moonslav59
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Everything posted by moonslav59
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Too much for a $17M 1Bman under team control for 2 years. Just sign Santana for about the same money and keep the prospects.
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How's this? (LOL) Trade: JBJ (3 arbs w $6M est for this year), Sam Travis, Heath Hembree & Jalen Beeks For: Danny Duffy ($13M luxury tax for 4 more years) Trade: Michael Chavis & Cole Brannen For: Giancarlo Stanton ($25M luxury tax) & all of his contract Sign: Carlos Santana $15M x 4 years The major problem: adding $47M to the budget and bringing us over the second penalty phase by about $7-8M. Maybe we can sign Morrison or the like to play 1B instead of Santana and stay just varely under the second level.
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,,and they got a pretty nice return for the last of their bonus money.
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Agreed, but the part about some GMs confirning it adds some weight to the "opinion".
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How condescending! LOL! We both love to win every year. That's a fact. Hope we're both still around in 3-4 years, and you can take me to the wood shed.
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Yes, for 2-3 more team-controlled years.
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"The Red Sox simply are running out of top prospects to trade. That's not just hyperbole. That's a fact. Some phone calls to general managers around the majors confirm that. "
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$2M plus a likely luxury tax is probably not worth it.
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Maybe because they have many more years of team control, but that's not close to getting a deal like this done. They might take ERod and Travis.
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$14.6M a year luxury tax hit is not bad, I'd consider it, in that scenario.
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Well, I figured Santana and Cobb were better and higher paid than Naps & Demps, so I lowered Vic to Nunez and a position of need.
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Dalbec and Travis? Probably not, but it took other better prospects included to get Sale, Kimbrel and Thornburg.
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I think we can push the cliff back to 2021 as well, assuming we're set up to spend big in 2020. I guess we could spend large for consecutive years, but that would take a philosophy change by Henry that I'm guessing will not occur. Paying big taxes one year is one thing, but paying even bigger taxes (plus maybe other penalties) for the second or third year is asking for a major commitment.
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Yes, sadly that is true. Since he has an option, I think we should keep him on the 40 man until we know more about Pedey. If we sign a FA, I'd DFA Owens. If we sign a second FA, I might consider Holt.
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Could we get the next Pom for Groome? Is he higher valued than Espi? Resigning Sale will cost $30+M.
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Dalbec and Travis seemed to regress this year. None of these guys compare to the value Margot, Moncada, Kopech, Dubon, Basabe and others had for those trades DD made. Sure, some may rise like Betts did, but that is rare. I'm talking the odds of things happening not wishful thinking. I find it strange I was bashed for wishful thinking on Espinoza and margot, but now I'm being asked to be optimistic about Groome and ockimey.
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That's how I feel now, too, but I think Holt deserves a look in ST'ing to see if he looks to be near his allstar season level. Plus, he has an option, so we can keep him as depth. The last 2 roster spots may come down to Marrero (0 options), Swihart (0 options) and Lin (2 options) as Holt starts in AAA.
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Well, we did win in 2013 without two bash brothers. We could try to recreate 2013 by signing Santana (Napoli), Cobb (Dempster) and Nunez (Vic).
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As you pointed out, a strong positional player farm can be used to trade for top pitching like Sale, Kimbrel and Pomeranz, but where are those prospects now in our system that can net us close to those returns, when we need more strong pitching?
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Where's the "supporting" evidence we can do this? To replace a top starter and closer and a strong number two will cost a fortune on the FA market, and we're probably not getting the next Chris Sale for Quiroz, Groome and Ockimey. Even if Bogey I JBJ cost $15M each, we're looking at... $31M Price $25M Betts $15M Bogey $15M JBJ ___ Ace ___ Closer ___ #2-3 starter This alone will look to be close to $140-150M, unless we get lucky on a trade or our system finally develops a SP'er (like Groome) to be a solid #2-3 type. We had little faith in Kopech and Espinoza, why should we not have faith in Groome, Houck or Beeks?
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I'm not doubting that, and signing Price went a long way to fixing that problem as well. My point is, the farm will not be as strong as when DD took over, so trading for guys like Sale and Pom isn't going to happen with scraps on the farm.
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I've always said I felt we probably could remain competitive for 2020, if we set up the tax so we can go over by $39M that year. I think Kimmi says it starts in 2020. To me, the "cliff" means we will not be favorites to make the playoffs for a couple years or so. It does not mean last place for 2-3 years in a row.
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Yes, you are right. Pom & Kimbrel after 2018 (along with Kelly) Sale & Porcello after 2019 (along with Bogey & Thornburg) My bad.
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I agree, but until we know how Pedey's return is looking, we may want to keep as much depth at 2B as possible.
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I'm not so sure Chavis does either.
