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  1. moonslav59
    Of course other injuries are always possible for any player. I think the contract was low for a healthy Chris Sale. I did not choose the term “baked in,” but they factored in some missed time or lower than expected performance. A healthy Sale was worth much more than $145/5, IMO. Word it how you wish.
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    “Big signing” is subjective, too. Some think there are 5 big SPs to sign- others 6-7. There are also some big non pitchers to sign. So maybe 10-12 total?
  3. moonslav59
    How many full throttle teams are there? 6-7?
  4. moonslav59
    Agreed. I would not be surprised at all. It would not shock me, if we miss out on all second tier pitchers, as well. Something like Seth Lugo and Jack Flaherty seems like far too high of a chance.
  5. moonslav59
    It seems he has missed more time for non arm related injuries, but I could be wrong on that.
  6. moonslav59
    Story still has4 years left, but he has his work cut out for him. 2 years in… 137 games .685 OPS Great D Not good, at all. Sale could go 24-4 in ‘24 and the deal would still be a bad one.
  7. moonslav59
    In todays dollars $145/3 for Cy Young Sale is close, but I disagree on 2 full years of recovery, unless the surgery was on April 1st, maybe.
  8. moonslav59
    It very well might. My guess would be we get none, if it does.
  9. moonslav59
    If Sale was Chis Freakin’ Sale, $145M/4 would have been an acceptable deal. Instead, we got freakin’ Chis Sale.
  10. moonslav59
    I think all teams know the risk. They will move on to someone else, if the bidding gets too crazy. There are a lot of good options, this winter.
  11. moonslav59
    Maybe we ruin all our good pitchers by making them pitch in AAA.
  12. moonslav59
    No. I got your point from the start. It has nothing to do with enthusiasm. We disagreed and still do. It does not change the fact that the Bogey extension was a good deal for the Sox. $20M x 3 did not keep us from signing Betts, and even if it did, the Sale contract did by more. (I was one of the few who liked the Sale contract, then, so I'm not going to flip and cry about it, now.) The Nate contract plus what we offered Betts would have gotten it done, too. Where does it stop? Every deal sucked, because it wasn't Betts? Not agreeing with your point does not mean I am overlooking it. One can think we should have signed Betts first, but still think the Bogey deal was great. If I had to choose one deal to give up to keep Betts, the Bogey one might be last.
  13. moonslav59
    Snell & ERod to the Sox. Not bad, but not my faves. I'd rather have Gray & Monty.
  14. moonslav59
    They should have extended Betts before Sale, Bogey and Nate. To me, Bogey was #2 with Nate close behind. We ended up with Bogey until his prime years ended. It was a great deal for the team. Sale, Nate, JD and others have nothing to do with the judging of the deal. 11.9 fWAR in 3 years, including the 40% season of 2020 for $60M - minus the 2020 pro-ration. Great deal. To say you "don't think it was bad" is not what I would call it.
  15. moonslav59
    If I had to predict: Ohtani to SFG Yamamoto to NYM Nola to PHI Snell to NYY Kershaw to LAD Bauer to TOR Gray to BAL Montgomery to BOS ERod to CHC Imanaga to SEA Lugo or Flaherty to Sox Am I leaving out a big spender? (Feels like I am.)
  16. moonslav59
    The Sale deal does not make the Bogey deal look any worse. It makes it look better. I've already said I wish we signed Bogey for more and longer with no opt out, but we got an All Star SS for $20M x 3. There is no way that is a bad deal or even just a decent one. It was great. Sure, I'd rather have given Sale's money to Bogey and Betts, but the Bogey deal was a great one for us.
  17. moonslav59
    $55M/2 or $75M/3 minimum.
  18. moonslav59
    Yes, my bad. Bogey was going to be a FA after the 2019 season. How is getting Bogey at $20M x 3 a bad contract? Just because we wish it was longer and with no opt out doesn't make it a bad deal.
  19. moonslav59
    Bauer will e signed and for big money.
  20. moonslav59
    On Bogey... I did not say other deals were worse or better. The Bogey extension at $20M a year that gave us another year of control was a steal. Yes, I wish there was no opt out and it was for $22M a year x 6, but the one we signed him to was a great one.
  21. moonslav59
    Yes, JD was a huge success. The fact that by year 5, we were ready to move on does not change his record. He was hardly ever hurt. That alone if a big plus for a Sox player. 5 years: 637 games out of 708. .889 OPS (135 OPS+) 650 PA line: .292 32 105 .526 SLG- 13th in MLB from '18-'22 13th best OPS 19th best wRC+ 31st ISO Man, you guys are tough! .363 OBP- 27th in MLB '18-'22
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    Certainly possible.
  23. moonslav59
    Some of the earlier trades/signings in 2022: 11/15 Rizzo NYY Martin Perez TEX Joc Peterson SFG 11/16 Teoscar traded to SEA 11/23 Joely Rodriguez BOS 12/2 Kolten Wong traded to SEA 12/4 Clevinger signed by CWS 12/5 Kershaw LAD Gibson BAL 12/6 Haniger SFG 12/7 Heywood LAD Verlander NYM 12/8 Martin BOS T Turner PHI 12/9 Bogey SDP W Contreras STL Heaney TEX Robertson NYM Strahm PHI 12/10 Nimmo NYM
  24. moonslav59
    I said a top two tier SP, not two top tier pitchers.
  25. moonslav59
    All three of those opt out contracts worked out well for the Sox. JD was a huge success. We got another year of control for Bogey at $20M- a steal. JT was worth the contract + buyout. The one that did not work out too well was Price.
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