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McGuire was a vet, so not a sell. It was more of a salary dump vet for vet deal. I'd call that deadline a sell, due to the Vaz trade, and the others were so minor and or involved us getting prospects, that I just can't call it even an attempt at buying.

We got prospects with him and paid part of his deal. It was neither buy nor sell and not really both.

You didn't say "big names," but you really call trading scrub prospects for Pham and then getting scrub prospects w Hosmer "buying?" That was my point. It's a huge stretch to call that or trading for Urias and Llovera "buying." Do you honestly consider that buying? It's almost like picking up guys off waivers.

Are you seriously calling trade for Luis Urias and Llovera attempts at buying? I wouldn't call trading for Hosmer and Pham a "buy deadline," either. Am I missing a big name we traded for in '22 or '23? Forget a big name, am I missing even a decent name?

The Sell idea has a lot of merit, and for once, we have some guys with decent trade value: The 1 year guys: Bregman has option years and is on the IL, but if he is healthy of close to it, he'd bring back a nice return. (Remember, when we signed Schwarber, he was not ready to play.) Chapman, assuming he is still going strong in 6 weeks, would bring back a decent return. Buehler would not bring back much, right now, but if healthy and doing well, he could. Wilson could get a decent prospect- same with Refsnyder. Giolito and Hendriks are long shots at bringing anything back, except maybe salary relief for JH. Log-jammed vets: Story & Yoshida are like Gio & Hendriks, only more expensive and more years left to go. Casas would be selling low, IMO. Duran, Abreu or Rafaela to make room for Anthony and maybe/eventually Jh Garcia. Toro and or Romy? I'd keep both around as having more future value to us than anyone else. Wong, Wink, Sogard and DHam will not bring much of anything back, but some team may want/need their services enough to give us something, and help us free up a roster slot for another guy.

The only time, we sort of bought AND sold was when we "sold" Vaz for Abreu & E Valdez, while making a bunch of minor "buys" like Pham, Hosmer and a sideways move of Diekman for R McGuire. I'm not sure I'd call this a Buy/Sell deadline, but it's the closest one, IMO. 2020: Total SELL: Workman & Hembree for Pivetta & Seabold was sort of sideways, except we gave up rentals for a younger MLB pitcher and a prospects, Pillar for J Wallace, Osich for PTBNL & Moreland for Potts & J Rosario. 2021: Total BUY: Aldo Ramirez for Schwarber, plus a couple minor buys like Chavis for A Davis and Scherff for Robles. Two, later additions helped, alot: Travis Shaw off waivers & signing Iggy in SEPT. 2022: See above 2023: BUY??? Scrubs like Llovera & Luis Urias? Sell??? (perhaps about to be DFA'd) Kike for prospects N Robertson J Hagenman. This was a clear DO NOTHING deadline by Bloom- not a buy, not a sell and not a buy & sell.

I'm with notin, here. Sell Story (+ $$$) and an OF'er not named Anthony, most likely for prospects or a RP & a prospect. Then, buy, using chosen prospects, not named Anthony, Campbell or Mayer, unless we get someone like Crochet with 2+ years of team control and the ability to extend. I'd look to keep Arias, but to get a real good pitcher without trading one of the big 3, he probably has to go. (We have to keep once from Mayer and Arias, IMO.) There farther away prospects don't bring back what they used to, but some have been moving up the farm ranks and are not so far away, anymore. Perales (AA) is on the IL, but he still has good trade value. Tolle, Clarke & Valera are all in A+, now. The AA guys are lower ranked: Early, Sandlin & Monegro. Arias (A+) & Romero (AA) have real trade value, too. The AAA guy with 40 man roster status is Jh Garcia, who is raking, right now. Unless we plan to play him at 1B/DH, he's essentially blacked. If we end up trading Duran, Abreu or Rafaela, then we could keep him in the system. Bleis (A+) and Cespedes (A-) might be the last two prospects holding significant trade value, right now- maybe Justin Gonzalez (A-) too. Add-ins might include Jordan, Uberstine & Penrod (AAA,) Ehrhard, Mullins or Wehunt in AA and Taylor, Jo Garcia & Paez (A+) If there is one thing our farm has, it is quantity of promising prospects, along with a few that just joined the top 100 or are looking to come close.

