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Agreed, but that would also be assuming no change at the top of the front office -- which, in Boston, is always a threat.
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I'm more inclined to include your second group more than your first, because it may be three or four years before Boston is back in an ALCS. Maybe Devers or Verdugo will still be around, but probably Cora and Bloom will be gone (if current ownership remains true to form and hasn't sold). By then, fast movers from your third list could include Jimenez, Song, Yorke, with Matt Lugo starting at short and Juan Chacon in the outfield.
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A Realistic View at 2021: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
If the Sox suck again Bloom may have no choice but to spend, especially if mandated by owners. Even if some of the reclamation arms pan out, and Sale's limited comeback looks promising, they're still going to have to get serious about acquiring established pitchers to contend. -
Who should the Sox have play CF on opening day?
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to mvp 78's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Him, and the national media that kept ranking this offseason's free agents. Everyone listed JBJ as the second-best centerfielder. Media coverage -- including quotes from industry sources -- may have more influence on the market and player values than even forum posters (no matter how much quantitative data we dig up). -
This may be a better question for the Realistic thread: Which of these guys will realistically be part of "the core of the next great team" that Bloom keeps saying he's looking forward to seeing materialize this summer? Or was he maybe to referring to call-ups like Duran and Downs after they're out of it...
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A Realistic View at 2021: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I've lost my italics and bold-face so this part of my post was worded carefully: "may have been responsible -- in a way - he may have even..." Pedro MAY be a Hall of Famer who helps lesser lights; we at least know he coached Eovaldi's throwing workouts right before Nate had his career peak in '18. I also considered Saberhagen -- good catch on Avery, too -- as pedigree influences... the more the merrier. This is another reason -- IN A WAY -- why the Sox, Bloom, and I would bet, Cora, recruited Kike and Marwin to help mentor and bring ring experience to a suddenly, mostly unproven lineup on the diamond and in the batting order. As for confidence, for those -- WHO MAY -- care more about a paycheck, it may pay off to relax and stress less about making a living playing a game while your window is still open. But some posters who said this winter that pros only care about the highest bidders have also admitted recently that certain veterans may also prefer contenders with a chance to win. -
A Realistic View at 2021: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Without wrapping stats around it, can we at least consider that Pedro's greatness may have been responsible -- in a way -- for that 88-win pace by the rest of the club? All his innings of excellence had to have had a part in keeping the bullpen from burn-out. Also, knowing you'll have one of the game's aces on the mound every five days gives teammates and management confidence, and allows guys to relax and get the most out of their abilities by not pressing. He may have even spread his pitching acumen around the clubhouse and dugout to teach others a new grip, new pitch, how to set up certain batters, even a winning attitude and assassin mindset. These are reasons why I'll always advocate acquiring a legitimate ace whenever possible... even if a team isn't deemed "good enough yet" to invest in one. -
First you get the game scores, then you get the...
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Bs to Ds -- sounds like my senior year of high school. If only I devoted as much time studying the books as I did those boxscores (said my parents).
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Your scalp is flaky.
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Ya, my step-father grew up playing on a team with Whitey Ford, and good character was all they ever talked about. I didn't get it, because I grew up in a decade when the A's and Yankees kept fighting themselves and winning pennants almost every single year. Nowadays, with guaranteed kajillion-dollar contracts, player attitudes may mean more than ever (see Betts, Mookie). Every contender would do well to also ensure it has some young, hungry and not-yet-rich stars in the mix...
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Come on, Sox fan... Martin Perez!
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Also worth considering what price franchises put on assembling rosters of employees who will help unify morale, respect authority and not publicly shame the organization.
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I actually found some interesting stats on bref in the "Pitches" category under Pitcher Comparisons... ... for Kimbrel (2010-20), Barnes (2014-20) and Uehara (2009-17). Strike %: Kimbrel 64.3, Barnes 61.6, Koji 70.9. 1st Pitch Strike %: Kimbrel 59.7, Barnes 57.9, Koji 68.0. 3-0 counts seen: Kimbrel 102, Barnes 61, Koji 38. 0-2 counts seen: Kimbrel 782, Barnes 333, Koji 658. 3-pitch Ks: Kimbrel 203, Barnes 56, Koji 125. And my favorite: 4-pitch walks: Kimbrel 40, Barnes 22... Koji Uehara 4. Just for perspective, I looked up Eckerlsy (1975-1998)... 72.1 and 69.7; 3-0: 68; 0-2: 1,013; 3-pitch Ks: 163; 4-pitch walks: 11... in 24 years.
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Great stats. Koji was a machine, but a quietly efficient machine; we could hardly hear a hum -- so easy to take for granted. The other traumatic event that maybe can't be traced as much is when erratic relievers allow baserunners to advance or even score on wild pitches. WPs don't even have to result in a hit or walk -- pitchers can still retire the batter -- after serious damage done. Lester was tough in the postseason, but Cubs fans had to be horrified in Game Seven of the '16 WS when he came in and bounced two runs home on the same wild pitch! To his credit, he bought everyone in Chicago a beer when he left town last autumn.
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Yup, there's certainly a difference between giving up weak contact or getting tagged. My suggestion of WHIP was more an accounting for guys missing the strike zone.
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That reminds me of another issue guys like Kimbrel and Pap had -- coming into tie games, as opposed to starting with the lead. It almost felt like some of the intensity was missing, or had to be rationed, if there was no personal stat to nail down ("Holds" can't be worth as much as saves at negotiating tables... or in nightclubs).
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Regarding blown saves, no matter the inning, here's a take from a fan watching from home and a player watching from a distance farther from the plate (I don't play catcher): any reactions of disappointment or disgust -- if the guy is getting paid -- are weighted more towards relievers walking batters versus giving up hits. Guys here often admit ERA is deceiving for relievers, who aren't penalized for allowing inherited runners to score. Even batting averages don't show the wildness dreaded by spectators off and on the field. Maybe WHIP is a better stat?
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Everything Moon and Jax have been saying about this topic makes total sense, and I don't know why any organization wouldn't take all those factors into consideration when evaluating such a prospect.
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To me, there are levels of distress in the 9th. If a closer blows one because a smart hitter went with a low and outside pitch for an oppo double, then the other guys beat us. But if a pitcher suddenly can't hit the side of a barn, starts bouncing curves and throwing heaters over the backstop, and walks the house... then we beat us. For fans and teammates, that is abject horror.
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So he recorded over 6,000 outs with the Ms... that's the kind of warrior that WAR could go to WAR with. Jamie Warrior...
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Acquiring "established" closers can also be a crapshoot. Whether you're investing money or prospect capital, it would seem most important to get a guy on his way up -- and not in the other direction. At about the same free agent contract, Hendriks in his prime seems safer than Papelbon past his. But didn't Edwin Diaz look like a good get at age 25? What did Seattle know that they didn't tell the Mets?
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Right, at least that's not subjective...
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But I'm sure there are those who will insist that choosing a top-rated prospect is a total crapshoot, and has absolutely nothing to do with who his father is.
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I don't know why, but for some reason I may trust the wisdom of Al Leiter in teaching his son how to actually pitch and not just enhance the speed of his fastball.
