moonslav59

Well put, and probably taking the average WAR between the two is most accurate most of the time.

I was not for signing EE. I'm just saying we could have, if we wanted to do so.

No, but we chose to go to arb with him rather than trade or DFA him. There were several options fo4r reducing salary to accommodate EE. One, we could have trade HRam after he had a pretty decent season. We would not have saved $22M, but we might have saved $10M. Here's more.... (mix & match) $6-10M HRam $6.5M Young $5.5M Moreland $2M Abad $2M Holt

Yes, my biggest beef was Holt even starting, but then putting him 1st or second was what blew my gasket.

Holt might be in AAA when Pedey comes up, as we might keep the out-of-options Marrero and Swihart to start the year. Depending on how Holt, marrero and Swihart are doing once Pedey returns, any one of them could be traded or DFA'd. I'm wondering if Pedey and marco start on the 60 day DL. (Can you begin a 60 day DL in spring training, so it only goes 45 days into the season?)

I'm sure Eck has been told this, yet he persists.

We could have signed him and stayed under the limit had we traded Young and not signed Moreland and Holt.

This board is all about giving opinions.

fangraphs has.... 5.4 Sale 4.9 Severino 3.6 Price 3.6 Tanaka 3.3 S Gray 2.5 Pomernaz 2.5 Porcello 2.1 Montgomery 0.9 ERod/0.7 Wright 1.6 CC Sabathia Pen NYY 2.2 Chapman 1.6 Robertson 1.2 Betances 1.1 Kahnle 0.9 C Green 0.2 Warren 0.1 Shreve & Gallegos BOS 2.3 Kimbrel 0.8 Smith 0.7 Kelly 0.2 Barnes 0.1 Thornburg & Workman C 3.4 Sanchez, 0.2 Romine, 0.1 Higashioka 1.4 Vazques & 0.6 Leon 1B 1.9 Byrd & 0.1 Austin 0.7 Moreland & 0.6 HRam DH 2.8 JD Martinez & 0.1 HRam 1.5 Stanton, 0.6 Judge, 0.3 Gardner & 0.1 Sanchez 2B 2.3 Pedroia & 0.6 Nunez 0.5 Torres, 0.3 Wade, 0.1 Torreyes & Drury 3B 2.6 Devers, 0.3 Nunez 0.8 Drury, 0.6 Andujar SS 3.4 Bogey & 0.2 Nunez 2.6 Gregorius, 0.1 Torreyes & Wade LF 3.4 Stanton & 1.3 Gardner 2.5 Beni, 0.6 JDM, 0.2 Nunez CF 3.2 JBJ & 0.4 Beni 2.4 Hicks, 0.3 Ellsbury RF 5.6 Betts & 0.1 Nunez 3.8 Judge, 1.5 Stanton, 0.1 Frazier Totals 6.4 Stanton 5.6 Betts 4.4 Judge 3.5 Sanchez 3.4 JDM 3.4 Bogey 3.2 JBJ 2.9 Beni 2.6 Devers 2.6 Didi 2.4 Hicks 2.3 Pedey 1.9 Bird 1.7 Gardner 1.4 Vaz 1.3 Nunez 1.0 Drury 0.7 Moreland 0.7 HRam 0.6 Leon 0.6 Andujar 0.5 Torres & Wade 0.4 Ellsbury 0.2 Torreyes & Romine 0.1 Frazier & Austin

A couple of stories from MLBTR... Veteran Red Sox star Dustin Pedroia had a bit more done to his knee than had previous been known, Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe reports on Twitter. In addition to cartilage restoration work, Pedroia underwent a microfracture procedure to his tibia. Regardless, it seems that the hard-nosed veteran is progressing well given that he has now advanced to taking batting practice. Meanwhile, fellow infielder Marco Hernandez is still six weeks away from resuming baseball activities, Rob Bradford of WEEI.com tweets. Hernandez underwent shoulder surgery last May and only just had screws removed, but at least he now seems to be in sight of returning to the field. In other Red Sox coverage, Bradford discusses new signee J.D. Martinez’s unique relationship with his personal hitting coach. As it turns out, new Boston hitting coach Tim Hyers is well acquainted with Martinez’s guru Robert Van Scoyoc, who’ll be allowed to continue consulting with Martinez even though he has been hired by the Diamondbacks. It’s a deep and interesting look at how Martinez’s unique approach will fit with the organization.

I'm dying to see how little Moose gets.

If Carson Smith comes back strong, we may not need Thornburg. If both do very well, watch out Yanks!

Same thing happened last year with EE and others. Two years now. Will he hold off next year?

I get the reasons why, but watching these good hitter sign for peanuts is making me dislike the HRam (and Pablo) signing more and more.

I did not know this. Do you have the same info on our other starters?

We could have a better hitter for $3-5M. We couldn't say that 3 years ago. That's what changed.

All these bargain deals makes the HRam signing look even worse.

Okay. Good point.

Well said.

Very encouraging. I remember thinking AGon would hit 50.

ERod will not replace Porcello's IP. He will replace Wright/Johnson/Velazquez... Porcello has the potential to be a solid #2 type starter or a #5 starter, but he likely will be like a #4 or maybe a 3.

He could be a big difference maker.

Wow, half the money and years as Moreland.

Moreland was a bad signing and a waste of $6.5M a year x 2. We could have signed a pitcher and had more room for Swihart, Nunez and others. (Or, we could have signed Morrison.)

Is this much different from other Sox pitchers not named Sale.