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If Dalbec is our 7th best prospect, it doesn't speak well of our farm.
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Does anyone on the board think keeping Mookie and Price would have helped us to make the playoffs this year? I think not. So we get the reset without dumping other high salary players, go into 2021 with an opportunity to make important additions to the club and to undo some of the damage that DD wreaked on us and we lowered the risk level associated with big long term contracts. Seems to me to be a reasonable trade and there was doubt Mookie would take the Boston offer in any case. Word on the street is we offered $300 Mil over 10 years, not exactly chump change. To my way of thinking, Bloom made the best move under the circumstances.[/size][/b]
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Exactly.
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Signing Mookie to such a large long term deal and having Bogaerts, Sale, Eovaldi and JDM with big contracts and the Price contract hangover would have made it difficult to sign a couple more quality pitchers and fill some of the obvious gaps in the lineup. A 12 year deal is a high risk deal. It just wasn't right for the Sox at that time. We got a nice young player in Verdugo. It won't be that long until Devers will expect to be paid. Mookie is a great young player and it would have been nice to keep him in a Sox uniform. Too bad circumstances didn't permit it to happen.
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We have big time pitching needs. The auditions going on nightly may identify a couple of relievers but right now we have to hope we can bring up a starter, get E-rod back, Get some value out of Eovaldi as a starter and find a starter in the FA market along with a number of quality relievers and possibly a closer. Lot to hope for in a single year. The draft won't help the team in 2021. We also have problems with position players. We have RF, SS, DH, 3rd(ist?) and C covered. Can't count on CF as he is a FA and will probably test the market. LF is a question mark as are 1st and 2nd base. I assume we will get rid of some of the duplicate players by parting with the weakest or maybe all of the very weak players. Funny that we are not auditioning Durran as he may wind up playing center out of need. Pitching signings should be where we spend our money in 2021.
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Every time I see him he looks outstanding defensively. Somehow the stats don't lineup and maybe I don't see enough games. The streaky hitting is what hurts his value.
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I think what Kimmi means is the club will be competitive in 2021 but unlikely to be contending for a deep playoff run. She can of course speak for herself, but the Sox have a long way to go to be back in contention and it will likely take a number of positive steps and time (2022 at least) to rebuild the team and strengthen the minors. so far Bloom is doing what I would have expected given the constraints and the state of things when he got here.
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Or mental. Depression maybe? It also could be his so called rib strain was torn cartilege. I played a lot of football many years ago. I broke ribs and on a separate occasion I tore cartilege. The later was more painful and it took me over 6 weeks to start to feel whole again.
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My understanding is Arauz is a rule 5 player and we have to keep him with the team or return him. He has some value so we will no doubt keep him through the 2020 season, but I can't see him being with the team in 2021. I not impressed with his 2nd base skills and he has plate disciple but doesn't offer a lot offensively. Time to thin down the second base options and perhaps get a more capable player
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Bloom needs to consider management and coaching changes for 2021. We need more enthusiasm and more demanding leaders. Why are so many of our players under performing? It's on the players but also on the atmosphere and expectations. If the players are not capable, replace them. If it is in their heads, help them.
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Maybe it's more than a rib cage strain.
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We still will pay him next year.
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We really just have one outfielder for 2021 as a sure thing and he is Verdugo. Bradley may be back but as a FA, we may not want to compete with $s or yrs. Beni is with us but can we rely on him to be a factor for us? He was trending down for quite a while now. Duran looks very possible for next season so I wonder why they just didn't try him this year. If we have Verdugo, Beni and either JBJ or Duran, we wind up with 3 left hand hitting outfielders. Maybe resigning Pillar as a FA would be a better bet.
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Dalbec was known to be a power hitter with a high strikeout rate in the minors. We brought him up out of need and to learn if he will be an acceptable first baseman for next year. He is 26 years old so this is his chance to shine. It's too early to tell much, but so far he doesn't seem to have a good feel for the strike zone nor is he good at pitch recognition. He has power if he can connect. Sort of another Chavis. That said, I am still wondering if Devers will stick at the hot corner, based on his high error rate so far this year. The hope was that his errors would go down as he gained experience. Maybe the idea of moving him to 1st should be resurrected and we should be looking for a third baseman who can hit.
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So we won't know the full extent of the traded PTNL for Pillar and Osich for a month or does the season include the Playoffs?
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With Pillar gone and Beni still iffy, I think Duran comes up.
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It has a bad Odor to me.
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What ever happened to Beni. I believe this thread is about him?
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Be interesting to see where we sit with Salary and benefits relative to the CBT threshold after the trade deadline. We will reset and may have significant money to spend just to reach the threshold. Will we play it cool in 2021 and go big in 2022? I can see the logic of staying reset until we think we have a chance to win the pennant.
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I think they bring up Duran if they trade either JBJ or Pilllar. My view is Lin is gone in 2021 anyway and there may be more to Beni's time off than just sore ribs. If there is space, Duran makes the most sense.
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You lose the whole concept of team when you trade away the key players, especially when it is not forced by circumstances, as was the case with Mookie. I too would have liked to see Moreland with us through the 2021 season but perhaps the trade at least makes some sense. Trading Bogaerts or Devers or Vaz would be steps too far. The name of the game is to rebuild the team around the core and to greatly strengthen the prospect list. Verdugo is the only player added so far that has made the team while the others are part of the prospect list. I predict we will still see Bradley and Barnes lost today, so it will be difficult enough to find a familiar face.
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My view was who will get called up was dependent on who Bloom traded. The Moreland trade left room for Dalbec. A trade of JBJ would leave room for Duran. I would have liked Moreland to be around in 2021 as a platoon player but that depended on who we got back as prospects. Whether they can make the team or be available as trade chips, they do strengthen our minors. Bloom is not standing pat. Maybe we get another trade before the deadline. Is Barnes next?
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The Mookie and Price trade doesn't even look bad at present, under the circumstances. Verdugo is an above average outfielder at low cost and we have two other high prospects. We would have paid Mookie $30 Mil with our offer of 10 years and would have had the full Price contract at $32 Mil, now reduced to half that. I doubt if Price is worth half his contract going forward. The Workman and Hembree trade for one possible ML pitcher and a high prospect starting pitcher looks like a very good trade for the Sox. We were going nowhere in 2019 and Workman was going into FA next year. It's not easy making beneficial trades and I hope that Bloom makes no giveaway trades. It has to help us or don't make the trade and don't worry about the inevitable criticism by the fan base.
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I look at some of our guys and think of Bill Parcells saying. (you are what your record says you are). Results do count. How could we trade guys like JDM or Beni? They are not getting the results that their salaries would warrant. What other GM would take them? The only few players we could trade, we probably should keep with few exceptions.
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Is Eovaldi being held out due to a calf strain or is he already designated in a trade and they are holding him out for that reason?