moonslav59

Of course, losing 3 series in a row sucks, but we all should have known the path to winning a playoff slot was probably going to involve a rough patch or two. We need to remember that other teams have had or are going through rough patches recently, too. All AL teams have serious weaknesses. Some may make major moves at the deadline, while we may be relying only on rolling the dice with Sale. I'm sure we will hear much frustration from some posters, here, as the win now mentality takes hold. I'm glad Bloom is at the helm. I plan on being a live for a few more years and like the longer term priorities very much.

The only way I see us trading for a rental is by Bloom giving up someone he knows or is almost certain won't be part of the team's longer term plans. I'm sure he wants to keep as many options open as possible, but there will be a slight roster squeezes this winter with free agent signings and Rule 5 prospects added to the 40. Now, how good are the players he think might not make next year's team? Maybe not good enough to bring anything useful back, but who knows? Trading for someone with multiple years of control left, usually means giving up good prospects, unless it's a salary dump. Could be an interesting or very uneventful trade deadline for the Sox.

I still think we are better than the Rays and A's. It's hard to tell with the White Sox. The Astros look better on paper than any AL team, but their pen is a mess. If we finish behind the Yanks and/or Jays, then we were never as good as we became convinced we were, and nothing short of a couple major deals could change that. Is that something this team should really do? Is this the time to pull out the stops and mortgage some of our future? The way some "fans" are talking, and I use the term loosely, we'll need some major trades to turn around this season.

Then, go be a Yankmee fan.

Will you please stop? I understand being pissed at Dalbec and wanting him gone, but saying "DFA" a guy who has decent trade value is either gross and continued hyperbole that is getting tired and old or a sign of you having no idea how roster moves and changes are made. If we DFA'd every player you wanted us to, and got nothing in return, we'd suck, right now.

Good and great teams sometimes lose to bad teams. We lost to the Rangers and then turned it around. I'm confident the team is better than this. How much better and is that "better" good enough is about to become known.

I think he could have ran faster initially, so he could have slowed near the wall, but it is often hard for TV viewers to judge what Dalbec was thinking. He may have gotten a poor initial read on where the ball was going. That, too, can be blamed on him, but at least it is not an impingement on his character.

I'm a fan of speed as anyone else, but to me Ellsbury was hurt too much, and when he played, he had one great year and the rest were meh, in terms of how he compared to other Sox batters: 2008: .958 Youk .927 Drew .926 Manny .897 JBay (211 PAs) .877 Papi .869 Pedey .798 Lowell .773 Casey (218 PAs) ,751 Crisp .739 Lowrie .729 Ellsbury .685 Lugo .672 VTek 2009 .961 Youk .921 JBay .914 Drew .912 VMart (237PAs) .819 Pedey .811 Lowell .794 Papi .770 Ellsbury .703 VTek .669 N Green 2010 .975 Youk .919 Beltre .907 Lowrie (197 PAs) .899 Papi .860 Pedey .844 VMart .793 Drew .772 BHall .766 DMac .721 Scutaro .674 Lowell (244) .485 Ellsbury in 84 PAs 2011 (The Big Year) .957 AGon .953 Papi .928 Ellsbury .861 Pedey .833 Youk 2012 1.026 Papi .835 Middy (286 PAs) .812 AGon .807 C Ross .798 Shoppach .797 Pedey .785 Crawford (125) .742 Salty .742 Nava .705 Ciriaco (272) .692 Youk (165) .682 Ellsbury .663 Aviles 2013 .959 Papi .885 Carp(243) .842 Napolli .831 Nava .804 Salty .801 Vic .787 Pedey .785 Iggy (234) .781 Ellsbury .777 Drew .771 Gomes .696 Middy Signed with Yanks. I never saw why all the hooplah.

or his sense of humor.

Wasn't one injury a collision?

This could be the starters up to the trade deadline: 19 @TOR Pivetta 20 @TOR Richards (Houck?) 21 @TOR ERod 22 NYY Eovaldi 23 NYY Perez 24 NYY Pivetta 25 NYY Richards 26 TOR ERod 27 TOR Eovaldi 28 TOR Perez 29 TOR Pivetta deadline occurs right before we play 3@TBR, 3@DET & 3@TOR.

Kike had played 1B 89 innings. Arroyo looked very good at 2B and Kike in CF. I'm still not sure they shifted so many guys around.

This team is not this bad. The scary thing is, maybe we weren't as good as we looked earlier. It's time to beat the Jays and beat them badly. They look hot, but they have several weaknesses. Our rotation should line up well vs them, and they just played 2, today.

Perez has been very good for 61 pitches many times.

I was thrilled when the Yanks signed Ellsbury. Back then, I said I would not have paid him half that contract. I don’t want to ever think that way about Duran, nor do I expect to.

That’s a sweet line up!

The change was announced, perhaps made earlier.

It took Ellsbury years to be a plus defender. I’m hoping Duran does better or improves more quickly. Ellsbury’s first season was a small sample size, and it was years before he had that wild outlier season. The rest of the time, he was mostly 5th to 8th in OPS on the team. I’m not just hoping Duran does better: I think he will.

I think Dalbec will see the greatest decline in PAs since Duran’s arrival. Give it time.

Not even close to what it was in the 70s, 80’s & 90’s.

Winning it all can’t be the only thing GMs are judged by, if they run small budget teams, but no rings by Bloom with the Sox would be a failure, IMO.

True, but low budget teams have a huge disadvantage. Now that Bloom no longer has those restrictions he should be judged differently.

If he’s no good, sure!

If hoping for better than Ells.

Theo, Ben and DD might have had no Sox rings with the budgets theRays had, so I’m not sure it really matters much. Bloom knows talent and developing prospects. I’m hopeful that when he spends big he spends it well- little experience and all