Maxbialystock

Twelve years ago, same month, the Yankees came to town and destroyed the Sox pitching while sweeping a 4 game series that basically destroyed that season. Time for some payback. It was Beckett's first season in Boston and I think his ERA was around 5. But he was a whole lot better in 2007. Two very nicely pitched games by Porcello and Eovoldi, but the Yankees are missing Judge and Sanchez (also known as "Charlie Shuffle").

Time to put a foot on the throat. Still a little unreal that in the last series at Yankee Stadium Sabathia and Severino were in complete control. The world turned upside down.

Two astonishing games back to back. Wow. Porcello was just unreal. Yes, a few got hit hard, but overall he was unbelievably on his game. So much so this was the best game pitched by any Sox starter this year, and I am including all of Sale's starts in that comparison. Everything was working. Agree with Cora about what happened in the 1st. To me there was no equivalency between Gardner's HBP--it was obvious to me he wanted to get hit in the shoulder and thereby get on base--his only time all night on base--and Severino going for Mookie's head. Huge difference between those two pitches. Then tossing Cora was ridiculous. Poor baby. Poor defenseless umpire having to hear harsh words. Had I been on his ump team, I would have immediately run over to protect him from that vicious manager with his unseemly language. I don't know that the heck Cora is doing, but these guys are playing out of their minds. Was that Mookie playing errorless ball at 2B? Are the Sox stealing that subpar Yankee catcher blind (or is it the Yankees pitchers)?

Betts RF Beni LF Pearce 1B JDM DH Kinsler 2B Nunez 3B Holt SS Leon C JBJ CF Swihart on DL. Moreland still hurt. Ditto Bogaerts.

Hey, guys. Good comments at the start of a game thread. What I like about tonight's matchup is it's unpredictability. Normally, I would simply advise Cora to forfeit the game when he meets with the umps. Severino is that much better than Porcello. Not lately. Who the heck is the backup catcher tonight?

Darn. I was going to say that--that it was a mistake made good. It wasn't just a great slide. He also made the decision to be aggressive and not just get into a rundown.

Who said "you're only as good as your next starting pitcher?" Agree with you that Severino needs to step up and I have absolutely no idea why he suddenly seems almost human.

Better thread than I expected. Agree Workman has been effective. Amazingly, also agree our bullpen just might be as good as or better than the Yankees, especially if you look at the cumulative WAR's of their relievers vs. ours. Last night proves nothing, of course, because it's just one game, and we have had those things happen if not quite as bad. The big question for any bullpen of course is whether they will hold up. It seems so simple just to go out there and pitch just one lousy inning, but in fact it is always fraught with peril because the margins are so small between success and failure. A couple of bad calls by an ump. A nice curve that unfortunately is up in the zone and fat. Ditto Kelly's fastball sometimes. And so on. I like this bullpen as imperfect as it no doubt is. More than that, I like Cora's handling of the pitching staff as a whole. So, yes, I think the bullpen will hold up over the next two months and begone. Not perfect, but good enough.

I am strongly in the Johnson camp for these reasons: 1. He's a lefty with a changeup, which Pom doesn't have. 2. He's all business on the mound, whereas Pom always looks tortured and sometimes simply afraid to make the next pitch. 3. Better control. Just as good a curve. 4. Good at covering 1B on grounders to the right, which Pom is not good at. 5. A lot less salary. In fact, I am appalled that Pom gets $14M. 6. Last year is ancient history. I want to win this year. Plus I didn't like Pom last year either.

I think there were several factors: Curt Flood broke the 'reserve clause;" MLBPA is probably the most powerful union in pro sports; agents, especially Scott Boras, are convincing players they should always shoot for the moon because often they will get it; owners in the big markets can pay big salaries and still make a profit. In his series on Baseball, Ken Burns has someone say that in the old days the average MLB player made 7 times the salary of the average fan. After Curt Flood and as of the making of that series, it was then 7 X 7 times (or 50 times as much as the average fan). Years ago there was a very, very successful basketball coach at Butler. He and his wife Tracy were both from Indiana and were happy raising their kids in Indianapolis--plus she was/is a lawyer. His salary was $1M/year, which was all he needed but well under his probable value at a major program, several of which came calling while he was at Butler. I would have bet he would never leave Butler, but in fact his wife negotiated the contract with the Celtics for six years and $22M. I also would have bet you can't transfer great college coaching skill into success at the NBA level. My guess is that the whole Brad Stevens family is thriving in Boston as I write this. My point, I guess, is that people are unpredictable.

Somewhere around page 3 I gave up completely--except I kept watching. Could not be happier to be so wrong. What an amazing turnaround. Absolutely stunning.

Call is the Boston Orioles and start the rain dance now. We need a game- saving deluge.

We’ve seen this movie about a month ago at Yankee Stadium. Not sure I want to watch a reun.

What's the weather look like? My NOAA shows rain headed toward Boston. Soon.

Thunder this year is the right guy to start this game thread. Yankees are so lucky we are without Sale, ERod, and Wright--and Bogey and Devers. Hopefully, Bogey plays tomorrow or Sat at the latest.

True. But also a nightmare.

It might keep him fresh down the stretch, but Sale is one of those guys who really wants to be out there on the mound. If he is complaining about shoulder pain, it's something to worry about. So I agree with your "hopefully."

Sarcasm? You think?

I disagree frequently with A700hitter on this very topic--in-game decisions by Cora, whom I almost invariably defend. I just think Cora is better informed than we are, simple as that. But A700hitter is only doing what all baseball fans have been doing for decades. And in at least one instance--leaving Wright in to give up 10 runs--I have vehemently disagreed with Cora. And the Sox ended up winning that game.

I've pretty much been anti-Swihart, but have to agree he is showing us he has a pretty darn good skill set. With his speed and athleticism, his hitting well could mean the Sox will want to shift him away from catching on a regular basis. Maybe corner infielder. But his catching has been pretty darn good so far this year.

Nice four win streak by MVP78--just in time.

Hope is not a method. So it is written.

OK? OK? Your standards for Pomeranz need recalibration. For him 2 runs in 5 innings are an unmitigated triumph and cause for wild celebrations lasting well into the early morning. And those four BB's were just smart baseball and helped the Great One avoid those troublesome dingers.

Agree--and I am anti-Pom. The problem was the hitting: 0 for 13 with RISP. I'm pretty sure we twice had leadoff doubles which didn't score. And some hard hit balls that were caught of course.

I didn't like him last year either. No changeup. Can't cover 1B. Takes forever on the mound.