Pedro Martinez Set To Sign 3 Yr 40 Million With...

[sarasoxfan]

fanatstic article by shaughnessy today in the globe about pedro...

I dont always agree with dan but today he hit the nail right on the head.

 

pedro's in for a rude surprise in the apple....

 

 

he snap like a twig..I guarantee it.

[schillingouttheks]

Originally posted by ahhchon@Dec 13 2004, 11:13 PM

pedro

glavine

benson

trashel

zambrano

only gives me reason to route for the mets...i hope he does well. good luck pedro.

[ahhchon]

Originally posted by sarasoxfan@Dec 14 2004, 08:34 AM

okay, so that's that...he bails for a few million, that will make a big difference to him when he retires I'm sure...

 

he was great but I for one am not too broken up to see him leave.

 

he was a spoiled baby--and not that I begrudge someone making a living, the new yorl newspapers will eat him alive when he starts with his prima dona s***....

 

thank you, good bye and good riddance...(greedy *******)

 

respect my ass....here on earth we call it money.

 

let's sign the non declining tek and soon!!!

oh god, lets not go to tek again. i can bring up so many numbers showing how tek is not as good as you guys think. i've done it and i'll do it again.

 

pedro didn't leave for a "few" million dollars. he left for 18.5 friggan million dollars. that's so much money. everyone on this board won't make that in our lifetimes even if we put all our efforts together.

 

he eared the 7 years 90 mill we paid him. he doesn't owe us anything and we don't owe him anything. it's over with, no need to keep bitching about pedro leaving.

 

john

 

p.s.- dan absolutely SUCKS. he also stated that the red sox lost the ALCS this year.

[RedSoxRooter]

Originally posted by sarasoxfan@Dec 14 2004, 09:12 AM

pedro's in for a rude surprise in the apple....

I highly doubt it. I think he'll actually be very good in Shea. Just remember, he may be good at Shea in the NL, but he wouldn't have been as good at Fenway.

 

And I totally agree with ahhchon -"it's over with, no need to keep bitching about pedro leaving."

[mosox]

What's bugging me is the fact that because of Pedro Theo couldn't land Radke, or chase after Pavano and now he's left with over-paying Clement.

[sarasoxfan]

of course, there is no need to bitch, that's why its so fun to do it.

 

He's an ******* and always was, a greedy pig. A great picther but a an ego maniac.

 

The s*** the redsox were going to give him by way of perks makes me think he was bigger ******* than I even thought possible.

 

I hope he does poorly with the Mets and they have to eat his big fat contract.

 

 

He'll get eaten alive by the new york press--the first sign of his little spoiled prima dona ******** and theyll pounce-believ me....

 

They are already licking their chops, because the mets were so stupid to give an aging pitcher a four year deal.

 

His first injury--probably in May sometime and they'll start chomping, and he'll start whining about respect and I'll sit back and smile.

[elsrbueno]

Originally posted by sarasoxfan@Dec 15 2004, 09:29 AM

of course, there is no need to bitch, that's why its so fun to do it.

 

He's an ******* and always was, a greedy pig. A great picther but a an ego maniac.

 

The s*** the redsox were going to give him by way of perks makes me think he was bigger ******* than I even thought possible.

 

I hope he does poorly with the Mets and they have to eat his big fat contract.

 

 

He'll get eaten alive by the new york press--the first sign of his little spoiled prima dona ******** and theyll pounce-believ me....

 

They are already licking their chops, because the mets were so stupid to give an aging pitcher a four year deal.

 

His first injury--probably in May sometime and they'll start chomping, and he'll start whining about respect and I'll sit back and smile.

wow.

 

That's hostile.

 

Pedro Martinez was the ace of this staff for seven years. Pedro Martinez helped the Red Sox win the World Series we fans have craved all our lives. Pedro Martinez has given us hours of entertainment.

 

Where's the love?

 

Personally, I am surprised that he didn't go somewhere warm. It's well documented that he doesn't pitch as well in cold weather, and New York will have cold April and September games. He REALLY would have thrived in a place like Anaheim or St. Louis.

