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  1. moonslav59
    It's not a winning strategy to sign 4-5 slot starters. We can't afford Porcello. I'd love to have him back, but we might not even be able to offer $3-4M, unless we deal away more than just JBJ.
  2. moonslav59
    Only Yankees can do that. Don't you know?
  3. moonslav59
    You crack me up.
  4. moonslav59
    Yes, nobody knows, but the odds are he'll start declining sooner rather than later.
  5. moonslav59
    So, Cole at $245M/7 at age 29. Price at $217M/7 at age 30. Let's compare the two at their time of signing: Price: coming off a league leading ERA of 2.45 (164 ERA+) in 220 IP. 2yrs prior: 33-17 2.88 (135 ERA+) in 469 IP (most in MLB) 1.08 WHIP 3 yrs prior: 43-25 3.01 (129 ERA+) in 655 IP and 1.08 WHIP 4 yrs: 63-30 2.90 (133) in 866 IP (1.09) 5 yrs: 75-43 3.02 (127) in 1091 IP (1.10) 6 yrs: 94-49 2.97 (130) in 1299 IP (1.11) Cole: coming off a league leading ERA 2.50 (185 ERA+) in 212 IP (0.90 WHIP) 2 yrs: 35-10 2.68 (164) in 413 IP (0.96) 3 yrs: 47-22 3.20 (136) in 616 IP (1.06) 4 yrs: 54-32 3.31 (130) in 732 iP (1.12) 5 yrs: 73-40 3.15 (134) in 940 IP (1.11) 6 yrs: 84-45 3.22 (129) in 1078 IP (1.13) Cole's got a big lead over Price in the most recent 2 year numbers, except IP, but the 4 prior years goes to Price: Prior 3-6 years combined: Price: 61-32 3.02 (127) in 831 IP (1.13) Cole: 49-35 3.55 (112) in 665 IP (1.23)
  6. moonslav59
    If it's near the $11M/1 offer MLBTR suggested, it's too much. $18M/2 is too much, as well.
  7. moonslav59
    Yes, the 3 year sample works better for you, but why not 2 or 4 or 5 years? We both cherry-picked, but teh fact is Price has proven he has value- certainly not anything near $32M value, but he has enough value that SD would want him, if the money part was balanced out. bWAR in reverse 2019>2018...: Price: 1.8, 4.4, 1.6, 3.0, 2.6, 3.6 Paxton: 2.2, 2.9, 3.6, 1.1, 0.7, 1.3 Last 3 years: Price 7.8 Paxton 8.7 4 rs Price 10.8 Paxton 9.8
  8. moonslav59
    My point was about value. Paxton, who you gushed over has done about the same as Price, who you act like Price is valueless. You claim he has to do something positive to be tradable. He's been Paxton for 2 years. I'm fully aware of the contract disparity, but I also know how much Myers is owed. He's owed $61M over the next 3 years. That's 2/3 of what Price makes and all that SD cares about- that and gaining a 2-3 WAR SP'er for about $10M a year. From our perspective, the luxury tax savings would be way more than $10-11M a year x 3. Myers's luxury tax hit is just $13.8M/yr. That means nothing to SD but a hell of a lot to us. We'd save over $17M a year on the lux tax. It's not unreasonable to think SD would pay Price $36M/3 (the difference between him and Myers) and we'd take Myers to fill our 1B hole while saving $17M x 3 years on the tax budget. It's a match made in heaven. (BTW, I also suggested we could kick in a little cash and still make out.)
  9. moonslav59
    Funny how you expect your farm to stay good as you win and spend, but you talk about how it's nearly impossible for us to do so.
  10. moonslav59
    It's us who needs to do the walking. He's past 30, now, and we can't afford $10M+ for our 5th starter. Even if we dump Price or Eovaldi, we should spend the money more wisely and spread it out more. We have too many holes to fill to spend that much on anyone.
  11. moonslav59
    It's not like we don't see the downside of Price. He's been showing something positive, too. 2017 was the only year, he gave us basically nothing He's pitched 283 innings in the past 2 years at a 6.2 bWAR and 4.7 fWAR. While the IP'd are not great, they still have provided value, and I'm not even counting the 2018 playoff performances. (He's over 307 IP counting the playoffs.) Your guy, James Paxton has about 310 IP the last 2 years combined at a 5.1 bWAR and 7.2 fWAR, and had a worse IP record, other than 2017, than Price beforehand. (Even 2017, Price gave us a 1.5 or 1.6 WAR.) Taking on Myers's contract would offset enough of Price's deal to make it worth it for SD, despite what you think. Myers gives them very little. He's avergaed a 1.0 WAR the last 3 years. This type of deal makes sense to both sides.
