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JDM says absolutely no cheating and team will be cleared
oldtimer replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
In the case of Cora and probably Beltran too, the teams asked them what was done in Houston and they answered that they were part of the cheating there. That was enough of an admission for the clubs to have grounds for parting company. -
I'm still playing slow pitch softball and will be 79 very shortly. cheating goes on with teams bending the rules by loading up teams with ringers. Its done in many ways but the result is the team that does it is very hard to beat. Fastballs are no issue with slow pitch and it is more the arc and placement that get batters to mishit. I pitch at times and am no master as placement and avoid walking guys. I don't know of a lot of other cheating going on although some guys may be tempted to use shaved bats. Internal shaving can add distanced to the hit but can result in being banned from SSUSA.
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The Astros were accused of mounting a camera to look in on the catcher and steal signs real time and then relay the information to the hitter real time. I am not certain of the accusation against the Red Sox since nothing specific has been recounted. The basic information is one or several players would go to the replay room to see what pitches were being called and to learn what the signs were. Was it when a htter got to second that they could use the information to relay to the batter during an at bat? If so, how much different is that than hitters on second stealing signs while there (which is legal)? I would imagine most teams would study replay footage to learn about signs but also pitcher tendencies. To me to counter the stealing, the teams need to switch signs regularly to defeat this kind of sign stealing. I'm saying, the devil is in the details.
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One less guy to compete for 1st base. Dalbec and Chavis?
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Who Will Be The Red Sox Manager in 2020?
oldtimer replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Roenicke seems like the plausible manager, however, if he is implicated in the cheating scandal we would have to look outside the organization. Possibly the safeswt thing to do is to look outside. -
The way it was quoted is they mutually agreed to part company. They didn't fire him but gave him the opportunity to part company.
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In the Sox case, they were 57-24 at home and 51-30 away. Doesn't sound like the cheating had a llot to do with the outcome assuming it only occurred at home.
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Pedey and VTek Manager Bench Coach
oldtimer replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Ron Roenicke is the likely new interim manager based on an article today. Not a bad choice. -
Don't the players commonly look at replay technology to see what they and theiir opponents are doing? I suppose the only difference is immediancy. If you look at yesterdays game playbacks and learn of the signs being used, presumably that is okay and then the man that gets to second can signal to the batter legally. It appears to me the only difference is when the signs are being stolen real time and then somehow being passed to the batter, such as banging on trash cans. Sign stealing in general has been practiced as long as signs have been used. In the game today, all sorts of efforts are being made to switch signs such that sign stealing will be less effective or totally ineffective.
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I don't see why you say that. Perhaps Cora will be fired and some sanction will be applied. I'll bet other organizations did similar things.
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Plus he could fill in at short if required, possibly third and the OF. He miht be a nice utility guy to have on the team. Not great, but versatile.
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Marco was moved to make room for Brice.
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Unless there is a substantial change in the competitive balance tax I think that teams that get involved in very expensive long term contracts (especially for pitchers) will ultimately rue the day they took them on. We are in that boat now. The Yankees got themselves into that position with Cole. I hope Bloom is one of the smarter executives and Friedman of the Dodgers is also smart and looking for an equitable trade. I think it is in both teams interests to move ahead, with the Dodgers main drive being to win the WS now while the Sox main drive is to reset, get rid of Price's contract and be in a position to try and resign Betts for 2021 and beyond. I'm assuming it will take Betts along with Price to cut a deal and the Dodgers will part with a couple of very good prospects and take the majority of Price's salary.
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I would think the chance is slim of winning it all with Betts and Price, primarily due to the stability of our starting pitching staff. Maybe Price can function as a 3rd or 4th starter in an organization next season, but his age and mileage rules against him continuing in the following years. The move to package Betts and Price makes some sense if there is a slim chance of winning in 2020 since it would free up resources to go after him for the 2021 season. Like it or not, DD's moves put the organization in a tough position for the 2020 season and Bloom is here to engineer a way back to competitiveness at the highest level. Finding one or two solid young starting pitchers would be my point of emphasis.
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Price and Betts for Gonsolin and Pederson. $38 Mil savings. Serviceable outfielder and young pitcher. full reset with room to spend. Best sounding to me.
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A trade of Price and Betts to the Dodgers appears to be probable and would indeed allow for a reset in 2020. Will everyone on the board agree with that move? No! Is it likely to enhance our chances of moving forward in 2021? Yes, so I am for it. Maybe we can get Betts back in 2021.
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That is very likely one of the scenarios being discussed in the Sox front office. Reset, hold onto the best young core players and make a major effort starting in 2021. One very lean year might also get us a very good draft position.
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The talk is rachetting up of a Betts/Price move involving the Dodgers. That would define 2020 as a reset year but make 2021 a year to move forward. Something is likely to happen soon as both clubs have incentives to make it happen soon.
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Travis was DFA'd but it was a matter of letting go of someone and his number came up. We have other options at his position (assuming 1st base with some outfield). He as been a marginal player and hasn't shown a great deal of improvement so the choice made s ome sense.
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I'd take that deal if we can shed $10 Mil AAV
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Maybe we will see a deal (not just the one you mention) before the end of the year so we can shift into thinking about filling CF, BU Catcher and the like. I do think JBJ is traded, but not necessarily tied into the Price move.
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I am just relaying what the blog said, without adding my value judgment. You put your own spin on my input.
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I recently read a blog which was Not as optimistic about value (https://blogs.fangraphs.com/david-prices-trade-value/). Twenty mil x 3 looks like much more than we can expect and to get him traded, we might well have to add a ML player who is being paid less than his current worth. Beni was mentioned. I think Bloom is looking for his best offer. I hope your concept is correct but it doesn't line up with what I am reading.
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You're just pointing out that Bloom has been given a difficult job to do. To reset, he will have to trade quality assets, probably for lower quality replacements. Making these moves will obviously have consequences. Some people are clamoring for him to move quickly and then will probably complain when he does what is necessary. Whether it is Price, Eovaldi, Betts, JDM and/or JBJ, clearly some assets will go. It's up to Bloom to get the best value available for those assets while resetting. 2021 will then likely allow for more expenditures and reforming the team.
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The Dodgers might well devise a trade in which we would gain a usefull player while also gaining some salary benefit as well. Depends on how serious they are. prospects and us paying down part of Price's salary is another trade avenue. Bloom has to look for good opportunites to lose salary commitments without totally giving away a cmmitment to competitiveness.