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Everything posted by notin
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Regardless, I provided a definition of elective surgery. I will admit I didn’t look exhaustively. You said it was not an elective surgery, but that was in direct conflict with the definition. So until you provide another definition that does include this type of surgery (and from a more credible source would be nice), it is an elective surgery. You’re welcome to challenge the definition I provided with another that does allow for TJ surgery.. As I grabbed the first Google match, naturally my definition came from Wikipedia, who had a sole sourced article. Not always the best authority. Medicine.net has a simpler definition as “surgery planned in advance by choice of either the patient or doctor.” Again, nothing about career-threatening. And essentially the same idea..,
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In NY definitely right now. Didn’t he go to a Florida for it?
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Actually I simply misread your question. As for Sale’s pending surgery, I’ve heard nothing since MLBTR published the article...
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I think you’re stretching the definition of an emergency. Before Tommy John, this type of tear was an immediate career ending for numerous pitchers, all of whom moved on and did not starve to death. We all get this surgery will likely be inconsequential. We all even want Sale to get back on the mound ASAP. But there is a definition of an elective surgery that neither of us wrote, but it absolutely applies to Syndergaard’s, and trying to personalize that scenario on me doesn’t change that fact. (And my wife had a surgery canceled this past week.)
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I’d hate it, because I know he’d be out until 2022. But I would certainly understand why...
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It’s been mentioned. I’ve heard a lot of it went to software a while back, which annoyed me. I wanted that job!
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If all the doctors in my area were attending to a pandemic, I wouldn’t even be given the opportunity to decline the surgery...
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For hospital attention? It shouldn’t matter. Whoever bleeds the most or breathes the least should be at the front of the line. Let me guess. When you watched “The Titanic”, you were rooting for Billy Zane...
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The definition of elective surgery is “surgery that is performed in advance because it does not involve a medical emergency.” Nothing to do with a person’s career...
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I think it was wrong, but for the message it sends out. This singular surgery itself will ultimately be meaningless in the pandemic. While along the same line, I would rate this below the OKC Thunder testing 58 players and employees at a time when even the CDC could only garner up 77 tests for the remainder of the people in this country...
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But the impact on them post-baseball - the much larger part of their lives - will be nothing. TJ surgeries last on average 600 IP or about 3 years. That might be the length of the career for both. Chris Sale has a net worth of about $24 million, and is owed about 5 times that much still on his contract. Syndergaard, still in his arbitration years, is already worth $15 mill. If neither player ever picked up a baseball again, they’d both be more than set for life...
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My point, but without Titanic imagery...
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No.. But did this one surgery make any real difference? Also no. But it does convey the message that people with money will get the medicines they want while the rest of us scrounge for ventilators and rubbing alcohol...
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Exactly. Neal ElAttrache is an orthopedic surgeon specializing in sports medicine. He isn’t very likely to do much in the wake of the COVID pandemic, although he wouldn’t be complete useless in that capacity. He did use valuable surgical PPE to perform this surgery. But it’s not like we are one N95 mask away from wiping out the corona virus. In the grand scheme, this surgery was inconsequential. But it also sends the wrong message. While people are struggling for their survival against this pandemic, and doctors and nurses and placed in the direct line of fire with rapidly dwindling resources, this high profile surgery gets performed and, along with the OKC Thunder testing, sends a huge message to most of America that they truly are steerage who get to fight for remaining life boat seats once the “important people” are properly taken care of...
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Actually others were making that point in a discussion of Syndergaard’s TJ. I was just providing supplemental proof...
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Probably not the ideal place for socialism chatter, but socialism itself is actually defined as “community control of production, distribution and exchange.” While it obviously gets more complicated on a grander scale, it’s actually supposed to be all about business. Not sure how it got refined to meAn “government pays you to stay home and sleep” sort of thing that gets bandied about nowadays...
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That the wealthy get better access is exactly the point I am making, and exactly what Syndergaard is proving as well...
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He’s definitely pro Yankee, but right now if he needs some mildly entertaining welcome relief, we’re all cool with it...
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No I’m suggesting the CDC should have had MUCH GREATER access and ability to test individuals who wanted to be tested than any single pro sports team....
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We knew that was true once the final NBA box score was tallied: CDC:77 OKC Thunder 58 That was for COVID-19 tests administered (by that date)...
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Exactly. I get the NBA suspending it’s season. Even if they played in front of fans, one infected player could take out two teams. But baseball players don’t really crowd as much on the field and they bring in a new ball any time it hits the ground or any glove besides the pitcher and catcher anyway. So why not? The only real risk is if a catcher or the home plate umpire is infected...
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Two solid months of daily triple headers would also work...
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If MLB players would agree to play in front of empty stadiums, they could start a lot sooner. The Marlins have already agreed to this. But seriously, televised games in the wake of our lack of entertainment options would be a very good thing, a no team sport is less conducive to spreading disease than baseball is...
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Thor would be better off just learning to pitch left-handed...
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This was the leading cause of MRSA cases about 15 years ago, I believe
