lowe to LA?

[yankeessuck013]

LOS ANGELES -- The Dodgers closed in on a contract Friday with postseason hero Derek Lowe worth about $36 million over four years, and finalized their deal to keep left-hander Odalis Perez.

 

"I can't comment yet -- saying yes or saying no," Lowe said from his home in Fort Myers, Fla., when asked about a possible future with the Dodgers.

 

Los Angeles was holding off finalizing a contract with Lowe, wanting to first complete a deal that would send Shawn Green to Arizona, a lawyer involved in those talks said on condition of anonymity.

 

looks like he is LA bound

[YanksHater213]

Talk about over paying...

[yeszir]

When I first read the title I thought "Dodgers or Angels."

 

Anyway, he's bound to go to the first team that offers him anything. This is the downside of having a greedy hold-out-for-later agent, isnt it Derek? And 9 million is still too much for him. The Dodgers could bump it down to 6 and still sign him.

[element1151]

This is no longer a rumor.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3305124

 

9 mill a year/4 yrs. Overpaying a bit.

[Zenny]

DePo is f***ing up. Bringing back Perez was good, but Lowe for that money and length and then the crap quality he is getting in return for Green (not to mention the 5/8 of his salary he'll be paying) just isn't smart. Also, signing Drew could be great or could come back to bite him in the ass. Plus, if Brad Penny gets hurt, they're royally f***ed. Looks like an 85-win division with either the Padres or Giants coming out on top unless every possible if for the Dodgers goes right (not likely).

[stevece80]

Don't really like Boras, but he's an amazing agent. For all those, myself included, talking about how dumb Lowe was for turning down 3 years/27 million in Spring Training, he ends up with 9 million extra dollars and an addition year, playing for a better organization than Detroit, and in a much better climate. For all the hatred towards Boras spewed forth from the standpoint of the fans of an organization, you'd be absolutely insane to not have this guy as your agent if you had the opportunity.

[elsrbueno]

DePo is f***ing up. Bringing back Perez was good, but Lowe for that money and length and then the crap quality he is getting in return for Green (not to mention the 5/8 of his salary he'll be paying) just isn't smart. Also, signing Drew could be great or could come back to bite him in the ass. Plus, if Brad Penny gets hurt, they're royally f***ed. Looks like an 85-win division with either the Padres or Giants coming out on top unless every possible if for the Dodgers goes right (not likely).

 

I have to agree with Zenny here. The Dodgers essentially replaced Green with JD Drew, who has always had potential, but has had exactly 1 season that wasn't marred by injuries. He's replaced Beltre (essentially) with Kent, who won't match Beltre's 2004 offensive numbers, isn't a gold-glove caliber fielder, and is a decade older. Derek Lowe pitched well for the Red Sox in the playoffs, but before that he didn't have the reputation as a clutch pitcher. He's wildly inconsistent in the regular season, and got hot at just the right time for the Red Sox (and as it turns out, himself).

 

I don't see the Dodgers as having improved themselves this offseason, and at this point I certainly don't see them as overwhelming favorites to win the NL West

[CrespoBlows]

5 first round picks for Boston this year

[Zenny]

5 first round picks for Boston this year

Um... no, not at all.

 

From Baseball America's "Ask BA" by Jim Callis

First Round

17. Yankees (from Phillies for Type B Jon Lieber)

22. Marlins (from Giants for Type A Armando Benitez)

23. Red Sox (from Angels for Type A Orlando Cabrera)

28. Cardinals (from Red Sox for Type A Edgar Renteria)

29. Marlins (from Yankees for Type A Carl Pavano)

 

Supplemental First Round

31. Diamondbacks (for Type A Richie Sexson)

32. Rockies (for Type A Vinny Castilla)

33. Guardians (for Type A Omar Vizquel)

34. Marlins (for Benitez)

35. Padres (for Type A David Wells)

36. Athletics (for Type A Damian Miller)

37. Angels (for Type A Troy Percival)

38. Twins (for Type A Corey Koskie)

39. Dodgers (for Type A Adrian Beltre)

40. Braves (for Type A Jaret Wright)

41. Red Sox (for Type A Pedro Martinez)

42. Cardinals (for Renteria)

43. Marlins (for Pavano)

44. Red Sox (for Cabrera)

45. Cardinals (for Type A Mike Matheny)

46. Mets (for failure to sign Philip Humber*)

47. Devil Rays (for failure to sign Jeff Niemann*)

48. Orioles (for failure to sign Wade Townsend)

49. Angels (for failure to sign Jered Weaver*)

50. Diamondbacks (for failure to sign Stephen Drew*)

(*First-round pick still eligible to sign with club.)

