm gone. he's obviously an idiot and will not contribute ANYTHING to this site.

 

john

[yeszir]

ban this guy. you know he's an idiot to have said that. just like if we said the yankees would never win again.

 

this is an absolute ban or i'm gone. he's obviously an idiot and will not contribute ANYTHING to this site.

 

john

He was banned two hours ago dude... :dunno: And not for this post.

[ahhchon]

my bad, didn't realize he was banned. i'm just letting all the idiots get to me.

 

john