 

Personally, I don't buy into the crap about Pedro being washed up. He's not the pitcher he was in the late 90s, but he is still a very good pitcher. Will he miss some games? Probably. Will he continue his antics? Of course. But all that crap was worth it EVERY TIME he stepped on the mound, because you KNEW you had a good chance of winning that day. Pedro's a competitor.

 

I could care less what he does off the field, but when he steps onto it, he was one of the greatest pitchers in Red Sox history, and for that, I am thankful to Pedro Martinez.

 

I wish him luck with the Mets. I'd be thrilled to see them win the NL East, and have a successful season (because it WILL piss off George).

 

Pedro Martinez will be missed. Does that mean the Red Sox can't move on and be a successful team without him? Absolutely not.

[sarasoxfan]

yeah well, I wouldnt be so hostile but I read this quote from pedro:

 

"My heart will always be with the Boston fans," Martinez said, speaking on TV in the Dominican Republic. "I hope that everyone who truly loves me will still support me now that I won't be with the Red Sox."

 

I am still cleaning up the peas and carrots off my keyboard if you know what I mean.

 

he is a great pitcher and I cheered madly for him, but is a great big a-hole as well.

 

Meet the mets"...greet the Mets...pedro's goin' cheat the Mets.

[ahhchon]

Originally posted by elsrbueno+Dec 15 2004, 09:49 AM-->

QUOTE (elsrbueno @ Dec 15 2004, 09:49 AM)

[BoSox Rule]

Take out this year and Pedro was 101-28 (.783) with a 2.27 ERA in 6 years with us.

[ahhchon]

Originally posted by BoSox Rule@Dec 15 2004, 05:19 PM

Take out this year and Pedro was 101-28 (.783) with a 2.27 ERA in 6 years with us.

i wish i could have, but you gotta face the facts that he had OMG 1 bad year with us. that's all some dumbass "fans" seem to remember. half the people in my college that wears boston hats were not even around for when we got pedro from the expos.

 

john

 

p.s.- not half, more like 98%

[schillingouttheks]

what college?

[yeszir]

Originally posted by schillingouttheks@Dec 15 2004, 05:57 PM

what college?

If you'll remember, he goes to Northeastern.

[ahhchon]

yea yea, spot of the 1st world series EVER.

 

john

[Pedro]

Sorry to dissapoint, but it is a pretty fair bet that Pedro will dominate the NL for at least the first couple seasons he's in a Mets uniform.

[yeszir]

Originally posted by Pedro@Dec 15 2004, 07:27 PM

Sorry to dissapoint, but it is a pretty fair bet that Pedro will dominate the NL for at least the first couple seasons he's in a Mets uniform.

I agree. He'll be facing new batters who may fear him more than AL batters have for the past few years. The only downside to the NL for Pedro is that he'll have to bat, so he may be more reluctant to come in on batters and scare them off the plate when the repurcussions of hitting them may be a plunk in the back.

 

Plus he looks so scrawny at the plate.

[BoSox Rule]

Originally posted by yeszir+Dec 15 2004, 07:50 PM-->

QUOTE (yeszir @ Dec 15 2004, 07:50 PM)

[RedSoxRooter]

Well, it's official. Pedro just passed his physical.

 

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/350/sports...on_deal_:.shtml

[yeszir]

Wow. Just looking over Pedro's stats is amazing. '97, '99, '00 are the most amazing years...it's sad to see him go. It still hasnt hit me I guess.

[BoSox Rule]

I was hoping the Mets would pull their offer and Pedro would accept arbitration.

 

Well, the greatest 7 year stretch is baseball history is OVER in a Sox uniform, OFFICIALLY.

[BoSox Rule]

Originally posted by yeszir@Dec 15 2004, 08:09 PM

Wow. Just looking over Pedro's stats is amazing. '97, '99, '00 are the most amazing years...it's sad to see him go. It still hasnt hit me I guess.

They showed a piece on Pedro on Sportscenter, and they were showing 1998-2001 clips. I just can't believe how things went down. Torn shoulder...the old owners made him pitch hurt to prove to potential buyers he was healthy...3.90 ERA...

[RedSoxRooter]

Remember that NY game in 01 when Pedro said he wanted to shut it down and Duquett forced him to pitch? That bastard. I was at that game and Pedro only went like 5 innings or something. He went on the DL shortly after.

