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Tony Mass agrees too.
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He doesn’t have the secondary pitches.
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This is the guy to stop the losing streak? Looks like the Angels wanted to keep it going.
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JBJ has both of those balls.
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And Bloom first wanted him. Downs is a bust too.
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You keep on asking that question on who else was interested like the Dodgers were the only one, and maybe they were, but we don’t know that. No one ever said Downs was the center of that deal, but he sure has been talked up enough on here. Betts should have been traded earlier, and maybe just maybe they could have gotten more players back, and not prospects. I don’t like Bloom, and I’ve been right up front with that, and I know it bothers all his followers, but that’s my opinion. You said 2 days ago it was good to see Downs heating up. What’s he been like 2-30 with 11 K’s? Wow!
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If the grades would have been in Bloom’s favor you would be all over them. Downs was supposedly some high prospect at the time of the trade, so the grades today would probably be even lower.
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Now we’re talking.
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You are going off from the point I was trying to make. 1 year of Betts compared to 5 years of Dugy I get, but that’s not my point.
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I didn’t know ERA ever went away. Either way Davis was not significant.
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Understood about prospects in a trade, but no matter how good Dugy does he will never be a Betts, and doing a fire sale , or not resigning Bogey, JD, and Raffy what are the chances that you will get equal value back either in players, or prospects, and end up being better than you were before. That has been my big question right along. Those all are big shoes to fill, and just like Story will never fill Bogey’s shoes just, because he might be a better defensive SS.
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I’ve always said I’m against 10year/$300M contracts for anybody, and that’s Raffy, and Mookie included. Bloom did do a bad job on the return for Betts especially the great Jeter Downs who has gone 2 years now without getting above 200 against AAA pitching, and that is Blooms fault. Look at all the sites that graded the deal, and how many gave Bloom a passing grade.
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I’m very well aware that John Henry has the say in Bogey, and Raffy are resigned.I wouldn’t pay nowhere near $650M to resign them, and I think under $500M would do it. Comparing Sale, and Price is nowhere near a good comparison to Bogey, and Raffy. You now what Bogey, and Raffy can do in Boston, and Sale was a TJ waiting to happen, and price was a bad fit for Boston, but he went to the highest bidder. So you just want to be competitive like the Rays, but don’t win anything like the Sox have done the past 20 years. The Sox didn’t win 4 WS doing it the Tampa way.
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I have been a Red Sox fan since about 1960, and I just don’t want nothing to do with the Tampa way. Why is Bloom so high on some list here? He was praised just because he came from Tampa before he had done anything for Boston. Prospects! Did someone say prospects? There has been so much fire sale talk on here even before the season started that I think the prospect of getting prospects is more appealing than anything else. The Red Sox have produced many good talented players through the years without doing it the Tampa way. Mookie, Raffy, Bogey JBJ, and Bennny just to name a few on now, and recent teams. Future to me is now, and not what prospects may, or may not do. Brightness to the future would be to get Bogey, and Raffy signed. Not hoping what Casas, or Mayer is going to do. Any time there is an opinion on here against Bloom, or Cora is like how can you think like that. Very predictable, and amusing. Someone said we got Bloom, and we got Cora like that is supposed to give the Red Sox a big advantage, and I don’t always see it like that.
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Long ways to go for that, but at the end of the season If Wacha stays a reliable starting pitcher I will do that. I’m not planning on going to any postseason parade just yet. Things are looking real good at the moment, but the Sox are presently playing some of the dredges of the league. They are not this good, but they wasn’t that bad to start the season either. A long ways to go, so we’ll see how things shake out. I believe the Sox have a 14 game stretch in early July where they just play NY, and Tampa, and then play The Jays for 3, so we’ll see where they are after that.
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I have said before I was wrong in calling him Whacka.
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Downs is in a slump? It’s been two years now under 200 for Downs so maybe that just his norm.
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That’s how things ended up, but it was a spaghetti outfield for awhile.
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Downs? He can’t hit 200 in Worcester, and strikes out more than Story, so how do you think he could hit in Boston?
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Last year Bloom just threw things against the wall in the OF to see who stuck. Marwin, Franchy,and Duran pretty much sucked, and Kike after a slow start turned out well, along with Renfroe, so you’re right on about that. Bringing back JBJ, and putting Arroyo out there this year do not make much sense either.
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1B hasn’t been so great either to not have a veteran to back up Bobby D not named Shaw to start the season.
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Who’s responsible for the garbage dump?
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It’s very easy to see why the Red Sox don’t have a true closer, or any kind of closer for that matter. Can you say BLOOM? Also a third of the way into the season, and who knows what their role is in the bullpen outside of being in the bullpen. What kind of baseball strategy is that?
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All that you say is true, and that if Sale hadn’t gotten hurt most likely both Houck, and Whitlock would be in the BP.Yes Bloom, and Co. had a similar looking pen last winter that got the team close to the WS, but the big difference was you had the good Barnes to start the season, and Whitlock who turned out to be a gem of a fine who was in the BP all year long. Having said that, and as close as the team got to the WS they were also one game away from not making the postseason at all, so every game counts, and these early season losses if only 3, or 4 can’t be made up. Someone on here said the Red Sox had two experienced closers in Barnes, and Robles to start the season, but they both sucked.Robles was signed late, because nobody else wanted him, so if Bloom was counting on Robles, and Barnes to be a closer especially how Barnes ended last year that to me wasn’t very sound baseball judgement. Yes there is still a lot of the season left, so we’ll see if those early season losses late in the games will cost the team in the standings. Remember one more loss last year, and the Sox don’t make the post season. They all count.
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I’m just saying I don’t think the back end of the BP has been fixed. 26-3 is good at first glance, but when you break it down like you did in 8th, 9th, and extra innings either being tied, or up 1, or 2 runs it not as good, so I guess it depends how you want to look at the stats. Half empty, or half full.