moonslav59

Strange prediction. Jimenez has more upside than any other OF prospect, including maybe Duran. His defense has been shaky, but so was Duran's. Plus, we don't know how much Bloom and other GMs value Jimenez or any of our prospects.

I know this is the 2021 thread, but I don't want to further jinx the season by starting the 2022 thread early. Here is a look at next year's projected 26 (Red) and 40 (Blue) man roster. Free Agents: ERod Ottavino Marwin Robles Santana Projected Options not given: Richards ($10M/$1.5 Mb/o) Perez ($6M/ $500K b/0) Andriese ($3.5M/ $250K b/o) Projected opt out: Schwarber ($11.5M) Projected Options given: Vaz ($7M) Projected no opt out: JD ($19.4M) 2022 (4 projected FA signings- #2 SP, #2 RP, 1B, Utility IF'er): (5) Rule 5 protected SP: Sale, FA, Eovaldi, Pivetta, Whitlock, Seabold, Groome, Mata, Bello (5), Winckowski (5) RP: Barnes, FA, Houck, Taylor, DHern, Sawamura, Brasier, Valdez Rios, Bazardo C: Vazquez, Plawecki, Wong, Ro. Hernandez (bubble?) 1B: FA, Dalbec, Cordero 2B: Arroyo Downs (5) 3B: Devers SS: Bogey, FA LF: Verdugo CF: Kike, Duran. Jimenez (5) RF: Renfroe DH: JD Any 3 from... 5th FA or 6th FA Current 40 Man Bubble (all have options remaining): A Davis, Rosario, Potts, Arauz Possible Rule 5 protected: Kutter Crawford, Victor Santos, Thaddeus Ward Cole Brannen, Cole Cottam, Durbin Feltman, Frank German, Devlin Granberg. Kaleb Ort, Tyreque Reed, John Schreiber

Aldo was not a rule 5 player, so we did not gain a 2022 roster spot by trading him. We did by trading Chavis, but he may have been DFA'd anyway.

Agreed. I do think the throw s*** against the wall and see what sticks philosophy fails more than it succeeds. You might ask, how can it fail anymore than what Dalbec is doing? Well, look at Santana, Chavis, Cordero, Duran, Arauz... 2021 OPS .655 Dalbec .625 Arauz .595 Duran .566 Marwin .544 Santana .549 Chavis .517 Cordero (Yes, 3 splat against the wallers are doing even worse than Marwin!)

They went 2-9 from May 3 to May 14. It's not "as bad," but still pretty bad.

Why assume the team you see now will continue as is going forward? (I'm not assuming they will or won't.) It didn't work that way, 2-3 weeks ago.

Maybe we find the shoe in 2023 or 2024, when we aren't hampered by mega 2 or 3 tier taxes. Maybe "the nail" is not in the 2021 coffin, just yet.

We got the great Austin Davis for Chavis. Keep your future DFA'd players straight!

Looks that way, now, but I think Bloom was not able to foresee a new injury, and maybe he values the edge he might have on extending Schwarber beyond 2021. It is a questionable deal.

Sounds like he did good holding off on those 2. My guess is, he has several similar offers where a fall back prospect could not be agreed upon.

So, 1 down, you give up? On a team with so many come from behind wins, you don't see it in them to comeback in the standings, especially when you look at our last 14 games of the season? 6 v BAL 3 v WSH 3 v NYY 2 v NYM

That seems to have been the plan. If it doesn't work, it won't mean we had no plan. We also have plans for 2022 and beyond. Sometimes, they conflict with the 2021 plans, and tough choices have to be made. Bloom made some tough choices and will live with those choices, as we will, too.

Management is not sitting and not caring. They were not running to make panic moves. You think they expected to go 2-13 with the same team that had the best record in MLB? Did you expect this?

I think Kike needs to play everyday, except for normal rest. If he starts slumping, maybe play him 8 or 9 games out of every 10. He could play CF vs all LHPs and some RHPs, as Duran starts maybe 3-4 games out of 10 in CF. When Duran plays CF, Kike plays 2B (Arroyo sits a few games out of 10) or rarely at 1B, once Schwarber has shown he can play 1B FT. To get Duran more time, we could sit Verdugo vs some lefties and play Duran, then, or sit Renfroe a little more than normal rest. Something like this: C: Vaz 6-7 out of 10/ Plawecki 3-4 out of 10 1B: Schwarber 9 out of 10/ Plawecki or Dalbec 1 out of 10 (Kike?) 2B: Arroyo 7-8 out of 10/ Kike 2-3 out of 10 3B: Devers 10-10 SS: Bogey 10-10 (try to get him rest for his wrist, once Arroyo returns) LF: Verdugo 8-10/ see RF 0-1 (Duran/Schwarber 0-1 w Plawecki at 1B) CF: Kike 6-7/ Duran 3-4 RF: Renfroe 9-10 (Verdugo 0-1) DH: JD 10-10 (Schwarber w Plawecki at 1B) Total Starts Only: 10-10: Devers, Bogey, JD, Kike 9-10: Renfroe, Verdugo, Schwarber 7-9: Arroyo 6-7: Vaz 4-6: Plawecki, Duran 0-1: Dalbec, Marwin, Cordero

Next to never. He played 2 games at 1B for Wareham in 2013.

Well said. Maybe we just need a big spark to ignite a big flame.

He gave us a couple decent plus seasons.

Apparently, he looked into a lot of player's availability and the return cost was too high. I trust he tried hard to get a pitcher and 1Bman. If people think he didn't try, I think you are wrong. If people think he should have given up some decent prospects, I'd probably disagree, but without names, it's hard to know. I trust Bloom knows the values of prospects and the value of 2 month rentals and longer term players.

If we need Munoz to get us over the hump, we might as well tank for a better draft pick. That being said, I'd try it. DFA Santana.

Cron might not have cost much.

Big ASSumption.

The defense, which already sucks, gets even worse, this way. I would maybe do this a few days, but I would not play Duran v LHPs with hopes he starts hitting righties, soon. When Schwarber starts playing, I would not limit Kike's playing time, at all. He'd play mostly CF and some 2B, when Arroyo sits and Duran plays CF vs some righties. I might lightly platoon Renfroe and Verdugo to get Duran and Arroyo more playing time, assuming they both hit well enough.

Maybe Seabold is not ready, yet. Tonight: 5 IP 8H 4ER 1BB 6K Brasier: 1 IP 0H 0ER 1BB 0K Munoz 3-5 (2B) Meneses 2-5 (2B) Downs 0-4, Wong 0-3 Dearden hit his 15 HR w Greenville Yorke 2-4 w Salem Wu-Yelland lit up Nothing to say about the big club but bad things.

So, who sits? Are you saying JD? Do we play Arroyo at 1B, again? Do we put our best defensive CF'er (kike) or 2Bman (kike) at 1B? Do you have Renroe and Verdugo platoon, so Duran can play FT? What's your suggestion?

Sick- just sick.