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No fan is a bigger cheerleader for bringing Devers back than me, but if they create a longer, more consistent method of building a winner without mega deals, and it works, I won't complain. It does seem like a more sustainable plan, but yes, Henry should not keep jumping ship on methods, although it has always ended up turning into a ring.

Our farm has improved greatly, in part because several DD additions have risen farther than many of us expected, but nobody is saying the farm is where we think it needs to be, right now. Most of us know building a farm is not easy and takes time- usually a lot of time to do it right. We are not at the point where we can expect 2-3 significant farm additions every season. One expected to reach the bigs, this year (Casas) got hurt right at the wrong time. Blowing up the farm to make a run for it this year seems to still be a pipe dream for a poster or two, but I think the rest of us realize a strong and deep farm is needed to sustain winning year after year. Even the Dodgers, who outspend everyone, always has a strong farm. Look at the Astros- same thing with the fram, not so much on big spending. I'm not going to blame injuries. Other teams were hurt more than us, when we were winning, so maybe we were just due, but the fact is, half our team are AAA players filling in for injured players over this recent horrific stretch. Couple that with playing top competition was just too much for this team. It seems blaming someone is the way of the land, so it's not unexpected to see the blame game is full force, these days. I guess, if it helps people deal with the frustration and move on, then that's the way it goes. I don't blame Henry for easing up on spending from time to time. Overall, he keeps our budget top 5 or 6, every year. Does he make mistakes in hirings? Maybe, but each GM hire has led to a ring, not counting Bloom, who is still here and trying to get us there. I don't blame Bloom, because I look at the context of the team/farm and budget limits he was handed. Has he made mistakes? Certainly. All GMs do. Has he done what his main priority had to have been: to build up the farm and roster depth to a point where we can compete? I'd say yes, despite this recent blip and the 10 & 20 start to the season. I'm fine with others disagreeing, and they have some strong points. I might oversimplify his time here as overachieving in '21 and underachieving in '22 while working a budget that includes $29M for Sale and $16M for Price, not to mention significant rbi drop offs by $22M JD and $20M Bogey and a decline from $17M Eovaldi. $24M Story is on him, but let's not pretend he built this budget or set his own limits. I don't blame Cora, because I think he knows his s*** and has shown an ability to get the most out of some mediocre rosters. He was king in 2018, but he's had challenges, since then. I think he was a big part of the rise in 2021, but he makes mistakes, too. This year's roster looked pretty close to '21's, and somehow we have fallen flat and lost our fundamentals. That is traditionally a manager's "blame area," so I don't think it's unfair to be critical of him, this year. I just don't "blame him." I don't like singling out individual players on any team I root for. Of course, I get upset when a few fail, too often, or play like dopes, but it seems like a confluence of bad seasons has come upon us. Too many players have not lived up to expectations, all at once. I'm not going to name names, but certainly we can all point to a few guys as having let the team down, this year. I guess, if I have to blame, I'd spread it around nearly evenly.

Greedy bastards. We shoulda had 5-6 rings, not 4. Fire Henry!!! Ok, ok, I'm really going to bed, now.

Lowe Pedro Damon Manny Ellsbury Lester Betts It's amazing how the Sox lost every single fan after these guys walked but were able to rebuild a new fanbase, everytime. Too bad Bogey we can't do it after Bogey walks.

Ok, I misread your implication. BTW, it's not the first or only time Henry put the brakes on spending- sometimes for 2-3 year spurts.

One listen to "Why Can't We Be Friends," and you'll be a convert.

I think I've done enough damage for the night. Time for bed. I'll make way for the Stork and other trolls, who love to prey on miserable fans.

I do have some Snickers.

I really liked Nava and Workman!

Somebody else coined that phrase, but I thought it was fitting for the moment. Man, we lost so many fans when we let him walk.

Truer words have never been written. No doubt. Sometimes, I chuckle at these threads. Sometime, I take them more seriously than anyone should. I'm actually looking forward to the deadline and 2023. How nutty is that? Maybe, tomorrow, I'll regret thinking that.

Good? https://bosoxinjection.com/2020/05/24/red-sox-controversial-figures-tom-yawkey/

Yes! When I'm done, our 40 man roster sits at 17. We won't get jack for Ref and Schreib. Keep 'em and hope their our next Daniel Nava and Brandon Workman. Sell high? What? 3 bags of balls not 1?

The downfall started when we let Tacoby Bellsbury walk. Man, he was the face of the Taco Bell franchise!

Aren't game threads during and after a loss so wonderful?

Proof of what? Henry is a liar? Bloom chose not to spend all on his own?

Yes, then Bogey can lead them all to a ring- just like Jeter!

Where am I giving Bloom a pass, in the past few days? Answer the point I made. If Bogey is the leader of the team and the face of the franchise, why are we in last place? Why pay him what he wants, which is surely an overpay? (I should have left you on ignore.)

9 Players on the block. Take the top offers, no matter what. Bogey JD Nate Vaz Wacha Hill Strahm Kike Plawecki While we are at it, trade anyone not viewed as being a plus for 2023 and or beyond, or have little hope being a plus going forward, like most or all of these guys or DFA, soon, or make sure they are not on next year's 40: Diekman Arroyo Brasier Dalbec Cordero DHern Might as well keep these guys, in hopes for miracles and the idea that we might as well pay these guys here rather than on another team, for a while anyway: Story Sale Barnes Taylor Verdugo or Duran (not both) Davis Paxton Sawamura The keepers currently on the 40: Devers Whitlock Houck Pivetta Schreiber Refsnyder Might as well keep the kids on the 40, now: Mata Wink Crawford Bello Seabold Groome & Danish Wong & RHern Meh: Downs, Ort, Sanchez & J Davis

Signings... http://news.soxprospects.com/2022/07/minor-notes-first-draft-signings.html

What drugs makes you want to not just keep but overpay the face of a crappy franchise?

Bye-bye Bogey. Bye-bye half the team.

I'm going to say it, because I think it has to be said. Fine, bash away at Bloom and Cora for our last place position. Blame them for not keeping Bogey, JD or whoever. It's one of the main reasons you are not Bloom/Cora fans. Aren't you so glad we have leaders like Bogey and JD to show this current team just how to win. I don't know where we'd be without the face of the franchise. Okay, pile on. I'm a troll.

Expand it further: "but the Sox don't think he's worth what he wants."