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We did get some good "on paper" players back, but the heart and soul of the team was ripped out and stomped on. It made it hard being a Sox fan. Some notable and heart-breaking trades and let-go's from way back when... 1971: Traded George Scott, Lonborg, Billy C & Ken Brett for Tommy Harper, Marty Pattin and Lew Krausse. This was a bad trade, as Scott went on to have many good to great years with the Brewers, but I was a big Brewer fan at the time. Tommy Harper was my favorite player, and I switched to being a Sox fan after the trade. We had moved from Milwaukee to Portland. ME that summer of 1071. (Later, in 1976, we traded Cecil Cooper for Scott and Carbo.) We traded Carbo for Danny Darwin & Tom Murphy- Darwin was good. 1972: Sparky Lyle for Danny Cater (horrible deal) 1973: Reggie Smith & Ken Tatum for Rick Wise. 1973: Ben Oglivie for Dick McAuliffe 1978: Sold Jim Willoughby to the Cards. 1978: Luis Tiant was granted free agency & signed with the Yanks. 1978: Traded Bill Lee for Stan Papi 1980: Traded Burleson & Hobson for Carney Lansford, Rick Miller & Mark Clear. 1981: Failed to offer a contract in time for Carlton Fisk, thereby losing him to free agency. (We could have at least signed and traded him.) 1981: Traded Fred Lynn and Steve Renko for Frank Tanana & Joe Rudi. 1982: Traded Carney Lansford for Tony Armas

Want some Soup Campbell for an appetizer?

Bill Lee not retiring as a Sox was almost the final straw. The way we lost Fisk was 100 times worse than the Lester initial contract offer fiasco. It really all started with the dumb Cecil Cooper trade.

A BB and a SAC might be the best we can hope for.

I think he broke his back crashing into the CF wall (before they put up the padding). He did get hurt a lot, but he gets a free pass from me, because he played the game all out to win. Loved the kid. Broke my heart when they traded him and Burleson.

Love this stuff! I remember big Bob Veale.

2 is crooked, but was thinking 7 or 8.

Thanks for the info. I became a Sox fan in the early 70's. I had heard of Radatz, but I never saw him play.

We need a mega crooked number this inning!

We should know a lot more by the deadline. I, too, don't think anything will happen before then, unless JBJ is still at 1.47 by mid or the end of June. If JBJ never snaps out of it, we may not even offer him an arb, especially if we are looking to reset the tax for 2020.

Soup Campbell once went 17-5 in relief. Dick Radazt went 16-9 in relief for the Sox in 1964.

He did have an .844 OPS for a 5 year stretch with the Angels and O's, but injuries and a few sub .700 years really hurt.

Last year, he was pretty consistent from mid May through October's playoffs. I'm still holding out hope, but every time he seems to get a couple walks or a hit, I think, "maybe this is it," but he goes right back to futility. You keep saying, "consider a change," but what options do we have? Our budget is tight. We don't have many prospects we can spare in trade, and CF'er who can hit and field are not easy to acquire. Our only real in-house option might have been Holt or Castillo, but both are really unavailable for various reasons. I don't want JD getting hurt by playing OF full time, either, and putting JD in the OF so Pearce can DH or Nunez can play 2B (Chavis DH) seems just as bad, if not worse.

Why not stretch Walden into a starter? It's not like he's never done it. He started 15 games in 2017 and 5 last year.

Maybe someone should start a thread or two on this subject!

Just caught up live... Moreland with his 10th HR! They all seem to be with men on, too. Good to see JD with a blast. Velazquez is losing my confidence. JBJ can't even foul off a pitch. We may need more runs than 6 to win this one. .

I've googled to look for an article about him, but I can't find it. I'm not saying he was or is hurt, but there was a lot of talk about it down here last year. Nobody wanted him back. (We all know how talk radio can get.)

I live in Sugar Land, Texas, which is a suburb Southwest of Houston, and there was a lot of speculation that something was physically wrong with Keuchel. He just never looked the same after his Cy Young year. One could say the same about Porcello, I guess, but it makes me wonder if teams know something we don't about him.

I certainly have no complaints about what Chavis has done so far, he's been the top dog, since joining the team. He's also hit some massive HRs--I think our 3 longest this year. It's the sustainability I am wondering about. I'm not projecting his decline or demise. I like his chances at putting together a very nice full season. I'm just not "entirely sold" on the thought that he will go on to have a great season. Hi K prospects seem to flame out more often than others, especially as you point out, the second or thrid time through the league. Teams will adjust. We'll see ho he counter-adjusts. I'm very hopeful, but I have my doubts.

The system used to pay for "yesterday," and it must be a bummer to be a player like him at this very moment in the evolution of big contract negotiations.

FIP and xFIP have their place, but I've never been a big fan of thinking it's a really good stat.

I'm not entirely sold on Chavis just yet. It's way too early to think he's the real deal, and anytime you have a guy that Ks as much as he does, there's always more doubt. I'm riding on the wagon, though, as any Sox fan must be. It will likely come down to his ability to adjust to the adjustments made by opposing teams.

Chavis has 50 HRs over his last 737 ABs (833 PAs) dating back to the start of 2017.

Yes, that is still more than anyone else.

What's worse is that he has a .783 OPS with SFG this year.