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HRam and his agent will hit the roof, if they try to pull a "phantom DL" on him. He will not be DFA's either. He has value, even if we trade him and pay $15M of his $22M contract. That $7M can buy a RP'er. Apparently, the surgery went well, and he's supposed to be able to play 1B next year. We should know more by ST'ing, but my guess is, HRam is the FT DH on opening day. If we sign JD, we will trade JBJ or create some kind of modified platoon like this.... Moreland plays 1B vs all RHPs. He rides the bench when a lefty starts. HRam plays 1B vs all LHPs. He DHs vs some RHPs and ends up with just under the PAs needed to vest. JD plays DH vs most RHPs and LF vs some RHPs and all LHPs. Beni plays CF when JD is in LF. Benis sist vs half the LHPs. JBJ sits vs half the LHPs and some RHPs. Betts gets rested vs RHPs only. It's not ideal having JBJ on the bench so much, but if any one of our OF'ers or 1B/DH get hurt, he's back to FT. IMO, we'll trade him for a SP'er.

Actually, 2016 was worse than 2018 for HRam.

Well, he's on the DL. I put him 8th, because that's where Marco will hit. My guess is that if Pedey returns to form, he'll move up to the 1 or 2 slot. If not, he may bat 6th or 7th. A lot depends on how the rest of our batters are doing when he returns.

Why? They had already saved the $30M. They also could have made GS sweat it out until he expanded the teams interested.

From what I've heard JD is great in the clubhouse.

If Mitchy bats clean-up, we'll know JF is the puppet master.

Highest payroll. Worst farm among contenders. Hmmm....

Updated with the Moreland signing.... The 40 man Roster (luxury tax 2018 cost): [37 non-free agents on roster] $31.0M Price $22.0M HRam $20.6M Porcello ($19M Sandoval- not on roster/ counts against luxury tax budget) $13.8M Pedroia $12.0M Kimbrel ($11.7M Castillo- not on 40 man roster/does not count on luxury budget) $11.5M Sale (option) $6.5M Moreland Total Under Contract: ~$137.5M Arbs --from MLBTR estimates: (year of arb) ~$9.1M Pomeranz (3 of 3) ~$8.2M Betts (1 of 3) ~$7.6M Bogey (2 of 3) ~$5.9M Bradley (2 of 4) ~$3.6M Kelly (3 of 3) ~$2.7M ERod (1 of 4) ~$2.1M Thornburg (2 of 3) ~$2.1M Leon (2 of 4) ~$2.1M Smith (1 of 3) ~$2.0M Holt (2 of 3) ~$1.5M Vaz (1 of 3) ~$1.2M Wright (1 of 3) ~$0.9M Workman (2 of 3) ~$0.6M Swihart (1 of 4) $50.6M in arbs Pre-arbs: Beni, Devers, Barnes, Hembree, Scott, Hernandez, Maddox, Travis, Lin, Marrero, Taylor, Velazquez, Johnson, Elias, Brentz, Jerez, Beeks, Shepherd & Buttrey Total Pre-Arb Costs: $5M Total Estimated Cost (No Other Free Agent Signings Counted): $192.5M +13M Player benefits= ~$206M Luxury Tax Budget Limit: $207M That leaves us slightly over $30M to spend and stay under the second penalty limit. It could be more if we trade some salary.

No, we had about $37-38M to spend to stay under the second tier. That's counting all arb estimates, the player benefit cost and the scubs that fill out the roster.

Actually, what was said was they had to cut $30M. They cut that with Ozuna, Gordon and Vargas. He could have told GS, we might keep you, since we cut what we needed to cut. look at Yelich and their catcher begging to be traded now. That could have been GS, too had jeter had half a brain and 1/4 guts.

No. The buy out is figured in, because that is all that is guaranteed. The option year is the AVV minus the buyout that was counted previously, so actually Sale's luxury cost would be ... $12.5M - $1M buyout- $11.5 in 2018 and $12.5 in 2019 ($13.5M -$1M). Maybe the $1M buyout for 2019 counts on 2018.

His $6M value is worth more keeping. It's what we'd get for JBJ that would be the reason to trade him.

You are either grossly undervaluing JBJ or grossly overvaluing Corbin. JBJ has 3 arb years left. Corbin has one. Corbin does not impress me at all. The YANKS can have him. 2016-2017 19-26 4.53 4.04 xFIP is okay 101 ERA- is meh 1.48 WHIP is horrible 3.31 BB/9 8.05 K/9 1.30 HR/9 I'm thinking more like JBJ & Hembree for 3 arb years of Danny Salazar.

Not true. The leverage was to tell GS he's staying with a losing team for 3 more years before his opt-out. He'd come begging for a trade to any place competitive or more commercially lucrative to his "brand".

Sale will be on an option year, so the AVV of $8.2M is not correct. It's $12.5m this year and $13.5M next year.

We will probably trade JBJ, if we sign Martinez. That would free up enough for Nunez or a decent 5th starter. or, we could just keep a buffer for the deadline. $7M + $6M projected JBJ arb= $13M

JD replacing the 2017 HRam would be better than replacing the 2017 JBJ. Who would you project has a better overall 2018? HRam or JBJ. I'd pick JBJ by a landslide. JBJ should get a very good pitcher, and if we include Travis and maybe Beeks, we could do very well.

If you call Brentz, Leon, Marco Hernandez, Marrero and Swihart as a full boat, I'm shocked. Our offense sucked last year. We are replacing Young with Brentz. Period. Yes, we'll have Devers and Marco for a full season, but no Pedey for at least a half season and no Nunez. Standing pat on offense should not have been an option.

Nunez up 3rd? Based on what? 2 months with the Sox this year?

I can't think of any Sox player mentioned more than JBJ as the object or other GM's desires. He is wanted by many GMs. They highly value CF defense, decent power and cost control for 3 more seasons.

He got crap for GS. What's worse than crap? I've been saying for weeks and weeks that Stanton was not going to bring back a huge haul. Just about everyone was expecting much more than what Jeter got. Even the SFG offer was reportedly much better. I stand by my position. The odds were much greater he could have gotten more by expanding the list of suitors and not letting Gs run the show. GS would have begged to be traded once Gordon and Ozuna were traded away. He'd have expanded his list to 16 teams. I have no doubt. He wanted out of Miami and that was more important than essentially choosing 2 teams only.

I wondered the same last year. Many felt we jumped the gun and lost out on EE due to the the haste.

We're over the luxury limit already, and we're not done spending. Next year the tax goes up a hefty notch.

$13M as insurance?

Not totally, and there's a less than 50% chance but significant nonetheless he does as good or better than 2016.