It would be great for several of our players to deserve winning the award, but for a few, not to win it.

Woo has won 9 of 10. Mullins threw 1 hit 5 innings and has an ERA of 2.45 for POR. Holobetz went 5.1 allowing 1 ER in GRE's win. Bleis 2-4 and now at .822. GRE has won 7 of 10 and leads their division, so far. SAL is 10 games under .500, and FCL is 3 under.

The guy is a monster! I think we need to give him a 1Bman's mitt and have him ready by April '26. By '27... C Narvaez & Jo Garcia 1B Jh Garcia (Devers) 2B Campbell (Romero) SS Arias (Mayer) 3B Mayer (Romero) LF Anthony (Jh Garcia) CF Rafaela (Campbell-Bleis) RF Abreu (Bleis) DH Devers (Jh Garcia)

Assume Abreu starts v every R (70%) and Ref vs every L (30%,) that leaves 3 OF'ers, Duran, Anthony and Rafaela to split time. Playing every day may not be needed but 67% is not really enough. I guess you could sit Duran v every L, so that's 70% play time. Rafaela plays vs every L and then 10-15% of R's, as Anthony plays 85-90% of all games. I don't see Anthony or Duran playing 1B. I'm not sure torid Toro continues, either.

It is great to have and keep depth, but when you have some pretty big holes in the 26, it seems to make sense to trade from strength and fill those needs.

You punster, you! Love it! LMAO on the "ignoramus" thingy.

Wow. Nine. I play bridge, mostly online, and I think I lead the site in players on my ignore list, but rudeness and incompetence runs rampant on that site. (I have a 2 strike rule for rudeness and 3 strikes for incompetence. 1 or each and it's bye-bye.)

They do usually work themselves out, and assuming total health is almost always folly. It is a good problem to have, and quite unusual for a team with the 4th or 5th worst record in the AL. We will have some hard choices in the months to come, unless we have some more injuries. If we do have some major injuries, then not only is the choice problem solved, teh choices won't matter until this winter and next season, anyway. I like to look ahead and wonder "what if." That's a trait that is not always worthwhile.

Okay, but are his overall numbers that far away from Toro's AAA numbers? My post was made in jest, anyway. I've been posting how we have no room for all 14 deserving players, so adding Eaton makes zero sense. BTW, Eaton is 4-8 w 2 Hrs in a 2B in last 2 games, and since May 27: 13-37 (.351) w 3HRs & 8 XBHs (3BB & 2 HBP) That's pretty "hot."

Okay, thanks. I'm not sure I'm at that point with anyone, yet. I did ignore Red a few times on the previous format, more out of sparing others the grief of listening to us go at each other than out of personal insults against me, but maybe someday... LOL. I think this site has been pretty good for a long while. Of course, there have been some razzles and close calls, but you've done a good job keeping it relatively tame. Thanks.

DHam really heated up, last summer, so maybe he's a hot weather guy. Once Bregman returns, DHam will be in AAA, maybe sooner. Since Wong's return on May 2nd, he's played 9 complete games and started 11. 5 of those complete games were in teh first 11 days of his return. Since May 12th, he has been a clear back-up Catcher, playing aboiut what the normal back-up catcher plays: 1 out of every 4 or 5 games. He's played in 11 games from May 13 to today, and 4 of them are playing just the last 1-2 innings. He's started 7 out of the last 26 games. That is closer to 1 in 4 than 1 in 5. He didn't finish 2 of those 7, so he's played 5 complete games in the team's last 26, which included one doubleheader. Maybe Wong has played 1-2 too many games, IMO.

I didn't even realize that this site has an "ignore" function. How do you put someone on ignore?

I'm not for banning anyone, and I do find many of TYPM's posts hilariously funny and the unintentional aspect intriguing. What gets me is, that many of his posts attack others while he calls out others for attacking him. There is something about hypocrisy that activates an irritant. I know I've been accused as coming across as a "know-it-all," and I don't mean to be, but the way TYPM posts is to an extreme in this way, and when the points made are often so blatantly and factually wrong, it does become comical, but more in a tragic comedy sense than a "ha-ha" way.

