moonslav59

I keep wondering why one of the 60 SSs we've drafted can't play 3B.

Nothing some ice couldn't take care of.

Okay. I guess I'm making it all up about you hardly showing your face, when we win, then make dozens of posts right after a loss, a losing streak or a trade of Kike.

You make no sense. When you blame Bloom for having devers and Casas on th roster, when they are both DD guys, I know about that. I don't see it as defending Bloom to point out they have nothing to do with Bloom. I see it as correcting a misconception you have and you propensity to blame Bloom for everything, even things beyong his control or mostly out of his control. I thought it was Bloom's fault for going over the tax line all along and blamed him for it, until someone mentioned, someone else claimed responsibility for the mistake, so now I am not sure. I'm fully ready to blame Bloom, if he was the one at fault. I can't find a story on Google, so I'm fine with bashing Bloom on that mistake, for now.

So, you do think Bloom doesn't care how many prospects we have? If yes, it's not an interpretation. It's a wrong position. Totally wrong.

Not sure what this has to do with my post. BTW, we did spend a lot, this past winter and added salary at the deadline. I did expect we'd get closer, but the botched tax line issue last year, which apparently was not Bloom's doing, but who knows, really didn't matter, because we stayed under, this year and were not going over, even if we stayed under, last year. IMO. I bring up the amount we "can spend" to highlight what we could do or could have done. I'm not sure if it's Bloom's choice to leave a few million on the table or his higher ups. I expect it's not Bloom's call on what the budget is. BTW, I was for a major sell-off- even getting Bogey to agree to waive his no trade, if possible. I'm just not going to blame Bloom for something I don't know was his doing, unlike you and others. If I found out, he talked JH and others into not selling, I'd be roasting him like you do.

I'm fine talking about Raffy and Casas and their issues with defense. I just was curious why you blame Bloom for them. You went out of your way to say it was his fault. It's you who is "all about blaming Bloom." If you stop blaming him for things out of his control, you'd hardly hear a peep from me about "blaming Bloom." I blame him for plenty. Things he's actually responsible for doing.

When you and others keep naming Bloom when talking about DD players, it raises a flag. I am with you and others on many of his mistakes and blunders that actually relate to him.

You take one quote and think that is all of his opinion. Plus, you take his quote out of context, as always. "We're in a good place, but at the end of the day, the place that we like is to play in October. It's not about how many prospects you have or where your farm system is. It might be No. 1 or 30th or whatever. The one that really counts is how many games you win in October and how many games you play in October. That's what we're shooting for." Yes, when you are playing in October, it doesn't matter where you rank or how many prospects you have. That does not imply that the number of prospects or the farm ranking does not matter. It doesn't even come close to implying that, unless you have faulty reasoning and comprehension skills. Obviously, Cora thought this year's team was good enough to warrant making some deadline deals to get us to October, but to suggest he thinks it doesn't matter how many prospects we have, is total BS. I can find more quotes like this.... “At one point, (Bryan Mata) is gonna be part of this and he’s gonna help us to win a few games," Cora told MassLive's Chris Cotillo. Sounds like he doesn't care about how many we have and wanted to trade Mata, right? That's about how your reasoning sounds to me.

All of this is clear to me, although I would word some parts differently. It doesn't change my opinion that playing it halfway loses the hear and now crowd and the futures crowd. I get why they do it. Unlike Red and others, I don't blame Bloom for JH setting the priorities in such a way that playing it halfway is about all Bloom can do. They can wish away that JH should spend more money and make the "live in the moment" crowd happy, but it's clear he is not doing that. They can wish we get a new owner all they want, but I'm still thrilled he is our owner. I happen to think we will reach the higher ground, someday, but I guess patience is not a virtue, anymore. I know nothing is a certainty, but building the farm up is a good start to helping make the odds better we get there. Until the management group decides to spend like they want to win t all, I'm sticking to the idea of building the farm up is better than this halfway crap. I'm not trying to convince anyone to feel like I do. I fully understand how and why most want their pleasures now.

Yes, that's my point. You blame Bloom for playing inherited players who are better than anyone else, but were not for trading them. You don't see the point being made?

Like I keep saying, Cora needs to rest these guys more often.

Yes, indeed, but not from you. You wait in the shadows.

I remember most questioning the signing and the high price tag. A few said it looked like a good signing. Revisionist history on display, again. Here is the first page of the Yoshida thread. Totally full of "giddiness."

He never said the farm did not matter. Your summarization of what he said is not his whole position. I get it. He said something you agreed with, and as you always say when you find such a quote, "He knows more than we do."

Yes, maybe. We happen to be discussing him at his lowest point of the season, not counting the first week or two.

I just responded to your blaming Bloom for 3 guys when 2 were inherited. I never heard you saying we should trade Devers and Casas. The rest of the team is another issue, but moving the goalpost is what you like to do. BTW, I love the Martin, Jansen, Turner and like the Duvall, Yoshida and Urais additions. You don't? I hate the Kluber and Mondesi additions. On the D, the Story signing helped the D, but he got hurt. It also forced a good defensive CF'er to play SS. He added Mondesi, Chang, Reyes and Urias- all good defenders. He added Duval and Dugo- our two best defensive OF'er. Yes, he added Yoshida, a bad defender in LF, which is an easily hideable slot, with the idea he would DH after Turner left. He inherited Devers, Casas, Duran, Dalbec and other poor defenders. Your point, now is that he should have traded or not extended them?

What does that have to do with Bloom? You keep blaming the wrong person, and no that does not mean I think the Bloom awesome thing is great.

You really think Cora thinks how many good prospects doesn't matter?

Most were "giddy" over Yoshida? LOL. Casas is still a huge plus- just not on D at 1B, right now. Raffy has yet to play 1 year of his extension. Judging too soon, right?

I didn't choose 2 DD players to blame Bloom for. You did.

A month ago, it looked a lot better. Maybe a month from now, the needle will move back to the plus side.

You are misrepresenting Cora's view. Yes, he said the playoffs and making them is the top priority, but making them can be achieved several ways. I get the argument about wanting to win now, but if the owner is not allowing you to spend enough to win, whay play it half way? Go for the future 100%. That's my opinion, and a minority one, for sure. BTW, every time, except maybe 2004, we won a ring, it was due in large part to homegrown players. 2018 was largely about them and trading others. I don't blame Cora for being unhappy or wishing we made more deadline deals as buyers. His job is to win, now. Bloom's job is more complex and is largely driven by what the ownership group sets as the top priorities.

I don't get this. 1Bmen are often paid big bucks- even more than 1Bmen. History: (probably not a complete list) 1B 248/8 Miggy (2016>) 240/10 Pujols (2012>) 225/10 Votto (2014>) 214/9 Fielder (2012>) 162/6 Freeman (2022>) 152/8 Miggy (2008>) 130/5 Goldschmidt (2020>) 3B 260/8 Arenado (2019>) 245/7 Rendon (2020>) 212/10 Riley (2023>) 141/7 J Ramirez (ext 2022>)

Maldanado was being overused and needed rest. I think Abreu and EValdez were not ranked top 8 in their system, when traded, but I'm not sure. I think Abreu was 8th and Valdez 11th. I liked the trade, then and even more now. When combined with us getting McGuire for a salary dump pitcher, the two moves combined, gave us better catching going forward and 2 prospects with legit chances. Win-Loss.