Kimmi
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I vaguely remember the praying mantis. I don't really remember seeing the Judge Judy / donuts moment, though I remember reading about it. I'm sure they were both hilarious.
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I fully endorse the Notin posts on this topic.
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I'm picking ARod without hesitation.
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Perhaps, but not long enough to count.
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The league that I usually play in did their draft right before the season started, even though they knew there would be no baseball for a while. I guess they are all set if baseball does start up.
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One of the funniest things ever. This is why we need Remy and Orsillo.
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There are always outliers or exceptions in data.
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It's no more an anomaly than any moment in any typical game. The so called clutch moments just stand out so much stronger because they occur in huge situations.
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I could agree with that. I have stated before that if we are defining clutch as the ability not to choke, then all MLB players are clutch. Those that aren't either don't make it to that level or don't last very long if they do.
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The players who deliver more in clutch situations are typically the same players who deliver more often in regular situations.
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I have. The data shows that there is no consistency or no statistical correlation with clutch moments.
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While not using that specific term, there are posters here who are implying the ability to raise one's game to another level. I think you and I have agreed that if we are defining 'clutch' as the ability not to choke, then fine, we can say clutch exists. The point is that these so called clutch players aren't really clutch, they're just good. They are just doing what they always do.
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It sounds more like you have had some clutch moments as opposed to being clutch player.
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As I stated in previous posts, I once believed in clutch, etc. It was analytics and statistical studies that changed my mind on those things.
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That very well could be true Bell. This conversation led me to thinking about field goal kickers, and how the opposing team calls time out to try to ice the kicker. How often does that actually work? In my limited football viewing, I don't think it works at all. I wonder if there are stats on FG % when 'iced' versus FG % when not.
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Probably, but there are people who take offense to written text.
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I have been in your very shoes. I have experienced the same feelings that you experienced as an athlete. Now let me say that there are absolutely clutch moments. What doesn't exist are clutch players, players who can raise their game to an otherworldly level in a high pressure situation. As far as fans preferring a certain player in a certain situation, that has nothing to do with whether clutch exists or not. Most fans are reacting off of pure emotion, not any rational thought. That is not meant to insult anybody, but just take a look at our game threads to see what I mean. Price is a good example. Everyone swore up and down that he was a choker. But then suddenly, he wasn't.
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LOL Or unless you're playing in 2020.
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Yes, I did. I have probably played as many sports (both individual and team) as most people on here, and at a pretty competitive level. No, I have never played baseball. But I have played softball, which would contain the same "human element" factors as baseball. Would anyone like to argue otherwise on that? I am sure that I have played as much Major League Baseball as anyone on here. So, the argument that I should listen to those on here that have actually played the game doesn't wash with me.
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Clutch might very well exist in golf. I don't know. I don't follow that sport like I follow baseball. But, I would not be the least bit surprised if analytic studies showed that clutch does not actually exist in golf. Perhaps Tiger isn't really clutch. Perhaps he is just a great golfer. OTOH, the fact that golf is an individual sport might make it more prone to having clutch players. I don't know.
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It is extremely difficult to change another person's strongly held beliefs. That said, for me personally, advanced analytics in baseball changed many of my strongly held beliefs, among them the notion of clutch, line up protection, and a speedy runner on 1st base 'disrupting the defense'. I was shown enough evidence (and not just anecdotal evidence) that very strongly argues against those notions, and it was enough for me to change my opinion. Analytics changed my view of the baseball world, and in a very good way. Needless to say, I love analytics! If someone were to show me strong evidence that clutch does exist (and not just anecdotal evidence) I would rethink my opinion. As for politics, as I said before, that is a debate I will never engage in. For some reason, it is the most enraging topic around. It never ends well, and I have seen that happening in our coronavirus thread, despite Talksox posters usually self-policing very well.
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Has golf entered the world of advanced analytics? I would venture to say that clutch might not exist in golf either.
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And the same argument goes the other way. It will be forever before we get "those that have played the game" to agree with us. What about those that have played the game and are stat geeks? Wouldn't they have the best take on this?
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I am thinking that Mookie is not going to get the type of contract that he was looking for. Perhaps he even goes for a 1 year deal for 2021, then looks for that mega contract after next year.
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We should. I kind of feel bad for the Dodgers. LOL
