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fangraphs has a baserunning number as part of their WAR calculation. It's on their "value page". 6.5 Betts 5.4 Bogey 5.4 JBJ 1.8 Holt 1.3 Hernandez 1.1 Swihart 0.3 Young 0.2 Castillo, Rutledge & Hill 0.1 Marrero & Martinez o.o Everyone not listed here -0.1 Hanigan -0.3 LaMarre -0.5 Shaw -0.9 Vaz & Ram -4.7 Pedey (People want him leading off.) -6.4 Ortiz (Says his feet feel fine now.)

Will they take Bradley, Devers and E Rod and couple of more mid tier prospects? Bradley, Betts and ERod all have more control than Bogey. I want to keep the B's (Betts, Bogey, Bradley & Beni) along with the M (Moncada). Blow up the rest for all I care! Hope I feel better in the morning.

The bottom line is to never fall in love with a player...no one is worth $30m per year... These huge signings hardly ever work out, even in the early years. People always say, you pay big for the early years and expect the later years to get burned, but it doesn't even work out that way too often to make it worth the risk. Encarnacion will want a 5 or 6 year deal. He may even get 7 from someone. At this point, I wish we had just kept all the kids and stuck with the "five year plan". If we trade for Sale, he'll suck the second we get him. That's how it feels in my gut right now. This sucks!

Price is really starting to piss me off. Yes, David Price.

Will they start "early" by signing someone long term after 2017? 1B: Hosmer ? OF: L Cain ? SP: J Arrietta ?

That is true, but our offense has carried us to a surprising good 19-23 record in games not started by Porcello, Wright and Price, so we could rob Peter to pay Paul and be right where we are now. [/b]

Money or no money, Price has not pitched to expectations.

They're all BUMS! Just kidding.

So, put Papi up second? Interesting to see JBJ up second tonight. If Beni or Moncada can develop into an OBP machine, our roster construction of the future would be a lot easier.

With tomorrow off, one wonders why...

The problem now is we are only left with a 4 top prospects, so if we do make the big blockbuster for an ace, we'll have essentially stripped almost all of our top prospects from the farm since DD took over. My guess is it will take Beni or Moncada plus Devers, and it might take Swihart or ERod/Kopech as well. Let's say we trade Beni, Devers and Kopech for Sale, that would mean we'd have Moncada and recent graduate Swihart as the only top prospects left (plus Groome). Gone would be Beni, Espi, Margot, Devers, Kopech and Guerra plus Allen and Basabe.

Next year, we may see Moncada at 3B, Shaw at 1B and HanRam at DH, but Holt is a worse hitter than HanRam and a worse fielding 3Bman than Shaw (debatable).

HanRam is better than Holt- that's why.

Yes, the weakness has been with SP'ing. Agreed.

Some Sox notes from MLBTR.... *** Left-hander Rich Hill, whom the Dodgers acquired from Oakland on Monday, would’ve preferred to go to either the Orioles or Red Sox at the non-waiver trade deadline, reports Cafardo. Those are two of the journeyman’s many former major league employers, and the 36-year-old Massachusetts native revived his career with Boston in 2015. The Orioles were in on Hill prior to the deadline and are likely to target him this winter if he hits free agency as arguably the premier starter in a weak market. *** Before the Red Sox picked up reliever Brad Ziegler from Arizona on July 9, they were looking at White Sox closer David Robertson as a possible trade target, Cafardo writes. For now, Robertson remains in Chicago. The 31-year-old still has $28.5MM remaining on his contract and hasn’t been as effective this season as he was previously, having compiled a 3.97 ERA, 10.13 K/9 and 4.57 BB/9 in 45 1/3 innings. *** The Red Sox aggressively tried to acquire right fielder and designated hitter Carlos Beltran before the archrival Yankees traded him to the Rangers, according to Cafardo, who adds that a deal was close enough that Boston expected it to happen. Of course, after failing to land Beltran, the Sox promoted elite left field prospect Andrew Benintendi to the majors. Maybe we'll sign Hill and Robertson this winter. I'm glad we missed out on Beltran as my guess is the return would have been significant.

Brian McCann cleared waivers and may be dealt this August.

