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Is Cohen waiting in the wings to offer $5M more than the top offer between SFG & BOS? Does this mean NYY are out?

I wonder why there is nothing on MLBTR about this.

MLBTR reports the LAD are interested in just about every pitcher, "except Snell." This make me like Monty>Snell even more, now.

MLB Pipeline's Mock Draft 2024: 1. Nick Kurtz 1B CLE 2. JJ Wetherholt SS/2B CIN 3. Charlie Condon OF/1B COL 4. Jac Caglianone 1B/LHP OAK 5. Travis Bazzana 2B CWS 6. Vance Honeycutt OF KCR 7. Josh Hartle LHP STL 8. Seaver King OF/SS LAA 9. Konnor Griffin OF PIT (first HS player listed) 10. Tommy White 3B WSH 11. Mike Sirota OF DET 12. Hagen Smith LHP BOS (Arkansas) 13. Chase Burnes RHP SFG 14. Brody Brecht RHP CHC 15. Braden Montgomery OF/RHP SEA Mydraft.com has Chase Burns going #3 and the Sox getting Noah Franco 1B/LHP IMG Academy (CA) Another site has us taking Carter Johnson SS (Oxford HS, AL)

Certainly, Cohen seems more motivated to build a winner than JH, but if you look at the team foundations and near ML ready prospects, I think the Sox might look better than the Mets, right now. I'm no expert on the Mets farm, but I think ours looks better. 2024 ZiPs: 11.2 BOS (2.6 Bello, 2.2 Sale, 2.1 Pivetta, 1.8 Crawford, 1.5 Houck, 1.0 others) 10.9 NYM (3.9 Senga, 1.9 Quintana, 1.3 Megill, 1.2 Peterson, 1.0 Lucchesi, 1.6 others) 4.1 BOS Pen: Mets 2.8 1.5 BOS C: Mets 2.8 2.4 BOS 1B: Mets 3.2 2.0 BOS 2B: Mets 21.7 3.4 BOS SS: Mets 5.0 3.6 BOS 3B: Mets 1.9 1.9 BOS LF: Mets 0.5 1.9 BOS CF (no O'Neill): Mets 4.2 2.3 BOS RF (w Dugo): Mets 1.7 2.4 BOS DH: NYM 2.0 Totals before winter additions: Pitching: 15.3 BOS 13.7 NYM Positions: 23.4 NYM 21.4 BOS Total: 37.1 NYM 36.7 BOS I'm not sure how much having Yoshida matters, but it likely does not hurt our chances.

They must like him more than Imanaga, although they may sign him, too.

I was thinking the same thing. One more "We came so close!" I'm not falling for it, again. We better get some real quality talent, somehow, of I'll be riding the Sham Wagon for another year, at least.

He did mention stepping back, but at age 25, Yamo will be around for when he decides to pounce, again. (Not that $350 for Yamo is less than a pounce.) I do think he has an upper limit and plan B, though.

You think it gets to $340-350M? I doubt the Sox go that far. They could probably get Monty and Imanaga (maybe even a 2Bman, too) for the same money, but not AAV.

That butterfly flapped its wings, so long ago.

Soxprospects says: for JBay 36. Brentz 57. Workman for Wagner 20, Vitek 39. Ranaudo

I hope Yamamoto did not want the secrecy Ohtani demanded, and some fool on the Sox leaked the offer amount. As far as I know, no other team released an offer amount.

So, reports out that we offered Yamo $300M. I think that makes us a top 3 choice.

I wonder, if it's a "final offer."

We were lucky to dump CC, but we had to give up AGon & Beckett to do it. Not like losing Betts with Price, but still...

That did not end well, but the beginning and middle more than made up for the end. Plus, we got JBay for one year. We then got Workman with JBay's comp pick and Pivetta in a trade for Workman. We are still seeing results from that trade, today!

B-R shows he made $507K in his final year in STL.

Who is left (of Sox interest)? Tier 1: Yamamoto Trade candidates Tier 2: Snell Monty Kershaw to LAD or retire?) Trade candidates Tier 3: Imanaga (Tier 2?) -hopefully as our second best SP added Stroman - hopefully as our second best pitcher added. (Imanaga + Stroman might work, but I'd be bummed.) Giolito Clevinger Ryu Duvall (OF) Gurriel (OF) Garver (C/DH) Tier 4: Montas- acceptable, only if Yamo is our first SP signing Paxton - acceptable, only if Yamo is our first SP signing Merrifield (2B) A Rosario (SS/2B) Manaea Lorenzen Turner (DH/1B)

I think Lugo, Wacha and maybe ERod were sort of fall-back options. It's still concerning they are off the boards, if and when we end up missing out on Yamo, Snell and Monty. Maybe we have always viewed Imanaga (or Stroman) as out top fall-back guy, so the plan B is still alive. I'm very concerned, too, bell.

Yes, and he was his own agent. He was underpaid for many years.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I am, too. I'm actually expecting us to miss out on Yamo and Monty, and maybe Imanaga, too. I think our chances are better than you and others seem to think, but my hopes are not based in any facts, except maybe these... We did just extend Devers to the 12th biggest contract in MLB history. We apparently blew everybody away on a guy we have always wanted: Yoshida. The Story signing was not really chump change. We did offer Eflin the same as anyone else. We did offer Nate more than Texas, but bumbled that by spending elsewhere, before he came back to jus, hat in hand. BTW, it appears Nate wanted to play for the "losing" team, and if anyone knew the Sox, it was him. I know, using examples of where we botched things up seems counter to my point, but if it's about the money, there are 5 examples since March 2022, where we have show we are moving away from the period that began after the extensions to Bogey & Sale and Nate trade & extension- Spring '19 to Spring '22. That was a three year stretch of a near total reluctance to spend big. I'm hoping things have changed and we continue to make some serious investments in our 26 man roster, but again, I'll believe it when I see it.

Many of the exceptions extend with their teams at discount rates, before they reach free agency, and we don't count them. Bogey did. Pedey did. Ortiz did it several times.

Possibly counter-offers. I'm pretty sure some teams said, please come back to us, before you sign with someone else. That being said, I think he signs by Monday night.

They may want to, but they almost always take the highest offer, unless it's real close.

If the big committee has decided we will "spend what it takes" to get Yamo or Monty, does it matter how the choice was made? If not, Jad is right- "Meet the new boss..."