[sarasoxfan]

pedro is going to get slaughterd in the NL and he'll be injured by June and the mets will regret having ever signed a prima dona who is always complaing and whining about respect, never being able to pitch passed the 6th or over a 100 pitches.

 

Every one can talk whistfully about his great outings and all that, but when it came time to choosing the red sox and the fans not mention the chance to play on a winning team he choose money and the mets over it.

 

I trust and hope he regrets his decision every day he's on the DL because that's where he'll be most of the time he's on the Mets..

 

I appreciate very much what the guy did in a sox uniform, but in the end he's another classless spoiled douche bag, who cares about one thing and one thing only--money.

[ahhchon]

Originally posted by sarasoxfan@Dec 16 2004, 09:00 AM

pedro is going to get slaughterd in the NL and he'll be injured by June and the mets will regret having ever signed a prima dona who is always complaing and whining about respect, never being able to pitch passed the 6th or over a 100 pitches.

 

Every one can talk whistfully about his great outings and all that, but when it came time to choosing the red sox and the fans not mention the chance to play on a winning team he choose money and the mets over it.

 

I trust and hope he regrets his decision every day he's on the DL because that's where he'll be most of the time he's on the Mets..

 

I appreciate very much what the guy did in a sox uniform, but in the end he's another classless spoiled douche bag, who cares about one thing and one thing only--money.

what bases do you have saying that. EIGHTEEN POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. hell i would have gone to the yankees for that. all of a sudden it makes me a bad person.

 

this is a business, not a loyalty function. so let me get this straight. renteria is NOT a bastard for leaving the team he went to the ws with to join the opposing team for a measily 1 mill per year more. but pedro is a bastard because he's leaving for 18? i hate to get into this s*** with you again but your personal bias against pedro is clouding everything you say.

 

how can you say a guy is this and that for one thing but not say anything about the other guy?

 

get your facts straight, pedro was the f***ing man. i don't care if he didn't show up ever, as long has he was there for his starts that's all that mattered. it's not like him being such a baby affected any games.

 

he was a clubhouse clown, everyone loved him, everyone that played for him at least. the only reason you even THINK that he's a baby and whiner is because of the media. they blow everything out of proportion. even like you said, "i hope the NY media eats him alive" (along the lines of that). what does the media have anything to do with how well he plays f*** it. pedro is the man, the best pitcher to ever wear the sox uniform and you should be greatful you even got the chance to see him on tv.

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

being a great pitcher--doesnt make you the man..I dont care what the media says..In fact I have defended pedro for years against what I believe was bais against him. I am not sure how you know everyone loved pedro on the team, but I dont have the same access to the team that you clearly do.

 

But in my opinion pedro is a spoiled brat and hall of fame pitcher, which is amplified in the article below form the sarasota trib..... And for the millionth time the reason I get on pedro and not other free agents is becasue the other guys didnt handle their negtiations as classlessly as your boy or play every one agianst each other....

 

heres the article:

Pedro said his heart always will be with Red Sox fans. (Nice sound bite, anyway).

 

Who among us really cares what Pedro Martinez has to say? His actions over the past couple of days have superceded any sincerity his words might carry.

 

Sorry. Word$.

 

There might be pockets of Red Sox fans upset (like John) to see one of the three greatest pitchers in franchise history accept the Mets' guaranteed $52 million over four years to pitch in #%&*$@ New York.

 

The many Dominican Republic fans who poured into Fenway Park every fifth day to watch Martinez pitch is one.

 

The ones who proudly waved the flag of Pedro's homeland, then read of his dominance in stories written in Spanish in the next day's Boston Globe.

 

They're uphappy to see Pedro go. Red Sox management is not. While wishing Martinez the best and praising him for seven wonderful years in Boston, all the politically correct stuff, they're saying something quite different behind closed doors.

 

Something like, "Good riddance.''

 

There's a reason Martinez was dubbed "Diva Pedro'' by one Boston sports columnist. There was one set of rules for 24 Red Sox players, one set for baseball's Celine Dion.

 

He was allowed to come late to pre-game stretches. He was allowed to question management's decisions. He was allowed to take mini-vacations in the middle of the season.