 

Second Round

53. Dodgers (from Mariners for Beltre)

54. Rockies (from Nationals for Castilla)

55. Athletics (from Brewers for Miller)

56. Twins (from Blue Jays for Koskie)

59. Red Sox (from Mets for Martinez)

60. Angels (from Tigers for Percival)

65. Yankees (from White Sox for Type B Orlando Hernandez)

72. Cardinals (from Giants for Matheny)

78. Padres (from Red Sox for Wells)

79. Braves (from Yankees for Wright)

 

Supplemental Second Round

81. Marlins (for Type C Mike Redmond, signed with Twins)

82. Twins (for Type C Henry Blanco, signed with Cubs)

 

Third Round

85. Diamondbacks (from Mariners for Sexson)

86. Twins (from Nationals for Type B Cristian Guzman)

104. Guardians (from Giants for Vizquel)

110. Cubs (from Red Sox for Type B Matt Clement)

 

Remaining free agents requiring compensation if they switch teams:

 

Type A: Carlos Beltran (Hou), Derek Lowe (Bos).

Type B: Brent Mayne (LA), Gregg Zaun (Tor).

Due to losing free agents and adding different ones, we essentially replace the picks we lost to other teams and add an additional supplemental first round pick and lose a third rounder.

 

EDIT: This doesn't factor in the D-Lowe picks yet, which should upgrade us some more.

[stocker323]

Plus we'll get another supplemental draft pick when Lowe signs with LA.

[Zenny]

Plus we'll get another supplemental draft pick when Lowe signs with LA.

No, we'll get a real, live first rounder from the Dodgers. It'll be somewhere between 20 and 25. I don't have the real order in front of me, just the changes.

[stocker323]

How come some Type A draft picks require Real 1st round picks, and others only require supplemental. I also don't see the Dodgers surrendering a pick for signing Drew, so wouldn't they give their 1st rounder to Atlanta?

[stevece80]

Drew wasn't offered arbitration. You at least have to pretend to put forth an effort to sign the player, and the first step in doing so is to offer salary arbitration. A few caveats, if the team that signs your player is among the 15 worst in baseball, you'd get a sandwich pick and their second rounder. If they're among the 15 best, and I use that term loosely, you'd get their first and a sandwich pick. To put a bit of a wrinkle into all of this, players are ranked by the Elias Sports Bureau (mostly on weighted averages put on triple crown statistics) and ranked accordingly. If a team signs 3 players that were offered arbitration to, those teams would receive the 1st, 2nd, pr 3rd (and so on depending on where they draft) according to the player's ranking.

 

The Red Sox have the 23rd, 26th, 42nd, 45th, 47th, and 61st picks of the draft in the first two rounds, losing only the team's 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks in the process. Now, had the Red Sox instead of going out and attaining players, signed all the impending free agents and called it a day, they would have kept all their picks in the first 3 rounds. Instead, the Red Sox ended up with 2 first round picks higher than it's own that it gave up, 3 extra picks between the first and second round, and a much higher 2nd round pick. That's three additional picks that the team ended up with in the midst of all the offseason shuffling. Furthermore, those 6 picks are all higher than last year's first pick, who was none other than Dustin Pedroia, who appears on the fast track already.

 

Not bad, not bad at all. I'll take my chances on the 2005 squad being as good or better (and cheaper) than what the team would have looked like had Theo just re-signed everyone. Theo is the best thing to happen to Boston since Red Auerbach.

[CrespoBlows]

Red Sox have the

 

23rd pick

The Dodgers Pick

41. Red Sox (for Type A Pedro Martinez

44. Red Sox (for Cabrera)

plus the dodgers compensation pick for Lowe

 

That's 5

[CrespoBlows]

Oh I see, I included those sandwiched picks in between the 1st and 2nd rounds as 1st round picks. They are noted as 1st round picks by some columists I read

[Chitalian Stallion]

I meant to say:Does anyone know who we'll sign with those picks?

[stevece80]

Amateur players.

 

And the "bathroom" in CBGB is one of the worst sights I've ever seen. Stall-less shitter on a drum riser. Awesome. The Living Room in Providence runs a close second. Sorry for the off-topic-ness.

[yeszir]

Amateur players.

 

And the "bathroom" in CBGB is one of the worst sights I've ever seen. Stall-less shitter on a drum riser. Awesome. The Living Room in Providence runs a close second. Sorry for the off-topic-ness.

What? I dont follow. What's CBGB?

[stevece80]

In reference to his avatar. It's a dive club on Bowery near Houston St in the lower east side of Manhattan.

[yeszir]

In reference to his avatar. It's a dive club on Bowery near Houston St in the lower east side of Manhattan.

Ohhh. I didn't even think to look in his avatar. Cool.