moonslav59

At #24, it's hardly worth speculating who we might get.

Story. I know you never said it's all on Cora. The Rays have a ton of guys hurt, too. This sucks for all of us.

Yes, every bonehead play is Cora's fault. No doubt, we have seen some lack of focus, and yes, the manager is where the buck stops, but the players have to take some responsibility, too. The revolving IL door might be a distraction, too. It's like a AAA team, right now.

Where are the player leaders? Maybe some have tried, but it's not working. You know, it's not easy winning when 4 of your starting rotation are injured. Getting pumped up only can bring you so far.

Mayer hit his 8th dinger. (2-3 w BB) Ward looked good: 3 IP 0 H 0 BB 4K Kavadas upped his OPS to 1.286. Gotta think he's in Salem after the ASB.

1. It's not happening. 2. If the idea is even considered, he has to pitch a few decent games to bring back decent value. 3. I'm not even sure we'd look to trade Hill, unless Wink gives us 3 more decent starts by the deadline, and Nate & Wacha look healthy.

It's hard to stay optimistic in times like these. We need to get our horses back in the barn.

What am I missing? Why not just use Snell where you'd use Milone? Are the contending Padres really looking to cut salary and get worse?

He was not fragile. Being on an innings limit is not the same as fragile. The idea is to increase innings each year. This is like saying Sale should never start, again.

Kevin Cash might be on the short list. They just passed us, and I think they have their top 5 pen guys injured, plus others.

Yes, the hypothetical was where does Story play, SS or 2B, if the plan is to start Downs, next season. (Not likely, but just trying to get a feel for how strongly people feel about leaving Story at 2B, next year, assuming Bogey does not return.

Quite often the guy you most recently added to the 40, is the first to go. Some never even play a game. Yes, Ort did well at Woo, but so have many pitchers- some have not looked as good, but with much larger ML sample sizes. I could be wrong, but I really don't think Brasier is in the top 2-3 on Bloom's DFA list. We may not find out, soon, since others with options will be demoted, first, in all likelihood.

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but I was fully on board with Whitlock starting (and Houck closing.) While the Sox went 5-4 in Whitlock's 9 starts, about par with the team's winning %, he had some games where the pen messed up a good start, or the bats were silent. (All of our starters have faced these problems, too.) The 4 losses... 4 IP 1H 0ER 0 BB 7K (We lost 3-2 @ TBR) 3 IP 4H 0ER 2BB 2K (Lost 1-0 @ TOR) 5 IP 2H 2ER 0BB 9K (Lost 10-5 v LAA) 6 IP 5H 2ER 1BB 4K (Lost 12-8 v BAL) In all fairness, he did have one start where he let up 5ER in 4 IP (10 hits) and we won 6-5, but with some luck, we could easily have been 8-1 in his 9 starts.

For sure? Because of 2 IP?

We'd b e adding more to the package to offset the negative values of B & D. The Padres would still save money, but yes, they would probably like to save as much as possible. BTV accepted: Barnes & Diekman for Hosmer, Campusano & Snell The Padres would save over $50M.

If you had to DFA Diekman or Brasier, today, who would you choose? How do Ort and Valdez fall on your first to be DFA'd chart? Anyone else high on your list? (Not the list you think Bloom has, but your list.)

Myers is refuse, too.

One man gathers what another man spills.

Don't we want pitchers to be mean SOBs and not "cool dudes?"

How do these numbers stack up to Diekman?

For argument's sake, let's say the plan is Downs. Who plays SS?

Losing Devers scares the hell out of me! He's a unique talent. There is no "book on him." He's just entering peak prime, now. He's a Yankee killer. (I know that's your soft spot.) Instead of $290M/10, just go $300M/11.

True dat. He's been astounding on defense. I still wonder about where he plays, next year: SS or 2B.

Yes, and what I think some eye test posters might think is that stat geeks don't watch or enjoy watching the game like they do. Like numbers are swirling around our head during the game, that blind us to what we see on the field. Another thing I feel they may get wrong is that they think we see a stat or metric and then watch a game trying to confirm it is true. On this point, I'd like to add how I often use stats and metrics. Many times, I observe a certain trend or aspect of a player and form an opinion, then I look to see if the stats back up my opinion and or compare how said player compares to others in the area I formed an opinion. One example was when Ellsbury came up. I originally thought he was a plus defender, but when I looked at his numbers it showed otherwise. Instead of just believing the stats, I started watching him more closely. Now, some might think I was then letting the stats bias my observations, but I don't think I did. I had been arguing with other posters that he was a plus defender. I'd have to admit I was wrong, which I ended up doing after watching more closely over time. The further aspect of this example was that eventually, Ellsbury did become a plus defender over the year, and my observations and the stats/metrics showed he did. I'm not sure why BA has so much more pull than SLG or OBP, for some. Sure, a single is worth more than a walk, but clearly a 2B, 3B, and HR are worth more than a single or walk, right? Then, the whole rbi thing. It's been beaten to death, so I'll let that one go, except to say that it seems to me, and I may be wrong, that some posters who use rbi way more than others, also want us to re-sign Bogey way more than others. I guess we all have our contradictions- stat geeks and non stat geeks.

Snell has so much upside, I'd give more than that for him, especially if they took Barnes and Diekman.