 

As long as Pedro produced, it was all overlooked. And Pedro did produce. In seven years in Boston, Martinez won 117, lost just 37. His 1999 and 2000 seasons (23-4, 2.07 ERA, 313 Ks; 18-6, 1.74 ERA, 284 Ks) were among the finest in baseball's last 50 years.

 

He did so in recent years with a bum shoulder that required babying and pampering. Pedro developed an earned reputation as a six-inning pitcher.

 

The numbers proved it. Once Pedro's pitch count reached north of 100, his performance usually detoured south.

 

After his last game in a Red Sox uniform, Martinez said if he didn't re-sign, it probably was because the team didn't try hard enough.

 

Apparently Boston's offer of $40.5 million over three years wasn't enough effort. Extending a contract which contained 200 perks, among them that the Red Sox pay for the relocation of Pedro's family, wasn't effort enough.

 

During Martinez's seven years in Boston, the Red Sox paid him $92 million. Ninety-two million. When is enough money enough to live comfortably?

 

Pedro leveraged the Sox against the Mets, the Mets against the Sox, all for that one final guaranteed year which will no doubt ensure Martinez's great-great- great-great grandchildren swill caviar and Dom Perignon.

 

The Red Sox will survive. They did after Roger Clemens left. They did after Nomar Garciaparra left.

 

Had he stayed, Pedro Martinez could have retired as one of the most popular players in Red Sox history. Now he'll be remembered as just another athlete who followed the green.

[ahhchon]

that article has its good points and so many bad points it's not even funny.

 

first off, ANYONE that reads the boston globe as a source of information about a game or the red sox in general is an idiot. those writers don't know anything. those guys hate pedro. ANY TRUE red sox fan that has been watching the sox for more than 2-3 years would know that pedro hasn't always been like this. he was the man back then, he was above all else. like i said, i would have rolled a red carpet for him when he was introduced at fenway.

 

as for leaving for money. i'm glad he left, the sox couldn't afford that. WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY should he STAY for LESS money? the red sox paid him 92 million in 7 years because he was supposed to be an awsome pitcher. guess what. he was more than that. he was the greatest pitcher to ever touch a baseball. simple as that. he MORE than earned those dollars. you could look and say that it is US who is jipping him.

 

either way him leaving is for the better. he gets a boatload more money, 18.5 million dollars. i don't care if he's playing for the yankees (although it'll bite me everytime i see him in pinstripes) but for 18.5 million dollars you and i would both leave. it's not about how much money he has, it's about how much money was offered him.

 

i'm sure he's a big friggan spender, i'm sure he wants to live like that forever after he retires, 18.5 million sure friggan helps.

 

pedro was the most rediculous person every dubbed by boston columnist. that's because he gave them no respect and they hated him. f***, who doesn't hate the media. if he bowed down to them and gave them their stupid interviews here and there none of this would have happened. you fell for it.

 

don't you guys realize how much the boston media sucks, how much the media sucks in general?

 

please, if you want to bash on pedro make another thread, we are trying to remember the greatest pitcher who ever lived. don't ruin our thing.

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

speaking of idiots...I said it was from the sarasota trib.

[ahhchon]

Originally posted by sarasoxfan@Dec 16 2004, 10:38 AM

speaking of idiots...I said it was from the sarasota trib.

i missed it, i can't read this s*** word for word. i'de be here forever. i make my pionts while i'm reading and get it done.

 

saratosa trib, never checked that paper to see how they are so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt that they are not complete morons.

 

but what i said about the globe is true. they are idiots, people who read it are idiots. (sport section on sox at least)

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

okay, John..where is the peace pipe???zenny probably took it..

 

The only thing you said I wont argue with is that I will respect the subject of the thread, and stop bashing pay-dro,.

 

But "the greatest pitcher who ever lived"...I hope your buzz doesnt make you screwup your exams..

[ahhchon]

how is pedro not the best pitcher to ever live. yeah there were many greats.

 

koufax, gibson are what comes to mind imo. they both pitched in the NL, both pitched during the deadball era, both had a raised mound.

 

pedro pitches in the AL, every 9th batter is NOT the opposing pitcher, he pitches in the most prolific hitters era ever (juiced era basically), has a lowered mound.

 

pedros worst year, 04 was better than the first half of koufax's career.

 

john