moonslav59
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I knew he pitched very well vs the Sox, but I did not recall, if he actually got credited with the win or was pulled in a 1-1 score game of before 5 IP. Who gets the win is not always the most deserving.
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Having the #4 pick really helped us, on paper, so far (w the Mayer pick.)
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Well, maybe two reasons I can think of: 1. To at least give the perception we are trying to win in 2023. 2. If we sign him for 2 or more years, he will help in 2024 and beyond, too. (kinda like Story was for the here and now and beyond.
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I could have sworn they said playoffs, but maybe my ears are going the way of my eyes. I thought it sounded weird.
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Just the Sox, for the most part.
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He might need a slight arm twist to do a Sale-type deal. The other factor is when they feel the highly competitive window is open. If they think it begins in 2024, they may not trade for a pitcher with 2-3 years of control, because they sort of "waste" one year, but if it helps boost ticket sales and NESN viewership, maybe that tips the balance, otherwise, they may wait till 2024 to make a splash trade. The SP'er FA market is to risky and squishy to commit big money and long years. I may sound like broken record, but I like notin's idea on pen arms to add, try to bring Wacha back on a QO, sign Nimmo and maybe Bogey or Swanson, and see if we can reset in 2023 doing that. Extend Devers but with the contract not putting us over in 2023, so the extension begins in 2024. (Maybe we'd need to go with Swanson over Boget to reset, unless we dump salary, somehow and somewhere.
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I agree, and I have been been openly calling for a major prospects for solid pitcher trade. but nothing like the scale of DD's 2+ year trading swirl.
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I guess the Houston radio talk show hosts are as bad as Boston's. I heard it this morning, but I should have checked it our, first.
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One clue that shows building up the farm is one of our top priorities is the fact that Bloom has traded very few known prospects (Groome for Hosmer and 2 prospects) and Aldo Ramirez for Schwarber. He has also made many trades bringing prospects to the Sox, some beyond July rental sell-offs. Betts for Dugo (not a prospect) and Downs & Wong Beni for Cordero (not a prospect), Winckowski and 3 lower level prospects. Nothing for Ottavino (and his contract) & German Renfroe for JBJ (not a prospect) and Binelas & Hamilton Some notable deadline deals that brought some prospects: Workman & Hembree for Pivetta (not a prospect) & Seabold Pillar for J Wallace Moreland for Potts and JRosario Mazza & Springs for RHern Cash for AAlmonte Vazquez for EValdez & WAbreu Groome for Hosmer (not a prospect) and Ferguson & Rosier (mentioned above)
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Or Flustercuck.
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Verlander has zero playoff wins, despite 30 playoff GS'd and a 3.40 post season ERA and 1.07 WHIP.
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True, but MVP was asking so mething else. He might trade Mata & DHern for Kopech, but would he trade Houck and Bello? Houck & Mata? Bello & Mata? While many in the system were unknown or too far away to know much, DD did seem to keep many of the right ones. No doubt, having Kopech, margot, Moncada and others would make us better than the current Sale, Nate, Kimbrell and Pomeranz, but the fact is, DD did not "decimate" the farm. The farm handed to him was over-rated and weak. He did very little to improve it, except that his draftees and IFA signings have outperformed expectations, so far. Houck is about the only one to do anything at the ML level, so far, but a lot, including Casas, Bello, Mata and Walter are knocking on the door. Bloom's additions should not be expected to be making ML appearances for another year or two, but he did bring us Whitlock via Rule 5 and a bunch of near ML ready prospects via trades, some who have not shown much hope, like Wink, Seabold & Downs, but Wong has shown some glimmer of hope, and others are still rising on the farm.
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Paxton, too, but we expected 3-4 months for him. We got 6+. Even some of their replacements went on brief IL stints, as did spot starters Houck and Whitlock. It was a total pitcher- IL cluster you-know-what.
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I pointed out many were "largely unknown." I think that answers your question. BTW, Houck was "in the organization" before DD left. He was "largely unknown," but he was here..
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The weird thing is, if you take everyone Bloom added, even JBJ and Diekman, to me, it looks like an overall plus on additions (Schreiber, Refsnyder, Wacha, Hill, Strahm and mid season additions like McGuire,) but we got worse.
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I meant the group of prospects he held onto have turned out better than those he traded combined. Many of the prospects he held onto were largely unknown 3-5 years ago or drafted/IFA signed by DD, himself. The significant players traded: Moncada Kopech Margot Espinal Beeks The ones he kept or acquired and kept: Devers Houck Casas Bello Crawford Mata Rafaela Perales Paulino Walter Wikelman Murphy (Duran, Dhern
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I don't think the word "decimate" is appropriate, when he held onto Devers and a few others that are now looking better than Moncada, Kopech, Margot and others, but no doubt, the farm was weak and got weaker.
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That's kind of my point. If the mets (or Dodgers) decide they will grossly overpay for the most glitzy FA signing in over a decade, the Yanks will be forced to be outlandish, themselves, or go to plan B.
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Even if it's $405M/9? I hope you guys do that.
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I'd add Rafaela, Mata and Walter. We are much deeper and stronger than 3 years ago. 5 years ago, too.
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I figured that was all under "team leadership."
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Sucked when it counted most.
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Not getting any meaning ful farm help since Devers is very telling and certainly is part of the reason we are where we are, today. Interestingly, the biggest farm help we got was supplied by the Yankee farm and Bloom's choice to pick Whitlock in the Rule 5 draft. IMO, the next best guy who was called up to the Sox and was a plus is Houck. Yes, Moncada, Margot, Kopech and a couple other traded prospects are better than some of who we have, now, but still: our farm has basically sucked. This year's late additions, namely Casas and Bello, and some promising prospects knocking on the 2023 door hint at the tide changing, but Devers was called up in 2017. That's a pretty long time with no real boosts beyond what DD got through trades plus Houck.
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An up and down season with mostly downs.
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The waiting is the hardest part. - Tom Petty