Romy is like the new Refsnyder. Yes, others can try to play 1B, but will they hit .950 v LHPs, like Romy is now? (he hit .879 v L in 2024.) It can't be Toro, at least at this moment. I totally understand Anthony > Romy or Mayer>Romy and probably KC>Romy for the remainder of 2025, but even if we assume DHama and Romy go to AAA, we still have a hug playing time issue. It makes more sense to me, to keep Romy and Toro going at 1B and trading a vet to allow FT or near FT to everyone who deserves it and to keep the great platoons we have alive. I guess we can just say "Trade Story," but we still have an OF overload. Do we bench Duran v L and Rafaela vs R to give Anthony near FT action? (I'm not benching Abreu v R or Ref v L.) That sits our 2nd or 3rd best OPS guy (Rafaela for 70% of the games.) Do we force Anthony to 1B (DH, if Devers plays 1B?) I don't like these ideas, even for half a season. In the IF, if we trade Story, there is FT duty for Mayer & Campbell. Campbell to 1B allows us to keep Story, but is that worth it? (I say No.) It's like we have to trade Story AND one from Duran, Abreu or Rafaela. We keep hearing "Duran" or "Abreu," but not so much "Rafaela," who has built up his value to the Sox, but also his trade value. Including Rafaela the actual Story trade could greatly reduce the amount of money needed to include in the deal, but the return would almost certainly be a prospect- not a young pitcher we need.

I do think the year of control aspect played a role in the timing of the call-ups, but to me the main idea was to not call anyone up, unless there was a way to play them FT or very close to FT, otherwise, we'd be hampering their development not enhancing it. Quite simply put Drewski is right (and I have said this for year) we are NOT benching Refsnyder vs LHPs. (We could probably say the same about Romy.) We are not benching Duran and Abreu vs RHPs. Do we really want to bench our 2nd best bWAR & 3rd best fWAR guy, Rafaela? All of this pretty much blocked Anthony, unless you are on the play Anthony at 1B boat or force Devers to play 1B and start the rookie out at DH boat. The Mayer path was opened with the Bregman injury, but before that, it was going to be a Mayer vs Story or Mayer vs Campbell choice, unless you were piloting the Campbell at 1B boat. Sure, looking back at Story's bad start on O and D, it's easy to say "Trade or DFA Story," or we should have before, but that is not an easy choice. We handed Campbell the 2B job our of ST'ing, and it looked like a great idea, before he started slumping badly, but now he's looking okay. The kids will get their shots, but they should not be on the 26, unless they play in 90% of the games. Do the math. If we are not going to bench a vet or some platoon players that are doing awesome in their roles, it can't be done. Trading Story with a huge chunk of cash, is a solution for Mayer, but the Anthony case is more complicated and involves benching or trading someone doing a very nice job in their current role. When Abreu comes back, we will have to make a very difficult choice. The Story choice is not all that easy, either, especially when you figure we are already paying Yoshida $18M a year to just sit around. Money matters to JH & Brez. I doubt they want to give up on Story, now or when Bregman returns (deadlinish?) Rafaela to 2B takes away his big plus on CF D and crowds out Campbell or Mayer, unless we go back to the Campbell at 1B boat or wagon. It does allow for Anthony to play FT wihtout trading Duran or Abreu.

One more pitcher added the the list over two dozen names long that have some level of decent promise- even as just a good RP'er.

Even with DHam in AAA, we'll still have 14 players, assuming all healthy. Two are Toro and Romy, but as of now, they are doing a really good job at 1B, combined. I guess we could just demote one of them, but then we run into issues with finding near FT playing for the 3 kids and all the vets, but someone will probably be on the IL, slumping so badly that a benching/demotion could occur or be traded (Story? Abreu or Duran?) I can't see trading Refsnyder, as long as Abreu is our RF'er vs RHPs. I can't see us trading a top 3 prospect. I doubt we trade Rafaela and his tremendous CF defense and ability to play so many positions, well enough. Devers is here forevers. Bregman is not being traded. Trading Wong does not open a slot for Romy/Toro of give more playing time to others on the list of 14. Toro sucks vs LHPs and Romy kinda sucks vs RHPs, so we need both or find a 1Bman that bats .800 vs L & R.

Toro .883 in AAA, this year. Eaton .855 and hot as hell. Thompson at .796 was tongue in cheek.