Being a switch hitter may help as well, but his career splits show a 160 point edge vs lefties. The only time in his 10 seasons on the farm in which he had a prolonged hitting stretch was in 2012 with an .856 OPs in 231 PAs. His other best stretch was during the fall league of 2013, when he had a .938 OPS in 142 PAs. After that, his best stretch was .701 in 2009 low A ball. I'm remaining hopeful, but we might be lucky to end up with a .680 to .720 catcher when all is said and done.

I was hoping he'd keep playing. That way, we'd be sure the Yanks would continue to suck. On a more serious note, I was almost certain ARod would pass Aaron for 3rd place on the career HR list. (He's 18 behind now.) Speaking of the HR list: Pujols is 2 behind 10th place McGwire, 5 behind Frank Robinson and 28 behind Sosa. He;s 31 behind 7th place Jim Thome. Griffey is 18 more away. Papi is 6 behind Jimmie Foxx at #18. He's 8 behind Mantle at #17. ARod is 3rd in career RBIs with 2084 (130 behind Ruth). He's 8th in runs scored (41 behind Mays), 6th in TB (43 behind Cobb) and .0004 ahead of Papi in career SLG% 25th and 26th place alltime.

I have no issues with those that disagree with my philosophy of the best up third. Someone once showed how the 5th hitter is most important, while someone else showed that statistically, juggling the line-up hardly matters. In general, (there are exceptions to every guideline) I like the best OPS guy up 3rd, but he must have a decent SLG. The 4th hitter should have a good SLG (maybe better than 3, but certaonly not a better OBP and SLG). The highest OBP guys after the 3rd slot hitter is placed should, of course, go 1-2. If I followed this philosophy to the letter, Papi would go 3rd and Betts 4th with Bogey/Pedey going 1-2, but then there's JBJ who could be viewed as close to our best over-all hitter as of the last 365 days, if you value OBP more than SLG. He's left out of the top 5. Hitting him 5th would make that other guy happy, I guess. Last 365 days OBP SLG 395 617 Ortiz 350 546 Betts 370 524 JBJ 374 468 Bogey 370 444 Pedey 351 445 Ramirez 327 467 Shaw 326 387 Holt If you go Pedey, Bogey, Betts, Papi, JBJ, you'll really get the lefty-righty alternating crowd all upset. I'd be fine with that line-up though. I might flip Papi?Betts vs RHPs.

He was part of the August trade Cleveland made for Jimenez back in 2011. However, he was in the minors when traded, but did play for Colorado in 2011.

Well, it wasn't long ago the Yanks were big spenders on FAs. Even less than 3 years ago, they signed 4 out of the 13 qualifying offer FAs available that year. Since Drew and Morales signed for below QO price, I actually counted it as 4 out of 11. Ellsbury $153M/7, McCann $85M/5, Beltran ($45M/3), Kuroda $16M/1 (others were Cano, Choo, Cruz, Drew, Grandy, Jimenez, Morales, Napoli, Santana) Don't be shocked, if they sign 2 out of the big 3.

I know the numbers show the 5th batter is most important, but I still like my best overall (BBP + SLG) up 3rd. He can drive in runs or get on base for the 4/5 hitters.

Not that Colorado or Oakland have big spotlights either, but Pomeranz has had experience moving around. Boston is his 4th team while in the Bigs after starting in the minors with a 5th team (CLE).

He has had a couple of bad starts but I think that his future value is yet to be determined. While still a tiny sample size, I wouldn't call his last start a good one. He had 6 BBs and 4 hits allowed in 6 IP. Even though only 2 runs were allowed, I'd say it was a "bad start" giving him 3 of 4 starts as "bad" not 2. His one "good start" was in our 4-2 loss to Detroit where he went 6 giving up 2 ERs but only 4 hits and 2BBs.

It certainly is not an easy job. While Pomeranz did have 2016 NL num bers tha compared favorably to other 1/2 slot starters, I never meant to imply I viewed him as a 1/2 slot starter. I mentioned the small sample size and my doubts about how he would perform in the AL. I was against the trade, but hoped we had found a solid 3/4 SP'er at a low cost that may have freed up enough budget space next year to sign Encarnacion and 2 solid RP'ers. The trade of Espi, however, damaged our chances at putting together a large enough package to acquire a reliabel ace type SP'er this winter, or that our farm would have to be nearly totally decimated to acquire one after already losing so much by getting Pom & Kimbrell.