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Mookie Betts and David Price have been traded to Dodgers
oldtimer replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Betts will get about $10 mil. Most people would think themselves wildly rich with that kind of income. -
The Yankees will be tough. We talked of expensive long term contracts on the Sox, but the Yankees also have one with Stanton. The difference is that Yankees still have a farm.
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Isn't the idea he espoused was to break up the two lefties hitting back to back but inserting JD in between? If so, he is thinking of Devers 3rd. Don't worry, if it doesn't work Roenicke will make a change. If we are not in a competitive position after 30 games, I would hope the Sox make changes like experimenting with younger talent and offloading guys who have underperformed. JBJ comes to mind and some of our pitching staff.
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Mookie Betts and David Price have been traded to Dodgers
oldtimer replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I have no idea how this deal is loaded but on average it is $30.4 mil per year. That will see the Dodgers paying big bucks for a great player now, but will he continue to be 5 years from now, 8 years from now? The risk is extremely high for the Dodgers and I am glad that the Sox did not make a similar offer, which would have hamstrung our organization going forward.As I remember, we did offer $30 mil for 10 years, which I thought was too rich given the Red Sox existing salary structure. That is not to denigrate Mookie who is a legitimate star player now. Mookie is a smallish guy whose game relies on his speed and physical health. Injuries and father time will cause his skills to deteriorate. It's just a matter of time. I'll give Bloom the benefit of the doubt, but I expect him to build a solid team that can compete year in and year out. It probably will take a few years, based on the need to recover from Dombrowski's moves -
The sample size is small. Give them a chance. Friday is when it begins to count.
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I hope so, but times they are a changing. Look at how many pitchers throw at 95 mph and above. Teams look for guys who can make contact with that kind of pitching. Guys like Chavis, who have trouble, learn to hit that velocity or are marginalized. I started being interested in MLBB around 1947 and you seldom saw a pitcher then with velocity that is almost a standard now. If guys like Eovaldi and Kimbrell (hard throwers) are dominant, then I hate to think of the impact on offensive stats, because that kind of heat will come inning after inning. Either that or pure velocity will get to be common and hitters will find a way to adjust. For any of you who has stood in a batters box with 80 mph stuff coming at you, it is hard to imagine hitting the 100 mph stuff, but some do.
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I also believe Pedey's contract was unwise, although he was well loved by the fans. When sentimentality gets involved, better opportunities are lost. A club can't be as successful when management tosses away budget room on a bad bet.
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There are issues with being able to construct and maintain a minor league program capable of feeding the major league team with a few good players each year. The main issue that I see is the draft choices successful teams acquire are later selections. That means the selectors must be wise and the development team must be first class. It also means that clubs avoid trading away top prospects without getting great value in return. Finally, it should be a goal to avoid further penalties associated with the competitive balance tax. It comes down to having a high quality management. Luck also plays a part. Sore arms, illnesses and bouncing balls can change the fortune of a team, but a sound approach should provide the best result overall. Forgive my use of bolded print as it is easier for me to read these days.
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Absolutely. A team needs to draw from the farm team every year so needs assets that can make the transition every year in order to stay within the competitive value tax guidelines. I haven't done a study on the average turnover rate of the team's roster, but I assume at least 3 new faces need to transition from the farm per year along with free agents and trades to keep the team viable and keep the payroll reasonable. Dombrowski didn't seem to have that in mind and the impact may be felt on a longer term basis. The win now without considering the long term consequences may be acceptable to some fans, but not to me.
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Neither can I. I'll stick with the idea of budgeting the salaries for various position players. The goal would be to stay just under the competitive balance tax (possibly exceeding it on occasion). Clearly the most value would be in the up the middle players, first couple of starters and possibly a closer. Budgeting next for starters and then for remaining pitchers and utility players. Players in each category would get a unique percentage if the total available. Risk would be managed by avoiding excessively long contracts and also those based on sentimentality. As far as paying huge salaries that don't fit the budgeted concept, I would not. As far as taking on high risk long term contracts, I wouldn't do that either. Bring more balance into the apportionment of salaries and reduce risk for more consistency of results.