  12. moonslav59
    It will be hard to keep your farm this good. It's already started declining as players are called up. Winning brings worse draft picks. Spending large limits IFA signings. Yes, it helps to have some good prospects already in the system to infuse some low cost help in the next 2-4 years, but the well will eventually run dry, and my guess is, when it looks like you have a great chance at winning a ring, you'll make a couple trades of prospects for that one or tow pieces you feel you need to put you over the top. It's a pattern that just keeps repeating itself, despite the cliffs they cause.
  13. moonslav59
    So, let's hope the Cole signing starts the whole process over again.
  14. moonslav59
    Just say "NO!"
  15. moonslav59
    I can't see any scenario where bringing Porcello back makes any sense.
  16. moonslav59
    That's a movement that should be avoided. Movement for the sake of movement is not a good thing.
  17. moonslav59
    It's all based on Jacko's idea that all Sox pitchers are doomed to a zero or below WAR in 2020. If Price was a Yankee, he would not want to trade Price for Myers.
  18. moonslav59
    MLBTR... Red Sox ace Chris Sale finished the 2019 season on the injured list with inflammation in his throwing elbow. However, there’s “no doubt” he’ll be ready for spring training, he told reporters (including Adam Fisher of the Fort Myers News-Press). Sale was cleared to begin throwing last week, and he offered a few details on his offseason program yesterday. Currently, Sale is throwing three times a week, he said, and he plans to up his workload soon before moving to long-toss and, eventually, mound work. Sale’s peripherals were dominant again last season, but his 147.1 innings of 4.40 ERA ball no doubt made for some disappointing results. The Sox will be hoping for more typical bottom line numbers from the star southpaw in 2020.
  19. moonslav59
    Maybe it belongs on the "Bloom Move Your Ass" thread.
  20. moonslav59
    Brewers sign Keon Broxton to a minor league deal. I know there are more like him out there, but a minor league deal seems like one got away.
  21. moonslav59
    We saw it in 2012 and won a ring the next season.
  22. moonslav59
    That's what I was getting at, and with a 26 man roster, it's a safe bet we stay with an extra pitcher all year long. That makes the "opener idea" more I could be wrong, but I think last year was the first time we kept 13 pitchers on the 25 man roster every game or nearly every game. Anybody know, if this is true?
  23. moonslav59
    Taking back Myers is "eating an exorbitant amount of money." We could even pay more towards it or add someone like Chavis or Walden. I think you are right on the Kopech deal, but you may be selling Chavis & Duran short. The Choo idea was to help balance the money Texas would be taking on with Eovaldi or Price with the idea that we'd trade Martinez, so he could DH. Yes, we likely don't get Kopech for JD, but we could get something and now be way under the tax line. This would allow Bloom to do his magic finding under-the-radar gems. Right now, he has no wiggle room to sign even the lowest paid free agents or to trade for anyone making even $1M over min wage.
  24. moonslav59
    Like JBJ for a cheap SP'er. Like maybe Chavis for one. Maybe JBJ & Chavis for a better one. We still need a 1Bman, too and 2B is not looking too good either. Trading JBJ opens a hole in an already short depth OF. If trading JBJ gets us just slightly under the lux tax, and our goal is to stay under, Bloom is going to have to work wonders to fill all these holes without upping the spending or trading away from our already weak farm. That's one reason I think we trade Price or Eovaldi. We'd create budget space to help us fill the 4-5 major holes we have right now: 5th SP'er (plus 4th if we trade Eovladi or Price)- in house options are just not there. CF - I doubt Duran is really ML caliber. 1B - Dalbec/Chavis/Travis could work out. 2B- Chavis/Lin/Chatham/Marco could be adequate, at best. RP- We may just go with what we have- again. C- Hard to imagine we stay in house here.
  25. moonslav59
    Cole will certainly make you an instant top contender. I'm just hoping for the biggest and longest deal in history, so you guys will be firmly in the boat we were in 4 years ago with a certain cliff on the horizon after this window closes. I do not think the Sox have a better chance at winning a ring in the next 2-3 years, assuming you guys sign an ace, but I would not bet against us in the next decade.
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