FredLynn

The Rays are doing their part...down 7-4

Moreland needed to get Vasquez to third, at least. That is a problem the Sox have had all year: poor situational hitting.

The Big BJ is going to get hammered....he isn't ever going to get better, not this year, not next year...ever. He is a #7 SP at best.

Extremely worried.....hopefully he will pitch his arm off today so we never have to see him again.

Johnson absolutely sucks. Good thing this game doesn't matter.

Getting Ottavino wouldn't change a thing. The SPs still sucked.

Generally its on the players...but in fairness, the 2013 team was not as complete a team as the 2018 team. Last years team won 11 more games and had a better run differential than the 13 team. Last years team also scored more runs and had a better ERA than the 2013 team. And essentially the team we put on the field this year was nearly identical to the 2018 juggernaut, except for the closer. I can't blame DD for the players not doing their jobs this year. I do not recall who left the 2013 team after they won; maybe some of the guys who left caused the first to worst.

The team won 108 games in 2018 and was a juggernaut by any standard. They lost Kimbrel and Kelly out of the pen and while Kelly sucked for much of the year, the loss of Kimbrel hurt. Still....if our SPs performed we would still be a playoff team. They didn't. Thats on THEM, not DD.

I don't see how DD can be blamed for our SPers sucking this year. Yes, he should probably have obtained another RP, but if our SP did their job we would still be in the playoffs. DD assembled a competitive team....which didn't do their job.

He isn't available. He is too busy. I recently bought a Chevy from him at the local dealership.

I haven't seen it called a "sprain" anywhere...only that its inflammation, which could be a myriad of things. There may or may not be a tear. We are not entitled to know (if it IS known) what the cause of the inflammation is. Here are some of the things it COULD be. Obviously some are irrelevant, but this points out the fact that inflammation can be caused not JUST by an UCL tear: Differential Diagnosis of Elbow Pain Based on Anatomic Location Anterior Anterior capsule strain Biceps tendinopathy Gout Intra-articular loose body Osteoarthritis Pronator syndrome Rheumatoid arthritis Lateral Lateral epicondylitis Osteochondral defect Plica Posterolateral rotatory instability Radial tunnel syndrome/posterior interosseous nerve syndrome Medial Cubital tunnel syndrome Medial epicondylitis Ulnar collateral ligament injury Valgus extension overload syndrome Posterior Olecranon bursitis Olecranon stress fracture Osteoarthritis Posterior impingement Triceps tendinopathy The actual diagnosis is less important than how well he will perform once healed. Thats really the bottom line. Will he still have 95+? Will he be able to adapt successfully if he only has 93? Only time will tell.......

So much speculation about how diminished Sale will be when he returns.....while its fun to speculate, Sale is not Tanaka. He may well have a completely different injury, one that responds better to treatment (or worse). I am just going to wait and see what Andrews says in October and then see what his velocity and command look like on opening day, assuming he doesn't need surgery. Its absurd to guess what kind of pitcher he will become at this point.

If he needs surgery based on the evaluation in October he misses next year, same as if he needed surgery after today's evaluation. He still might needs surgery, but delaying it until October won't result in him missing more time than if he had it next week.

No one said he would come back completely healthy next year to the best of my knowledge. I read that he would be re-evaluated in six weeks.

Different players, different situation most likely. We haven't been given the actual diagnosis, nor are we likely to get it. As you know, inflammation is just a symptom, not a diagnosis. Without a diagnosis its impossible to postulate what Sale will look like in the future.

I agree with this assessment. And I do not think that DD is the right guy to rebuild our farm system. I don't think he has ever successfully done that. He is a GM who tends to destroy farm systems in order to win now. Nothing wrong with that, but he is the wrong guy for the job at hand.

If Sale needs TJS its a fire sale this winter to reset. Trade Mookie; he is gone anyway after next year. Get whatever we can for the deadwood. Lose Leon. It will be a long summer but 2021 will be better.

So does just about everyone else in the league. At least the offenses do.

Like DiceK, ERod is afraid to challenge hitters, preferring to nibble nibble nibble. They should just start him off with a 3-2 count. He needs to improve on that because going 5 innings doesn't cut it. If he wants to improve, thats how to do it.

DiceK

That wasn't an easy play.

Fixed

I think I will take your suggestion and ignore it.

Or irrelevant. As long as its not a serious injury that threatens NEXT year, its irrelevant.

Like I said, they should PH Owings.