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How does he know what it feels like to be 100 years old. Damn lucky, I would think.
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I totally agree. This thread is about whether there will be a season. That appears to be only related to the COVID-19 pandemic and the decision lies in the hands of government entities as they monitor the spread and impact of the virus.
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Munoz is the Swiss Army knife type, he can play a wide variety of positions and can hit. Kind of a Brock Holt type. Has he got the temperament to succeed? At 25, he may be an excellent utility man to have on the team and possibly more.
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I have been a fan for a very long while but the events of this year have left me in a frame of mind where MLB is no longer of much interest. Whether the shortened season is played or not is of little consequence to me. Perhaps I will think this way permanently and will just not maintain any interest. How many fans have been impacted by the player/owner disputes, the corona virus, the so called woke generation expressed values? I don't know, but I bet I'm not alone.
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I don't see regaining my interest in mlb until 2021 at the earliest.
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It is still likely that the season will be cancelled due to corona virus, based on the upsurge in cases around the country. We have seen large groups gathering for protests, riots, at bars and at block parties to name a few. Because of the transmissability of the virus it doesn't, didn't take much to push the number of cases up. I wouldn't be surprised if the newly agreed upon season craters.
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I have felt that way for some time and it looks like a combination of continuing virus impacts and the difficulty in negotiations may well eliminate the season altogether. It may also be true of other sports as well. Owners will lose money, I assume players will not be paid, the economic impact of the shutdown of many if not all large scale sports on the communities they serve, hotels and airlines they use. Once shutdown for a year I would imagine it will be difficult to return the sports at the same levels as the past. Lots of bad blood, etc.The corona virus will not be licked until a vaccine is developed and put into common use. Maybe sports will need to reinvent themselves and become more fan friendly. It's difficult for me to relate to a person who gets paid $1000 for each game pitch he throws. I imagine others feel similar sentiments.
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There has been a ton of anti-owner sentiment on this site with very little accountability going to the players. The fact is that it costs a lot to go to a game these days and attendance numbers have been reflecting that. Costs have spiraled and both ticket prices and concessions,including parking, are high. I paid $50 a ticket for a ST game with very few top red sox players present. The middle class families cannot afford the current costs. We need more exciting baseball, lower costs and less labor strife to keep the game meaningful to the fans. That will eventually mean lower salaries if attendance figures continue to decline.
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I include this U-tube address. Drag bunts can be exciting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOVJXTfamsY
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How about a hitter who could lay down successful drag bunts. The bunt seems like a lost art these days.
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There was no give from the players either, after it became evident that there would be no fans allowed. They also stand to lose if there is no season and if they strike in 2021 there might be reduced salaries or none at all. Its a pipe dream to assume the players could develop a league of their own and be successful. What I hear on this site is that it is all the owners fault for not agreeing to a money losing arrangement. In my view, the players are equally at fault and stand to lose a lot as well.
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We are seeing new spikes in some states. Small wonder with the protests and riots on the one hand and the carelessness exhibited at bars, pool parties and the beach as reported on TV. I would guess a large number of people are still, observing social distancing, hand cleaning and face mask use, but many don't. It could well doom any world series if we get a strong return of the virus in the fall. I doubt if cooler heads will prevail during the negotiations. A 50 game season won't be satisfying and will hurt the game long term. It may be best to let the season go and better luck in 2021, provided there isn't a prolonged strike to kick off next year.
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It looks like a reasonable offer from the owners, with some give. Lets see what develops.
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Clearly the situation has changed due to the virus. The pie is smaller so the slice should be smaller. Makes sense to me although the players have a point in saying they want to see the club financial statements to understand how big the pie is. As far as the number of games this year, the players offered 114, which some believe are possible. I would think something around 70 would make sense while Manfred is at 48. Lets hope they reach agreement. From the information leaking out, owners and players are close on the opt out definition. Still, I think it will come back to money, it always does.
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Big surprise with Yorke. Don't understand the reasoning.