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Congratulations to all!
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I had a similar experience on a Yankee forum. I would get trashed as a Mariner fan but would respond with good-natured ribbing, offending the moderators’ delicate sensibilities.
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According to Baseball Trade Values, Andrew Vaughn has a surplus value of $52 million and Nick Madrigal a surplus value of $38.4 million while David Price has a negative value of $60 million: https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/467/ https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/604/ Those are tough starting points for a trade. Hate to say it, but the Red Sox may be the desperate team this offseason. Or not.
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FWIW, so far the Red Sox have paid David Price $1.21 million per regular-season appearance or $205,782 per inning. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/priceda01.shtml
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What would be the appropriate return in a trade of David Price (and the $96 million remaining on his contract)?
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Calling All Budgies - the Red Sox 2020 payroll thread
harmony replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Roster Resource offers its budget numbers as well: https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/red-sox -
Pitchers tend to experience declining production under seven-year contracts, especially when the contract is signed after the pitcher's 30th birthday. In his four seasons with the Red Sox, David Price has posted 10.6 fWAR, valued at $85 million, while being paid $121 million. Over the most recent three seasons Price has posted 6.2 fWAR, valued at $49.8 million. As a point of reference, Rick Porcello, who is three years younger, recently signed a one-year, $10 million contract after posting the same 6.2 fWAR, valued at $49.8 million, over the past three seasons. https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=6&season=2019&month=0&season1=2017&ind=0&team=3&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate=
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So should the Red Sox endure the up to $100 million in consequences for failing to get under the luxury tax threshold for the third straight year? https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2019/12/10/here-what-red-sox-would-face-they-don-get-under-luxury-tax-threshold-this-year/PCjGCkeVgdj23kGMUN4aaL/story.html
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As the article reports, that deadline day Seattle fans were more upset about the trade of Jose Cruz for relievers than the trade of the floundering Jason Varitek and Derek Lowe.
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Especially if David Price is the pitcher suffering the injury.
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The Red Sox could waive Wil Myers and still save $17+ million annually over three years for luxury tax purposes. It would not be a trade to improve the Red Sox on the field; it would be a trade to help avoid the up to $100 million in consequences for failing to get under the luxury tax threshold: https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2019/12/10/here-what-red-sox-would-face-they-don-get-under-luxury-tax-threshold-this-year/PCjGCkeVgdj23kGMUN4aaL/story.html
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Trivia: Of the deadline trades between the Boston Red Sox and Seattle Mariners in 1996-97, what player produced the most WAR for his new team? Some trades work out better than others.
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Calling All Budgies - the Red Sox 2020 payroll thread
harmony replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
They're moving targets. The numbers will change after the Red Sox sign Ryon Healy. Or not. -
Calling All Budgies - the Red Sox 2020 payroll thread
harmony replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The ongoing tally from Cot's: ... and from Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/boston-red-sox/payroll/ -
Thanks. $18,216,667 over, to be precise. And the competing Spotrac numbers at $28,453,333: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/boston-red-sox/payroll/
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The specific Cot's numbers would be welcome as well.
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The offered numbers are welcome here.
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Gotta believe that at least one of Mookie Betts, David Price or J.D. Martinez will be traded. If they planned to exceed the luxury tax threshold the Red Sox would not be messing with the small contracts of Jose Peraza and Martin Perez. Or not.
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The Red Sox reportedly have signed lefthander Martin Perez to a one-year, $6 million contract with a $6.25 million option for a second year: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=perez-011mar Will the Sox make a move to get under the luxury tax threshold?
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Perhaps because this year Jose Peraza posted a negative 0.6 fWAR in 141 games? https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jose-peraza/13593/stats?position=2B/SS
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And the San Diego Padres don't want David Price, certainly not with a $96 million price tag. According to Baseball Trade Values, a trade of David Price and Jackie Bradley Jr. to San Diego for Wil Myers and Manual Margot would be a moderate overpay for the Padres: https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/ ... but would apparently get the Red Sox under the luxury tax threshold, avoiding up to $100 million in long-range consequences: https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2019/12/10/here-what-red-sox-would-face-they-don-get-under-luxury-tax-threshold-this-year/PCjGCkeVgdj23kGMUN4aaL/story.html
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A trade of David Price for Wil Myers makes too much sense with the annual $17+ million AAV savings for luxury tax purposes. Myers may not be an attractive return but his AAV provides a heightened benefit to the Sox. Perhaps the San Diego Padres would balk at the deal. Or not.
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Thanks.
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Sources? https://www.google.com/search?q=price+benintendi&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS816US816&sxsrf=ACYBGNSr8g2_1dlZI5WMSLRo9jRvvGT9sQ:1576186831333&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPobnBibHmAhWOVs0KHY2xB1gQ_AUoAXoECAsQAw&biw=1366&bih=625
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According to Baseball Trade Values, David Price has a negative value of $60 million and Andrew Benintendi a surplus value of $35.9 million: https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/604/