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Good discussion on link...
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Another
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There is more discussion around who should have been protected a few pages back from page 1.
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The "rushed" part I was referring to was making him play 3B after just 10 games at 3B in AAA and over his whole career.
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IMO, we should have protected Ward, but I do think they knew more about him that I do, so I'll wait before calling it a screw up. I surely would have protected Ward and Politi over Song, knowing what I knew then.
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All we really need is a fun GM.
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I don't think he's all that good. I just don't think he sucks, and I realize the impossible situation he was handed.
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What is not unique is the general sense that no GMs take players who are not ML or near ML ready. In no sense, was Song either. He is so far away from ML ready that guys like Wikelman and Paulino, as well as actual considered players like Wallace, Scott and Koss (AAA type players) looked like better "traditional" choices, last December.
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Just don't say you "hate Bloom," right?
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I was responding to a more general statement made by a certain poster: Losing any young pitchers of promise is inept for a last place team with last place pitching and a front office constantly telling its fans "Wait til next core..."
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So, we are even inept at being inept!
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Had we added Gibson, we'd have swept.
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2003: We were a Schilling short in change. 2021: We were Scherzer as hell an ace away from a ring.
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Maybe add 2003 or even 2021.
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You must have hated trading 24 year old Jacob Wallace for 28 year old Wyatt Mills. Too bad we traded Pavano & Armas for Pedro, Fossum, de la Rosa and Lyon for Schilling and Kopech for Sale.
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Certainly, Bloom may never make such a deal. I'm not sure we can believe anything any Sox rep says, but Bloom did say this, this winter... "I actually think the trade market could be a really good route to adding impact to our club... We are looking (into) a lot of significant moves there as long as we can do it in a way that isn’t just robbing Peter to pay Paul, that’s actually moving us forward in 2023 and giving us a chance to make a significant step forward from where we sit today.”
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...and inflation. I'm fine with the direction of signing multiple moderate contracts over Price-like ones. I don't think we acquire our next ace via free agency. Like Pedro, Schilling, Beckett, Sale and to some extent Porcello and Eovaldi, I think we will trade for him, and hopefully extend him.
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How many situations like this will there be, again? It is very unique that a player is ineligible to play for 3 years and his eligibility date unknown on protection day. I doubt any GM would protect the next Noah Song, if something very similar comes up again.
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I'm pretty sure the answers are never and never, yet somehow, we were supposed to predict it would happen, this year
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Actually, Bleis was not Rule 5 eligible. I just used him and his skill level as an example of some types of players that are often left unprotected, since they are single A players. This year's examples might have been: #11 Paulino #12 Wikelman
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Are you being serious? because it seems like you are all over both ends of this debate. You think it would have been "smart" to protect Song? I'm pretty sure you'd be saying differently had they done it, and he not be selected. Thinking some off-the-wall GM move was going to happen is not "smart." Do you think he should have protected Wikelman? Paulino? Selecting them made more sense by some GM. How many far away players can a team stash on its 40?
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It's one of his "brightest spots," because the other spots are shady or in the dark. I'd say the Diekman dump was a good one. I think the Vaz trade will work out. Robles did pretty well for us. Iggy & Shaw were not technically "deadline deals," but both worked out well. Bloom's area grades: A Rule 5 B Draft, IFA signings & Deadline deals (not including deals not made) C Economical Free Agents D High end FAs & Winter trades F Deadline/in-season deals not made, Negotiations with homies
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It was bigger than some thought would ever happen. It was the 4th largest FA signing is Red Sox history and $2.1M from being the 3rd largest.
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The plan was to wait until he became eligible, then assign him to a minor league team and decide to protect him or not that following winter- an excellent plan that any GM, except maybe DD would have done. No baseball pundit suggested protecting Song, but somehow that should have been "the plan?"
